Why we have a 2nd amendment and must keep it.

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The Battle of Athens, TN.

For those that don't like to read
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And for those that do.

Battle of Athens (1946)

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The Battle of Athens (sometimes called the McMinn County War) was a rebellion led by citizens in Athens and Etowah, Tennessee, United States, against the local government in August 1946. The citizens, including some World War II veterans, accused the local officials of political corruption and voter intimidation. The event is sometimes cited by firearms ownership advocates as an example of the value of the Second Amendment in combating tyranny.[SUP][citation needed][/SUP]
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Background

Citizens of McMinn County had long been concerned about political corruption and possible election fraud.[SUP][1][/SUP] The U.S. Department of Justice had investigated allegations of electoral fraud in 1940, 1942, and 1944, but had not taken action.[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][2][/SUP] The wealthy Cantrell family essentially ruled the county. Paul Cantrell was elected sheriff in the 1936, 1938, and 1940 elections, and was elected to the state senate in 1942 and 1944, while his former deputy, Pat Mansfield, was elected sheriff.[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][2][/SUP] A state law enacted in 1941 had reduced local political opposition by reducing the number of voting precincts from 23 to 12 and reducing the number of justices of the peace from fourteen to seven (including four "Cantrell men").[SUP][1][/SUP] The sheriff and his deputies worked under a fee system whereby they received money for every person they booked, incarcerated, and released; the more arrests, the more money they made.[SUP][1][/SUP] Buses passing through the county were often pulled over and the passengers were randomly ticketed for drunkenness, whether guilty or not.[SUP][1][/SUP]
In the August 1946 election, Paul Cantrell was once again a candidate for sheriff, while Pat Mansfield sought the state senate seat.[SUP][1][/SUP] After World War II ended, some 3,000 military veterans (constituting about 10 percent of the county population) had returned to McMinn County. Some of the returning veterans resolved to challenge Cantrell's political control by fielding their own nonpartisan candidates and working for a fraud-free election.[SUP][1][/SUP] They called themselves the GI Non-Partisan League.[SUP][3][/SUP] Veteran Bill White described the veterans' motivation:
There were several beer joints and honky-tonks around Athens; we were pretty wild; we started having trouble with the law enforcement at that time because they started making a habit of picking up GIs and fining them heavily for most anything—they were kind of making a racket out of it. After long hard years of service—most of us were hard-core veterans of World War II—we were used to drinking our liquor and our beer without being molested. When these things happened, the GIs got madder—the more GIs they arrested, the more they beat up, the madder we got ...[SUP][1][/SUP]
Combat veteran Knox Henry stood as candidate for sheriff in opposition to Cantrell.[SUP][1][/SUP] In advertisements and speeches, the GI candidates promised an honest ballot count and reform of county government. At a rally, a GI speaker said,
The principles that we fought for in this past war do not exist in McMinn County. We fought for democracy because we believe in democracy but not the form we live under in this county.[SUP][4][/SUP]
Battle

Polls for the county election opened August 1, 1946. About 200 armed deputies turned out to patrol the precincts—the normal complement of 15 deputies significantly augmented by reinforcements from other counties. A number of conflicts arose before the polls closed, the most serious of which was when deputy CM Wise shot and wounded a black man who was trying to vote.[SUP][3][/SUP]
As the polls closed, deputies seized ballot boxes and took them to the jail. Opposition veterans responded by arming themselves and marching there. Some of them had raided the National Guard Armory, obtaining arms and ammunition.[SUP][5][/SUP] Estimates of the number of veterans besieging the jail vary from several hundred[SUP][5][/SUP] to as high as 2,000.[SUP][3][/SUP]
When the men reached the jail, it was barricaded and manned by 55 deputies. The veterans demanded the ballot boxes but were refused. They then opened fire on the jail, initiating a battle that lasted several hours by some accounts,[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][5][/SUP] considerably less by others.[SUP][6][/SUP] In the end, the door of the jail was dynamited and breached. The barricaded deputies—some with injuries—surrendered, and the ballot boxes were recovered.
During the fight at the jail, rioting had broken out in Athens, mainly targeting police cars.[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][5][/SUP] This continued even after the ballot boxes were recovered, but subsided by morning.[SUP][6][/SUP]
Aftermath

The recovered ballots certified the election of the five GI Non-Partisan League candidates.[SUP][6][/SUP] Among the reforms instituted was a change in the method of payment and a $5,000 salary cap for officials. In the initial momentum of victory, gambling houses in collusion with the Cantrell regime were raided and their operations demolished. Deputies of the prior administration resigned and were replaced.[SUP][6][/SUP]
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Wait a second....I thought the 2nd amendment was for the protection of sportsmen and target shooters, oh yea, hunters also..........WHAAAT...:blsmoke:
 
scalia says gun restrictions are consistent with the second. so much delusion and derangement among the gun nuts.
 
