Why don't gays/lesbians deserve to have the right to be married?

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purplekitty7772008

purplekitty7772008

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the420 apprentice said:
and no you cant have every gay and lesbian couple adopting kids. can u imagine the confusion of an orphan who ounce no normal family life and is then put in a different situation like two gay men. the world is mean naturaly, so should they have to suffer all the shit the will get from others there whole dam life just because your gay selfish as wants a kid to no i dont think they should. just because lots of people do something doesnt mean its right.
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It doesn't make a difference to children.
My mom is bisexual.

She's always been that way.

I have 6 other brothers and sisters and none of us were ever
confused about it. We knew there was nothing wrong about
it.

And none of us are gay or bisexual either.
Children see the love between two people as being normal.
Thats what's so great about kids.

There is no "right" and "wrong" between two people loving
each other and children can see that.

The only reason people think its wrong is because society
makes it seem as though its wrong.

If society didn't teach us to think that being gay/lesbian
was wrong, no one would have a problem with it.

Culture teaches us whats right and wrong, but some of
us go outside the box and think for ourselves.

chitownsmoking said:
i dont care either way. im just upset at how many gays and how open they are about it on t.v. me personally it sickens me, but what happends behind other peoples closed doors isnt my bizzness, just like what happends behind my doors arent theres.

ironicly.... lesbians dont bother me has much........except for ellen degenerous i hate that bitch
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Exactly.

What someone else does is no one else's business.
So why care if they get married?

And I like Ellen. She is really funny. :hump:
 
hater hurter

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grow space said:
And U my friend are a idiot!!!
look at my posts, i debating, back the fuckk off dude.
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dude if you're either from england or america then you're the idiot. i mean leaving out words when writting then mispelling the fuck out of what you do write. you should calm down with the name calling at least he can spell and punctuate, meanwhile you write like either a kindergarten genius or 9th grade retard.

personally i think they should be able to get married. most gay couples are more caring and loving cause they know first hand how harsh the world can be and they wouldn't want any of that to be inflicted on anyone else. they say it would be a mockery to let gays marry, i say with a 50% divorce rate it's already a mockery.

as for the religious, how is that being against marriage is not seen as being intolerant. i thought turn the other cheek and do unto others was their motto.

but then again more people have been killed in the name of god than any other reason and yet thou shalt not kill? hypocracy much?
 
the420 apprentice

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the ignorance is that u think the prejudice wont always be there it will and its not right to subject a child to it just to win a personal battle. there in lies the fault with the idea, and idea that the world should and can be this great big disney movie were everybodys equal and happy. news flash its your imagination running wild.
 
purplekitty7772008

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chitownsmoking said:
do u really wanna see 2 dudes holding hands???? in the same neighborhood were ur tryna raise ur kids in a hetorosexual manure? how do you explaine that to a 7 year old? would you even want to?
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They would be exposed to it either way in the real world.
Keeping children in the dark about things does nothing to
solve problems. It only makes them more confused because

they weren't taught about it.

hater hurter said:
dude if you're either from england or america then you're the idiot. i mean leaving out words when writting then mispelling the fuck out of what you do write. you should calm down with the name calling at least he can spell and punctuate, meanwhile you write like either a kindergarten genius or 9th grade retard.

personally i think they should be able to get married. most gay couples are more caring and loving cause they know first hand how harsh the world can be and they wouldn't want any of that to be inflicted on anyone else. they say it would be a mockery to let gays marry, i say with a 50% divorce rate it's already a mockery.

as for the religious, how is that being against marriage is not seen as being intolerant. i thought turn the other cheek and do unto others was their motto.

but then again more people have been killed in the name of god than any other reason and yet thou shalt not kill? hypocracy much?
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Please please no name calling. :neutral:
Don't want the thread to get closed guys!

And I completely agree with you. Couldn't have said it
any better myself.

Why can't we just LIVE AND LET LIVE!!!!
 
the420 apprentice

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purp i never questioned the care and love of the couple hell my girl is bi. do want it openely displayed in front of my daughter no i do not. if she chooses that life style in life then fine by me. and if her son turned gay id still love him but the little queers still dont have marriage as a right. give a piece of paper the says life partners and get on with there lives.
 
grow space

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hater hurter said:
dude if you're either from england or america then you're the idiot. i mean leaving out words when writting then mispelling the fuck out of what you do write. you should calm down with the name calling at least he can spell and punctuate, meanwhile you write like either a kindergarten genius or 9th grade retard.

personally i think they should be able to get married. most gay couples are more caring and loving cause they know first hand how harsh the world can be and they wouldn't want any of that to be inflicted on anyone else. they say it would be a mockery to let gays marry, i say with a 50% divorce rate it's already a mockery.

as for the religious, how is that being against marriage is not seen as being intolerant. i thought turn the other cheek and do unto others was their motto.

but then again more people have been killed in the name of god than any other reason and yet thou shalt not kill? hypocracy much?
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Im so sick of your kind of ignorant ppl.For fuck sake, not everyone are from america or england, and dont speak daily english-ok, so dude take some of my mother language and swallow it!!!-mine munni kuradi loll lits, vitunägu raisk, sa tuled siin hüppama, ise ei saa sittagi aru alaarenenud abordi jäänus -ok:evil::evil::evil:
 
purplekitty7772008

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the420 apprentice said:
the ignorance is that u think the prejudice wont always be there it will and its not right to subject a child to it just to win a personal battle. there in lies the fault with the idea, and idea that the world should and can be this great big disney movie were everybodys equal and happy. news flash its your imagination running wild.
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That's the point. The prejudice doesn't have to be
there if everyone is taught about it.

