Why so many autoflower growers?

Renfro said:

Autoflower plants generally lack the potency of a good photo so I fail to see the attraction. Autos are a disservice to the cannabis gene pool. Terrible idea and one day we will regret diluting the gene pool with ruderalis genes.

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Ive known this for years and I’m frightened by all the people using autos for the same reasons you are. I try to keep a open mind but only ignorance and laziness seem to be the reasons to use autos.

Macncheesehaze said:

I’m confused how I didn’t read your question correctly? You asked why people would use it and I told you multiple reasons why. We’re they not the reasons you were looking for?

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Read the next reply I sent you, I did in hindsight forget to mention in the post that Im asking about indoor auto flower. you explained what auto flower was, I know this already. Im looking for a reason why people use them indoors? do you know a strain that I would know that is only autoflower? Me either.

I’m literally confused again. I didn’t explain what an autoflower was at all. I gave you indoor and outdoor reasons why someone would grow them. Now you have a different question about if there is a strain that is autoflower only and that’s fine. I don’t have the answer to that one. I agree ruderalis is obviously weaker but in retrospect if that’s your only shot at a harvest would you take no harvest instead?

Veggieblood said:

24/7 lighting? All the way through? Does it make yield noticeably better? I’ve never heard of running a plant 24/7 lighting all the way. Thanks for your words.

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I wouldn't know, it was suggested on a podcast as a perfect solution for people doing microgrows. I haven't grown any true autoflowers, and tbh wouldn't run 24/7 if I did (in my mind lights on means burning through electricity - both in terms of $ and the environment), if they'll flower under 24/7 why not run 18/6, or at least 20/4?

Also, I've been doing outdoors. Love that free light in the sky.

Veggieblood said:

24/7 lighting? All the way through? Does it make yield noticeably better? I’ve never heard of running a plant 24/7 lighting all the way. Thanks for your words.

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Yes. Some do 18/6 some do 24/7.

Macncheesehaze said:

I’m literally confused again. I didn’t explain what an autoflower was at all. I gave you indoor and outdoor reasons why someone would grow them. Now you have a different question about if there is a strain that is autoflower only and that’s fine. I don’t have the answer to that one. I agree ruderalis is obviously weaker but in retrospect if that’s your only shot at a harvest would you take no harvest instead?

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I’ll take No harvest, I don’t like auto’s. however I try to keep a open mind so I’m looking for reasons to use autos. No one has a answer that is better than using the correct strain. So you understand my perspective, Ive done breeding of marijuana for 10 years, I’m scared to see what I believe to be weak, inferior auto flower genetics being so commonly used. I understand why people take the shortcut, but the problems you will encounter will be greater than the quality of the strain. I’m trying not to think 50% of growers on this site are Not that lazy and ignorant.

Veggieblood said:

I’ll take No harvest, I don’t like auto’s. however I try to keep a open mind so I’m looking for reasons to use autos. No one has a answer that is better than using the correct strain. So you understand my perspective, Ive done breeding of marijuana for 10 years, I’m scared to see what I believe to be weak, inferior auto flower genetics being so commonly used. I understand why people take the shortcut, but the problems you will encounter will be greater than the quality of the strain. I’m trying not to think 50% of growers on this site are Not that lazy and ignorant.

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Has nothing to with lazy. Its inexperienced. Don't know what they are buying. Good marketing selling an inferior product to unsuspecting newbies.

Thats not to say I don't see value in autos for those who need to be descreete with they're grow.

Autos smell less and are smaller. Perfect for outdoor growers who have serious light pollution and nosey neighbors.

But the 50% you speak of is unsuspecting new growers..

Ignorance is such an ugly word.

In this world you dont know what you dont know..... ya know?

Wizzlebiz said:

Has nothing to with lazy. Its inexperienced. Don't know what they are buying. Good marketing selling an inferior product to unsuspecting newbies.

Thats not to say I don't see value in autos for those who need to be descreete with they're grow.

Autos smell less and are smaller. Perfect for outdoor growers who have serious light pollution and nosey neighbors.

But the 50% you speak of is unsuspecting new growers..

Ignorance is such an ugly word.

In this world you dont know what you dont know..... ya know?

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What he said

Wizzlebiz said:

Has nothing to with lazy. Its inexperienced. Don't know what they are buying. Good marketing selling an inferior product to unsuspecting newbies.

Thats not to say I don't see value in autos for those who need to be descreete with they're grow.

Autos smell less and are smaller. Perfect for outdoor growers who have serious light pollution and nosey neighbors.

But the 50% you speak of is unsuspecting new growers..

Ignorance is such an ugly word.

In this world you dont know what you dont know..... ya know?

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Thank you for correcting me in my Choice of words, ignorance and lazy, very dismissive of me and makes me the ignorant one. Not ignorant enough to use auto flowers though apparently, but lazy in rhetoric. My viewpoint is I’ve never had some trees I wanted to smell less? I do appreciate your explaining some people are fine with trees that smell like nothing, discretion. I guess I want my apples and oranges to taste and smell like apples and oranges.

