Why Is The Bible So Revered As The "Word of GOD"?
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mindphuk
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budlover13
King Tut
Just the first comparison was very interesting THAT is what I was looking for in my earlier posts. Bookmarked for future study. Bedtime now.
Thank you!
Shadydude
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People Revere the Bible as the "Word of GOD, because most people, don't know no better.
GOD is bigger than the Bible, Quran/Koran or the Torah.
When people understand that we all have the same LIFE FORCE as the Supreme Creator,
People won't put some much value on those man made books.
GOD Dwells in all beings and experiences all things through Man.
The Bible and Quran are supposed to be used as tools to help Man on his day to day struggles here on Earth, in this physical plane.
They are all interpretations.
Go do your history on King James. He translated the Bible into his own point of view to control the masses of the people.
The most important books are missing from the Bible!!!
God is bigger than Christianity, Islam or any other religion.
The word religion means to bind back to your source of Creation.
Meaning....man is on a spiritual quest to understand what and who GOD is.
God dwells in all of us, most people don't understand what this means and what powers they really have within.
Since there is so much confusion here on earth, most people on will never will awaken the true God qualities and potentials that they have.
We all get caught up in foolishness, which keeps our true Godiness dormant.
In the Bible and the Quran, they both say...Ye are all gods. Meaning, we have the same oneness and qualities as the Supreme Being.
Most people will never understand this.
GOD is bigger than the Bible, Quran/Koran or the Torah.
When people understand that we all have the same LIFE FORCE as the Supreme Creator,
People won't put some much value on those man made books.
GOD Dwells in all beings and experiences all things through Man.
The Bible and Quran are supposed to be used as tools to help Man on his day to day struggles here on Earth, in this physical plane.
They are all interpretations.
Go do your history on King James. He translated the Bible into his own point of view to control the masses of the people.
The most important books are missing from the Bible!!!
God is bigger than Christianity, Islam or any other religion.
The word religion means to bind back to your source of Creation.
Meaning....man is on a spiritual quest to understand what and who GOD is.
God dwells in all of us, most people don't understand what this means and what powers they really have within.
Since there is so much confusion here on earth, most people on will never will awaken the true God qualities and potentials that they have.
We all get caught up in foolishness, which keeps our true Godiness dormant.
In the Bible and the Quran, they both say...Ye are all gods. Meaning, we have the same oneness and qualities as the Supreme Being.
Most people will never understand this.
ChubbySoap
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i understand until we break back in and steal some fruit from the tree of life that god peep has hiding, we will be nothing like gods....
the spark of life bestowed by a particular god is nothing like the life force it possesses.
though the mere idea is delightful in of itself...
i don't need the king james version....i'd be happy to poke at any version, but i warn you i have limited dialects.
they all basically boil down to tools alright....like a gun that fires from both ends simultaneously whenever you pull the trigger
...real helpful and straight forward when you have the right point of view....whatever that is.
god's simple words were lost long ago....we much each wait until he gets around to us personally to tell us himself
that's all there is.
*holds out hands innocently*
the spark of life bestowed by a particular god is nothing like the life force it possesses.
though the mere idea is delightful in of itself...
i don't need the king james version....i'd be happy to poke at any version, but i warn you i have limited dialects.
they all basically boil down to tools alright....like a gun that fires from both ends simultaneously whenever you pull the trigger
...real helpful and straight forward when you have the right point of view....whatever that is.
god's simple words were lost long ago....we much each wait until he gets around to us personally to tell us himself
that's all there is.
*holds out hands innocently*
ChubbySoap
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take the whole praying bit...
nearly all gods are all knowing and have some sort of super secret squirrel plan....for it all...
so we pray to them, to assist our journeys, plead for whatever, give thanks, and so on...like they don't already know any better....
as if our praying will suddenly make the god in question go, "oh yeah...donno why i didn't think of that...sorry bout that....here you go little jiggly. *piff* seahawks win this year" or "you're welcome."
riiiiiight....
O__<
EDIT:
who actually takes the time to face Mecca correctly now that we know the earth is a sphere? seriously....who?
EDIT2:
.....oblate spheroid....whatever....the point is still valid
nearly all gods are all knowing and have some sort of super secret squirrel plan....for it all...
so we pray to them, to assist our journeys, plead for whatever, give thanks, and so on...like they don't already know any better....
as if our praying will suddenly make the god in question go, "oh yeah...donno why i didn't think of that...sorry bout that....here you go little jiggly. *piff* seahawks win this year" or "you're welcome."
riiiiiight....