No one is subjecting children to anything they won't see
by themselves anyway.

And teaching them about it has nothing to do with
a person battle. What battle is there?

We all know the world isn't some Disney movie, but why
keep the children ignorant to the world?

If they ask you about something, tell them what YOU feel
about the situation, and tell them they don't have to believe

what you believe in. Tell them they can make their own
opinions about these situations.
 
the420 apprentice

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and the whole raising children with gays, so what there gay tell the kids there not stupid. if you dont agree with it then tell them that. in the end the will chose how the feel about anyway.
 
the420 apprentice

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and sadly even when taught not to hate or be prejudice some will always choose hate, hence why prejudice will never go away. but that child that grows up in the traditional sense will not have to deal with the addittional ridicul of a child adopted by two flaming queers or some super butch dikes. this can create life long issues for a child.
 
purplekitty7772008

purplekitty7772008

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the420 apprentice said:
purp i never questioned the care and love of the couple hell my girl is bi. do want it openely displayed in front of my daughter no i do not. if she chooses that life style in life then fine by me. and if her son turned gay id still love him but the little queers still dont have marriage as a right. give a piece of paper the says life partners and get on with there lives.
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ok. So if your girlfriend told you she wanted to get married
to another woman, would you tell her she doesn't deserve

to have that?

Its perfectly fine to not want to have your children exposed
to it because its your household and you raise your kids the
way you feel is best...

But to say that all people don't deserve this right
is crazy to me.

And to ban people from doing this isn't justifiable at all.
All gays/lesbians aren't in everyone's household going against

what the parents' feel is right. They just want the same rights
as everyone else.
 
PVS

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chitownsmoking said:
do u really wanna see 2 dudes holding hands???? in the same neighborhood were ur tryna raise ur kids in a hetorosexual manure? how do you explaine that to a 7 year old? would you even want to?
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doesnt affect me if 2 guys hold hands.

i would explain to the lad that those 2 guys are homosexuals. then i would answer the next inevitable question by simply saying that some men feel attracted to other men instead of women. and...well that would be that really.

also, i would argue that you can't really train your kid to not be gay. you can train him to not be a sissy, but who he'll feel attracted to is beyond your control....imho
 
Green Cross

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the420 apprentice said:
and the whole raising children with gays, so what there gay tell the kids there not stupid. if you dont agree with it then tell them that. in the end the will chose how the feel about anyway.
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Children are better off when there are 2 parents, a mommy and a daddy. Why throw a child into a dysfunctional family?

I think they should make divorce illegal for all families with children in the home, because that hurts kids too.
 
purplekitty7772008

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the420 apprentice said:
and sadly even when taught not to hate or be prejudice some will always choose hate, hence why prejudice will never go away. but that child that grows up in the traditional sense will not have to deal with the addittional ridicul of a child adopted by two flaming queers or some super butch dikes. this can create life long issues for a child.
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Exactly.

Why shelter them from it?

They will choose what they choose no matter what.
 
PVS

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Green Cross said:
Children are better off when there are 2 parents, a mommy and a daddy. Why throw a child into a dysfunctional family?

I think they should make divorce illegal for all families with children in the home, because that hurts kids too.
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an unstable household with 2 parents that hate eachother's very presence can be far more detrimental imho.
 
fitch303

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Marriage is an institution created by religion, if that religion says gays can't be married then so be it. I do believe people should have the option of a civil union witht he same benefits as marriage.
 
purplekitty7772008

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PVS said:
doesnt affect me if 2 guys hold hands.

i would explain to the lad that those 2 guys are homosexuals. then i would answer the next inevitable question by simply saying that some men feel attracted to other men instead of women. and...well that would be that really.

also, i would argue that you can't really train your kid to not be gay. you can train him to not be a sissy, but who he'll feel attracted to is beyond your control....imho
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Green Cross said:
Children are better off when there are 2 parents, a mommy and a daddy. Why throw a child into a dysfunctional family?

I think they should make divorce illegal for all families with children in the home, because that hurts kids too.
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What makes 2 woman or 2 men being together raising a child
dysfunctional?

The whole point is that they have 2 loving caring parents who
will do their best to take care of them...and thats what matter.

My mom had a husband. Doesn't mean she was the best
mother, or that he was the best stepdad. He's actually
the worst parent I've ever seen. They got divorced.
 
the420 apprentice

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and we have argued about this and she nows i dont agree with it and would say no. give them something else its really just the word and how hetrosexual customs are, i want somethings to just be the way it is.
 
Green Cross

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PVS said:
an unstable household with 2 parents that hate eachother's very presence can be far more detrimental imho.
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Whether they hate each other or not, the children are still going to be in the middle, but I think the split is what really hurts kids.

What do you think the failure rate for gay couples staying together is, as apposed to hetero couples?
 
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