Veggieblood said:

Thank you for correcting me in my Choice of words, ignorance and lazy, very dismissive of me and makes me the ignorant one. Not ignorant enough to use auto flowers though apparently, but lazy in rhetoric. My viewpoint is I’ve never had some trees I wanted to smell less? I do appreciate your explaining some people are fine with trees that smell like nothing, discretion. I guess I want my apples and oranges to taste and smell like apples and oranges.

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Then your asking questions you really don’t even need the answer to. You don’t NEED it to not stink. You don’t NEED it to flower on time before it frosts, etc etc so none of the reasons one would want an autoflower would ever appeal to you.

Macncheesehaze said:

Then your asking questions you really don’t even need the answer to. You don’t NEED it to not stink. You don’t NEED it to flower on time before it frosts, etc etc so none of the reasons one would want an autoflower would ever appeal to you.

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It’s the indoor thing that confuses me. I get outdoor, light pollution is a great point outdoors. I guess I’m just shocked that people do autos indoors and No one has given me a good answer Why? I appreciate our talk though, you Make good points, I didn’t explain my point more in the beginning. What’s your favorite strain?

Veggieblood said:

It’s the indoor thing that confuses me. I get outdoor, light pollution is a great point outdoors. I guess I’m just shocked that people do autos indoors and No one has given me a good answer Why? I appreciate our talk though, you Make good points, I didn’t explain my point more in the beginning. What’s your favorite strain?

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I personally am waiting for auto seeds so I could veg my gorrilla glue longer but they haven’t come so I flipped that and an LA OG to flower. The strain I like the most to grow or to smoke? The glue that I have so far is my favorite to grow. So far. My favorite to smoke right now is lemon og haze. I’m dying for a seed or cut of that.

Veggieblood said:

It’s the indoor thing that confuses me. I get outdoor, light pollution is a great point outdoors. I guess I’m just shocked that people do autos indoors and No one has given me a good answer Why? I appreciate our talk though, you Make good points, I didn’t explain my point more in the beginning. What’s your favorite strain?

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Here's a good answer. You can keep them small. So instead of having 2 plants and 2 strains you can fit more autos for more strains.

Some people like variety but don't have the budget for large grow areas.

I think this is extremely valid for those who like to have many fresh strains around.

Macncheesehaze said:

I personally am waiting for auto seeds so I could veg my gorrilla glue longer but they haven’t come so I flipped that and an LA OG to flower. The strain I like the most to grow or to smoke? The glue that I have so far is my favorite to grow. So far. My favorite to smoke right now is lemon og haze. I’m dying for a seed or cut of that.

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Your answer lets me know we agree on strains, Los Angeles OG is my favorite, the original heavy nuggets. Haven’t seen the lemon og in Years. Og always yielded so little, only true smokers grow it. you could have twice as much with another strain. Never grew the glue. I took about 10 strains to Michigan 10 years ago, just for breeding. 2 years ago I created something worth talking about. Los Angeles OG is the mom of my creation.

I tried 4 autos last run just out of curiosity but I wont grow them again. The potency just wasnt there and i really didnt save much time compared to vegging some photos for a few weeks.

chronnie49 said:

I tried 4 autos last run just out of curiosity but I wont grow them again. The potency just wasnt there and i really didnt save much time compared to vegging some photos for a few weeks.

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thank you, I also tried autos once outdoors and I didn’t take clones or reveg that thing. someone is selling snake oil Called “autoflower seeds”. Learn to grow and just get the right strain for your situation. I appreciate your vote for “F’ autoflower seeds>

Handy for people in apartments and things as they can just put them in the lounge room, kitchen, bathroom etc and the lights going on and off all the time wont bother them.
Each to their own, auto growers must know the genetics cannot be as good on avg as a photo but in saying that some Autos are damn good.

who gives a fk really?

Veggieblood said:

It’s the indoor thing that confuses me. I get outdoor, light pollution is a great point outdoors. I guess I’m just shocked that people do autos indoors and No one has given me a good answer Why?

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An example of one indoor use is a small scale perpetual grow. In a single tent you can start a plant or two every 30 days, and after less than 3 months you'll be harvesting once a month. A decent grower can produce two ounces per month. Every month you can have something different. For a casual grower/smoker, maybe that's all they need.

I understand your disrespecting autos, I started with photos indoors and out, and then moved to autos for my outdoor (short grow season) and am now contemplating autos for an indoor. They have come a LONG way in terms of quality in the last few years, but only a handful of breeders really have it down, the rest feed autos bad reputation for inconsistent genetics and quality (not dissimilar from bad photo breeders inundating the market with poorly conceived F1 crosses...).

Veggieblood said:

I keep seeing a lot of growers here, about 50% use auto flower Genetics, Why? I know what it is, don’t need a definition, just curious why so many choose to use auto flower seeds? Is it hard for you to make a plant flower?

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I like the fact that I can give auto's more light to produce more bud.
I wish photos could flower under 18/6 or 20/4.
I have an auto that started flowering after 3 weeks.
I'm not so sure that I'd be able to get the same final weight by
flipping a photoperiod plant after 3 weeks from sprout. However...
I do prefer photoperiod over auto. I like to be in control of the grow.

Because they're small and easy to maintain while focusing on my main grows with 8-10wk veg times. So by the time I flip I am harvesting some more buds. And there's so many different flavors of ruderalis so the real question is

Why not autoflowers