O__<
EDIT:
who actually takes the time to face Mecca correctly now that we know the earth is a sphere? seriously....who?
EDIT2:
.....oblate spheroid....whatever....the point is still valid
budlover13
King Tut
I view praying in more of a reverence thing. If you are going to ask, God already knows. As I know when my son wants a given item. And instead of asking "Dad can I have this?" he quite often will say "Oh wow, that sure looks good." or "That's neat dad! It sure would be nice to have one!". I feel that God is much the same. I rarely(occassionally) get him a toy or candy or w/e without him asking for it. And when he's done beating around the bush, I say "Well, all you've got to do is ask."
BrotherBuz
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Like a moth, drawn to the flame.
BrotherBuz
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What you say does not hold water, because if it did, the Dead Sea Scrolls would be filled with errors. But instead, after 2,000 of translating, no error were found. This is not made up; this is physical evidence-not made up shit. Where is your Beef man?
ChubbySoap
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hey now! play fair...
only half....the new testament wasn't written yet...
oh, and the Book of Esther is missing for some odd reason....
*winks*
the only issue after that is the nagging detail the Dead Sea manuscripts have been scientifically dated and are known to have been written before the time of Christ.
most notably The Book of Isaiah, 100 to 250 years before Christ was tottering around...the very same person whom it portrays!
The text is indeed virtually identical to what we can read today in our Bibles.
the implications are uncomfortable to say the least after a clear moments thought
...
but it's okay....we can spin this to your benefit and sow more seeds of confusion...allow me a chance to craft the reply.....here we go...
God is merciful, He preserves His Word, and diligently provides proof of His existence to those who earnestly seek Him.
This only PROVES the Dead Sea Scrolls God has given us an authentication of the authentication.
First, for authentication of Jesus as the true Messiah, He provided many prophecies that were fulfilled only in Him and no-one else.
Now, to a later unbelieving generation, He has proved to us that these prophecies were exactly what they claimed to be, because we now have clear evidence that they were written well before the time Jesus Christ came to this earth.
First God authenticated His Son and His Word by the fulfillment of these prophecies.
Now He has further sealed this authentication with the stamp of time and history.
Nothing can now change this.
mahahaha....
indeed...
my response is simple distraction in such cases....such as,
the OTHER manuscripts among the Dead Sea Scrolls prove very interesting as well...they have opened wide a door to the culture, thoughts, ideas, customs and religious practices of the Jews living at the time of Christ.
This ignored information has showed clearly that the Books of the New Testament were not out of context to the time of Christ....and regrettably not the hogwash myth as claimed by more liberal interpretations
EDIT:
*squints suspiciously*
..as far as my research allows so far...i seem to be finding a 5% deviation twixt the texts....it's marginal to be sure....but it's no 100%
only half....the new testament wasn't written yet...
oh, and the Book of Esther is missing for some odd reason....
*winks*
the only issue after that is the nagging detail the Dead Sea manuscripts have been scientifically dated and are known to have been written before the time of Christ.
most notably The Book of Isaiah, 100 to 250 years before Christ was tottering around...the very same person whom it portrays!
The text is indeed virtually identical to what we can read today in our Bibles.
the implications are uncomfortable to say the least after a clear moments thought
...
but it's okay....we can spin this to your benefit and sow more seeds of confusion...allow me a chance to craft the reply.....here we go...
God is merciful, He preserves His Word, and diligently provides proof of His existence to those who earnestly seek Him.
This only PROVES the Dead Sea Scrolls God has given us an authentication of the authentication.
First, for authentication of Jesus as the true Messiah, He provided many prophecies that were fulfilled only in Him and no-one else.
Now, to a later unbelieving generation, He has proved to us that these prophecies were exactly what they claimed to be, because we now have clear evidence that they were written well before the time Jesus Christ came to this earth.
First God authenticated His Son and His Word by the fulfillment of these prophecies.
Now He has further sealed this authentication with the stamp of time and history.
Nothing can now change this.
mahahaha....
indeed...
my response is simple distraction in such cases....such as,
the OTHER manuscripts among the Dead Sea Scrolls prove very interesting as well...they have opened wide a door to the culture, thoughts, ideas, customs and religious practices of the Jews living at the time of Christ.
