budlover13
King Tut
Nice edit. You know, people USED to get shot for falsely impuning a man's character. Good thing you live in this day and age. The vitriolic garbage you spew all the time would've made for a very short life expectancy in 1800.
Why Is The Bible So Revered As The "Word of GOD"?
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BrotherBuz
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You should know cop! I bet you've shot many peaceful budlovers in your career.
BrotherBuz
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Hey budlover, you fuck with the bull, you get the horn-every time.
budlover13
King Tut
Uhhmmmm, I never denied being an ex-cop. If THAT'S your beef with me, well, grow up. So you impune by lying about me lying, spread hatred, lies and the delusions in your head, and have a problem with me because I was a cop 15 years ago. Sums up your history fairly well I believe. Come back when you can ACT like an adult, regardless of your age.
budlover13
King Tut
And I didn't need to know you're horny either, thank you very much.
ChubbySoap
Well-Known Member
soooo....ever get around to finding salvation and free choice in the ol book there yet?
i provided specific passages for your inspection and everything....
I'd sure hate for you to miss out on all that....
i know it's a lot...and you have a whole barrel full of other questions you have yet to answer from other users, so if you need more study time, please just let me know.
o__o
i provided specific passages for your inspection and everything....
I'd sure hate for you to miss out on all that....
i know it's a lot...and you have a whole barrel full of other questions you have yet to answer from other users, so if you need more study time, please just let me know.
o__o
KlosetKing
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I did it on multiple occasions as well, and got nothing. Then only after i left the thread did he start with more bashing, and in so many words, claiming he won. He is only going to continue with insults and dodging until you ask so many questions you forget all about ones you asked earlier. As someone said before, spinning wheels here.
I know i said i was done but i couldn't resist. Your trying to reason with the unreasonable. He must be pretty proud of having 30 pages of successfully trolling and dodging.
ChubbySoap
Well-Known Member
no worries...he can't edit the rest of our posts.....if i forget, i'll just page back
I'm thoughtlessly enjoying myself...been good practice
I'm thoughtlessly enjoying myself...been good practice
budlover13
King Tut
It is good practice. Gotta sharpen the old debate knife on solid rock once in awhile! LOL!
ChubbySoap
Well-Known Member
seems our friend is napping....onward then!
who among us remaining knows the ten commandments? I mean REALLY knows them?
Seems a silly question, i know...
What if i where to say every Decalogue you have seen is totally bogus?
Every fight and public protest over where they are displayed is for naught.....pointless
Madness surely, one might say....i wouldn't blame you...let's see what the good book has to say....it should know.
Let us begin this study by turning to Exodus 20:2-17 in our king james bible
Here we see that all to familiar list of rules about having no other gods, honoring your parents, not killing or coveting, and so on.
At this point, though, Moses is just repeating to the people what God told him on Mount Si’nai.
These are not actually written down in any form.
I know....shocking....so what of it?
Exodus 31:18, that's what....Moses journeys back where God gives him two “tables of stone” with rules written on them.
A tired Moses comes down the mountain lugging his heavy load, an sees the people worshipping a statue of a calf...
Exodus 32:19 in fact, he throws a tantrum of epic proportions, and goes on to force the fools to eat their false god
....most importantly though, he has smashed his tablets in his rage.
oops, and oh shit....poor Moses...
...point being, in neither of these cases does the Bible refer to “commandments.”
In the first instance, they are “words” which “God spake,” while the tablets in the second instance contain “testimony.”
Exodus 34:28 is where the proverbial poo hits the fan...
An embarrassed Moses goes back for new tablets...this is when we finally see the phrase “ten commandments”.
Hold on to your hat!
In an interesting turn of events, the commandments on these ver. 2.0 tablets are significantly different than the ten rules Moses recited for the people.
anyhow....here they are, the ten commandments as per the bible...it's a riot for me....
who among us remaining knows the ten commandments? I mean REALLY knows them?
Seems a silly question, i know...
What if i where to say every Decalogue you have seen is totally bogus?
Every fight and public protest over where they are displayed is for naught.....pointless
Madness surely, one might say....i wouldn't blame you...let's see what the good book has to say....it should know.
Let us begin this study by turning to Exodus 20:2-17 in our king james bible
Here we see that all to familiar list of rules about having no other gods, honoring your parents, not killing or coveting, and so on.
At this point, though, Moses is just repeating to the people what God told him on Mount Si’nai.
These are not actually written down in any form.
I know....shocking....so what of it?