I remember you said that the need for guns was long past. This happened in 1946!

Fk Scalia.

Oh, that's right you only read what supports your personal opinion. Not what is actually true like this bit of American history.
 
I feel very confident that the 2nd Amendment will stay intact. They will lobby to do some serious background checks and extend the waiting period, but they will never come close to stopping the American public from obtaining firearms, not this one anyway. I agree, if you are proven to have unstable mental faculties, then gun ownership for you is limited to super soakers and nerf rocket launchers. If you are found to be in possesion of a firearm when you are not to have one, they should take it from you and shoot you with it and then sell the gun to pay for the needed services and call it a day.
Kewl Post.

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Asmallvoice
 
I remember you said that the need for guns was long past. This happened in 1946!

Fk Scalia.

Oh, that's right you only read what supports your personal opinion. Not what is actually true like this bit of American history.

you prefer sotomayor's take on it?

you gun nuts are loud, but not rational. i'd be embarrassed to be part of your deranged little club.
 
you prefer sotomayor's take on it?

you gun nuts are loud, but not rational. i'd be embarrassed to be part of your deranged little club.

Yea, I can see that, you standing up in front of all those people and tell them you will defend your family with an axe and guns are not needed.

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Asmallvoice
 
Yea, I can see that, you standing up in front of all those people and tell them you will defend your family with an axe and guns are not needed.

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Asmallvoice

i have no need for a gun. i have installed enough preventative security that i'll be fine with just an axe and a dog.

guns are fine, i just don't see why anyone would need an arsenal of military grade weapons left unlocked about their house where their kid can get them. "because i can!", i suppose.
 
i have no need for a gun. i have installed enough preventative security that i'll be fine with just an axe and a dog.

guns are fine, i just don't see why anyone would need an arsenal of military grade weapons left unlocked about their house where their kid can get them. "because i can!", i suppose.

Thanks for the laugh again, that shit kills me.

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Asmallvoice
 
The good news is that he is likely to be a darwin candidate with his axe and dog routine...

staistically, the darwin award is far more likely to go to the gun owner. the gun in the house is many times more likely to kill a family member or loved one than an intruder.

:lol:

sure does suck when a joke backfires on you like that, doesn't it?
 
The good news is that he is likely to be a darwin candidate with his axe and dog routine...

ROTFLMAO, I bet even Darwin would be like "Really" Uncle Buck. With thought processes like that in existence, he would have to rethink his theory of evolution :lol:


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ASmallvoice
 
ROTFLMAO, I bet even Darwin would be like "Really" Uncle Buck. With thought processes like that in existence, he would have to rethink his theory of evolution :lol:


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ASmallvoice

the tools i use to alert me of any security breaches are far more advanced than your pea shooter.

and as the statistics bear out, i am less likely to kill a family member with my axe than you are with your gun.

darwin what now?
 
staistically, the darwin award is far more likely to go to the gun owner. the gun in the house is many times more likely to kill a family member or loved one than an intruder.

:lol:

sure does suck when a joke backfires on you like that, doesn't it?

That really depends on who is holding the gun...

The joke will be on you.
 
That really depends on who is holding the gun...

The joke will be on you.

fact is that the gun in the home is more likely to kill a family member than an intruder. doesn't apply in your case, as you live alone in a trailer.

and no one is coming for your lawnmower.
 
fact is that the gun in the home is more likely to kill a family member than an intruder. doesn't apply in your case, as you live alone in a trailer.

and no one is coming for your lawnmower.

The fact is that a gun in the home will not kill anyone...

It is pussies like you that are afraid of them jumping up and committing violence all by themselves...

I dont even own a lawnmower... Not really any point since I live in a desert...
 
you don't have to justify your life to us, although it would be cheaper to own one. that's gotta be cutting into your profits.

Yeah, I am only gonna make close to 500 bucks tomorrow.....

And you are going to waste the day playing golf while your wife supports you....

I will let you know if I am ever in need of your advice...
 
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