This ignored information has showed clearly that the Books of the New Testament were not out of context to the time of Christ....and regrettably not the hogwash myth as claimed by more liberal interpretations
EDIT:
*squints suspiciously*
..as far as my research allows so far...i seem to be finding a 5% deviation twixt the texts....it's marginal to be sure....but it's no 100%
BrotherBuz
Active Member
Okay! . . . Now spin it to your benefit. Lets see it.
Stalwart
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Essentially the answer to the original question is: People are habituated to life. Beyond any other thing you could say is that! So as it says in the bible "Bring up a child in the way he must go and when he is old he will not depart from it" So it's part just practice that keeps these folks stuck but it starts with the other thing we can say about folks and that's they are vulnerable/fearful/scared and anything that brings comfort including drugs pot or religion and that people are habituated to and they are gonna do it. My question is why aren't pot heads organizing to spread that good news!
mccumcumber
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Hmm fosil records state that humans are only 5k years old do they...
Well, this piece of art was found in Austria in 1908, due to carbon dating (I know you deny science, but this is how we measure how old fossils are so you're fucking yourself denying this) we found out that this was made in ~25000 BCE, this time period is known as the stone age, where modern humans in EUROPE (they had been around for a while to make it to Europe) started using stone tools to develop, showing evidence of intelligence. These are believed to be our ancestors (if you are of European decent):
http://www.visual-arts-cork.com/prehistoric/venus-of-willendorf.htm
As far as evolution is concerned... are you completely ignoring the fossils that were discovered in Africa that found three prehuman ancestors? Maybe do some research before bring up fossil records.
I know you won't trust the chronicle because it's far too liberal and from San Francisco but, here's a link to an article that will show you everything to look up:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/06/12/FOSSIL.TMP
So now onto the bible. Well how did any religion start. You have two cavemen, unkk and joe.
Lets start at 25000 BCE, the same time that the art piece was made.
Unkk and Joe wonder why caveman are on earth.
Joe does shrooms or some sort of hallucinogen and discovers answers to everything from powers that are beyond human comprehension.
Prehistoric religion is born.
20000 BCE
People who do hallucinogens regularly are considered the wise and the shamans. They "know the will of the gods."
5000 BCE
Concentrated groups of humans form small civilizations, shamans play larger rolls and have temples built in their gods honor.
3000 BCE
Horus is born through Egyptian Myths... Who's story is extremely similar to Jesus'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIMFz5ZKDVo
~1300
Moses is born, frees the Jews from Egyptian slavery, all Jews know the story of Horus very well after being slaves for so long.
Moses goes to Mount Sinai and sees God and is given the 10 commandments. Funny thing about Mount Sinai, one the largest areas where shrooms grow naturally in the world is Mount Sinai. Hmm...
~3 ACE
Jesus is born, his life is very similar to Horus
~200 ACE
New testament is finished.
~500 ACE
Emperor Constantine moves Rome's epicenter to Constantinople (modern day Istanbul) changes the religion and bible so that the dates of birth of the gods coincides with the Jewish and christian holy men. Thus Christmas and Easter are born. This eliminates thoughts of heresy because of the similarities. Constantine raises church's position in empire.
Orthodox and Catholic religions split.
~1000 ACE
Religion goes from holy practice to governing rule of the united nations of Europe after the Roman Empire has fallen completely. They call themselves the Holy Roman Empire.
The bible is altered NUMEROUS times to better benefit the pope and papacy. The pope was considered to be a "ruler anointed by God" much like the Egyptian pharaohs 3000 years before.
~1500 ACE
Martin Luther is tired of how corrupt the church is and forms the protestant religion. The papacy, still a very controlling part of Europe, change the bible to stop mass conversion and loss of power.
Gutenberg creates printing press, first book to go out on public record is the bible, they take a version from Rome that had just been altered, because it is considered to be the most accurate. From here the bible was not significantly altered because it was in wide circulation, and any large changes would be very noticeable.
Just my .02, don't mean to offend you man. It's impressive that you have so much faith, something I know I couldn't have.
Well, this piece of art was found in Austria in 1908, due to carbon dating (I know you deny science, but this is how we measure how old fossils are so you're fucking yourself denying this) we found out that this was made in ~25000 BCE, this time period is known as the stone age, where modern humans in EUROPE (they had been around for a while to make it to Europe) started using stone tools to develop, showing evidence of intelligence. These are believed to be our ancestors (if you are of European decent):
http://www.visual-arts-cork.com/prehistoric/venus-of-willendorf.htm
As far as evolution is concerned... are you completely ignoring the fossils that were discovered in Africa that found three prehuman ancestors? Maybe do some research before bring up fossil records.