Exodus 31:18, that's what....Moses journeys back where God gives him two “tables of stone” with rules written on them.
A tired Moses comes down the mountain lugging his heavy load, an sees the people worshipping a statue of a calf...
Exodus 32:19 in fact, he throws a tantrum of epic proportions, and goes on to force the fools to eat their false god
....most importantly though, he has smashed his tablets in his rage.
oops, and oh shit....poor Moses...
...point being, in neither of these cases does the Bible refer to “commandments.”
In the first instance, they are “words” which “God spake,” while the tablets in the second instance contain “testimony.”
Exodus 34:28 is where the proverbial poo hits the fan...
An embarrassed Moses goes back for new tablets...this is when we finally see the phrase “ten commandments”.
Hold on to your hat!
In an interesting turn of events, the commandments on these ver. 2.0 tablets are significantly different than the ten rules Moses recited for the people.
anyhow....here they are, the ten commandments as per the bible...it's a riot for me....
I. Thou shalt worship no other god.
II. Thou shalt make thee no molten gods.
III. The feast of unleavened bread thou shalt keep.
IV. Six days thou shalt work, but on the seventh day thou shalt rest.
V. Thou shalt observe the feast of weeks, of the firstfruits of wheat harvest,
and the feast of ingathering at the year’s end.
and the feast of ingathering at the year’s end.
VI. Thrice in the year shall all your men children appear before the Lord God.
VII. Thou shalt not offer the blood of my sacrifice with leaven.
VIII. Neither shall the sacrifice of the feast of the passover be left unto the morning.
IX. The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring unto the house of the LORD thy God.
X. Thou shalt not seethe a kid [ie, a young goat] in his mother’s milk.
ChubbySoap
Well-Known Member
I'm selfish.....i just like to let everyone know that they are going to hell with me?
no disrespect of course.....it may prove useful for someone
no disrespect of course.....it may prove useful for someone
budlover13
King Tut
Yes, I declare YOU, ChubbySoap...........The CHAMPION!!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYsxRbgswds
Which Bible are you reading Chubby? Those aren't the words I've read. I copy and pasted this to save typing:
12Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
13Thou shalt not kill.
14Thou shalt not commit adultery.
15Thou shalt not steal.
16Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. 17Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
And this is the 10 Commandments listed in Deutronomy Ch 5:
2The LORD our God made a covenant with us in Horeb.
3The LORD made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day.
4The LORD talked with you face to face in the mount out of the midst of the fire,
5(I stood between the LORD and you at that time, to shew you the word of the LORD: for ye were afraid by reason of the fire, and went not up into the mount
saying,
6I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
7Thou shalt have none other gods before me.
8Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth:
9Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,
10And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.
11Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain: for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
12Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee.
13Six days thou shalt labour, and do all thy work:
14But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine ass, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou.
15And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.
16Honour thy father and thy mother, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee; that thy days may be prolonged, and that it may go well with thee, in the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
17Thou shalt not kill.
18Neither shalt thou commit adultery.
19Neither shalt thou steal.
20Neither shalt thou bear false witness against thy neighbour.
21Neither shalt thou desire thy neighbour's wife, neither shalt thou covet thy neighbour's house, his field, or his manservant, or his maidservant, his ox, or his ass, or any thing that is thy neighbour's.
22These words the LORD spake unto all your assembly in the mount out of the midst of the fire, of the cloud, and of the thick darkness, with a great voice: and he added no more. And he wrote them in two tables of stone, and delivered them unto me.
23And it came to pass, when ye heard the voice out of the midst of the darkness, (for the mountain did burn with fire,) that ye came near unto me, even all the heads of your tribes, and your elders; 24And ye said, Behold, the LORD our God hath shewed us his glory and his greatness, and we have heard his voice out of the midst of the fire: we have seen this day that God doth talk with man, and he liveth.
I'm not finding what you're quoting.
Which Bible are you reading Chubby? Those aren't the words I've read. I copy and pasted this to save typing:
12Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
13Thou shalt not kill.
14Thou shalt not commit adultery.
15Thou shalt not steal.
16Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. 17Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
And this is the 10 Commandments listed in Deutronomy Ch 5:
2The LORD our God made a covenant with us in Horeb.
3The LORD made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day.
4The LORD talked with you face to face in the mount out of the midst of the fire,
5(I stood between the LORD and you at that time, to shew you the word of the LORD: for ye were afraid by reason of the fire, and went not up into the mount
saying, 6I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
7Thou shalt have none other gods before me.
8Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth:
9Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,
10And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.
11Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain: for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
12Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee.
13Six days thou shalt labour, and do all thy work:
14But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine ass, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou.
15And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.
16Honour thy father and thy mother, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee; that thy days may be prolonged, and that it may go well with thee, in the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
17Thou shalt not kill.
18Neither shalt thou commit adultery.
19Neither shalt thou steal.
20Neither shalt thou bear false witness against thy neighbour.
21Neither shalt thou desire thy neighbour's wife, neither shalt thou covet thy neighbour's house, his field, or his manservant, or his maidservant, his ox, or his ass, or any thing that is thy neighbour's.
22These words the LORD spake unto all your assembly in the mount out of the midst of the fire, of the cloud, and of the thick darkness, with a great voice: and he added no more. And he wrote them in two tables of stone, and delivered them unto me.
23And it came to pass, when ye heard the voice out of the midst of the darkness, (for the mountain did burn with fire,) that ye came near unto me, even all the heads of your tribes, and your elders; 24And ye said, Behold, the LORD our God hath shewed us his glory and his greatness, and we have heard his voice out of the midst of the fire: we have seen this day that God doth talk with man, and he liveth.
I'm not finding what you're quoting.
budlover13
King Tut
Heh! Got a surprise smiley in there! It must be a hidden message from God.
ChubbySoap
Well-Known Member
XD
king james of course...mine is a rather older copy....but the internet provides
http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/book.php?book=Exodus&chapter=20&verse=
http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/book.php?book=Exodus&chapter=31&verse=
http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/book.php?book=Exodus&chapter=32&verse=
http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/book.php?book=Exodus&chapter=34&verse=
king james of course...mine is a rather older copy....but the internet provides
http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/book.php?book=Exodus&chapter=20&verse=
http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/book.php?book=Exodus&chapter=31&verse=
http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/book.php?book=Exodus&chapter=32&verse=
http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/book.php?book=Exodus&chapter=34&verse=
budlover13
King Tut
Wow Chubby. I've never thought of it that way. VERY interesting. It seems as though I have some more research to do.
ChubbySoap
Well-Known Member
i do jokes derived from the bible too!
Job: …
God: Well, this is awkward.
God: Abraham, you must circumcise yourself.
Abraham: As you wish, my lord! *grabs knife*
God: Oh my Me... He’s totally going to do it!
EDIT:
ignore me i'm stoned to the gills...i already regret posting that
:facepalm:
Dx
Job: …
God: Well, this is awkward.
God: Abraham, you must circumcise yourself.
Abraham: As you wish, my lord! *grabs knife*
God: Oh my Me... He’s totally going to do it!
EDIT:
ignore me i'm stoned to the gills...i already regret posting that
:facepalm:
Dx
budlover13
King Tut
No, it was funny. More people need to loosen up when speaking of the and discussing the Bible. I mean, I believe in God. And while he's a vengeful, jealous God, so am I. Naturally. I view God as less of a Father and more as a friend. And when I talk to/with friends, I joke. It's my personality. It helps me not take the world so darn serious. And most of my friends agree that they like this newer me. SOME think I'm irreverent and going to hell. Some think I should do standup. Others think I'm just stoned. And their right about that
! But love me or hate me, I'm still going to joke around.
! But love me or hate me, I'm still going to joke around.
ChubbySoap
Well-Known Member
even i got to learn something today
i had forgotten about that bit in Exodus 34:14....God's name is revealed.......Jealous...
that might explain a few things...or at the very least provide some food for thought during journeys
i had forgotten about that bit in Exodus 34:14....God's name is revealed.......Jealous...
that might explain a few things...or at the very least provide some food for thought during journeys
budlover13
King Tut
He who stops learning, stops growing. He who has no faith in anything, will find that he is wandering in circles.
My new quote(found it today on another thread) for my son when I am trying to enlighten him either through showing him how to work on the car or speaking to him about the deeper aspects of life:
Son, pay attention or pay tuition.
My new quote(found it today on another thread) for my son when I am trying to enlighten him either through showing him how to work on the car or speaking to him about the deeper aspects of life:
Son, pay attention or pay tuition.
budlover13
King Tut
BrotherBuz: See where a calm, logical, polite conversation can lead to good things. Chubby and I, while we don't hold the exact same beliefs, have conducted ourselves in a respectable manner and both walked away learning something new. Amazing how it works that way.
And people wonder why the world is going to hell in a handbasket.
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