I know you won't trust the chronicle because it's far too liberal and from San Francisco but, here's a link to an article that will show you everything to look up:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/06/12/FOSSIL.TMP
So now onto the bible. Well how did any religion start. You have two cavemen, unkk and joe.
Lets start at 25000 BCE, the same time that the art piece was made.
Unkk and Joe wonder why caveman are on earth.
Joe does shrooms or some sort of hallucinogen and discovers answers to everything from powers that are beyond human comprehension.
Prehistoric religion is born.
20000 BCE
People who do hallucinogens regularly are considered the wise and the shamans. They "know the will of the gods."
5000 BCE
Concentrated groups of humans form small civilizations, shamans play larger rolls and have temples built in their gods honor.
3000 BCE
Horus is born through Egyptian Myths... Who's story is extremely similar to Jesus'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIMFz5ZKDVo
~1300
Moses is born, frees the Jews from Egyptian slavery, all Jews know the story of Horus very well after being slaves for so long.
Moses goes to Mount Sinai and sees God and is given the 10 commandments. Funny thing about Mount Sinai, one the largest areas where shrooms grow naturally in the world is Mount Sinai. Hmm...
~3 ACE
Jesus is born, his life is very similar to Horus
~200 ACE
New testament is finished.
~500 ACE
Emperor Constantine moves Rome's epicenter to Constantinople (modern day Istanbul) changes the religion and bible so that the dates of birth of the gods coincides with the Jewish and christian holy men. Thus Christmas and Easter are born. This eliminates thoughts of heresy because of the similarities. Constantine raises church's position in empire.
Orthodox and Catholic religions split.
~1000 ACE
Religion goes from holy practice to governing rule of the united nations of Europe after the Roman Empire has fallen completely. They call themselves the Holy Roman Empire.
The bible is altered NUMEROUS times to better benefit the pope and papacy. The pope was considered to be a "ruler anointed by God" much like the Egyptian pharaohs 3000 years before.
~1500 ACE
Martin Luther is tired of how corrupt the church is and forms the protestant religion. The papacy, still a very controlling part of Europe, change the bible to stop mass conversion and loss of power.
Gutenberg creates printing press, first book to go out on public record is the bible, they take a version from Rome that had just been altered, because it is considered to be the most accurate. From here the bible was not significantly altered because it was in wide circulation, and any large changes would be very noticeable.
Just my .02, don't mean to offend you man. It's impressive that you have so much faith, something I know I couldn't have.
ChubbySoap
Well-Known Member
didn't mean to steal your thunder yo...
;___;
;___;
ChubbySoap
Well-Known Member
I already said i don't believe either side anyhow...i have no need for benefits in this particular arena
i tend to treat debates and chess the same way....it's a hell of a lot easier to play when you never have the intention of winning the round for yourself....all one need really do is to keep the opponent from winning
you seemed to have missed my question in the second part concerning those scrolls you're always thumping about as well...
how bout the rest of documents laying with the copper scrolls yo? you get around to reading those yet?
i absolutely hate to waste others pain...lol
i thought you said there was no errors...and there is a 5% deviation
Please clarify your position
i tend to treat debates and chess the same way....it's a hell of a lot easier to play when you never have the intention of winning the round for yourself....all one need really do is to keep the opponent from winning
you seemed to have missed my question in the second part concerning those scrolls you're always thumping about as well...
how bout the rest of documents laying with the copper scrolls yo? you get around to reading those yet?
i absolutely hate to waste others pain...lol
i thought you said there was no errors...and there is a 5% deviation
Please clarify your position
BrotherBuz
Active Member
Yeah! Whichever way the wind blows
Padawanbater2
Well-Known Member
Dude, I know you're just trollin', and doing a fine job at it, but for the love of your fake god, please try to put an original thought together... You know, words strung together in an organized fashion completing a sentence... You can do it, I have faith in you!Yeah! Whichever way the wind blows
BrotherBuz
Active Member
^^^ You best watch it buddy . . . I love to impale dudes like you!!
budlover13
King Tut
With *logic*. lol. You really are a pitbull. I don't agree, but admire your tenacity.
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