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Uberknot

Uberknot

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twostrokenut said:
Tenth amendment reads.......The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Eighteenth ammendment reads:
Section 1. After one year from the ratification of this article the manufacture, sale, or transportation of intoxicating liquors within, the importation thereof into, or the exportation thereof from the United States and all the territory subject to the jurisdiction thereof for beverage purposes is hereby prohibited.

Section 2. The Congress and the several States shall have concurrent power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

Section 3. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of the several States, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years from the date of the submission hereof to the States by the Congress.

So alcohol was Lawful before delegated to the United States by the Constitution. Fact, no? So where is the amendment delegating cannabis to the United States?

This is why States retain control over alcohol and have different standards.

Same with cannabis.
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Actually no they dont the fed/congress allows the states.

You better understand this the states always have to answer to the fed period when it comes to law of the land for the Untied States of America.
 
twostrokenut

twostrokenut

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Uberknot said:
Actually no they dont the fed/congress allows the states.

You better understand this the states always have to answer to the fed period when it comes to law of the land for the Untied States of America.
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Don't get me wrong...I do understand your programming/conditioning.
 
Uberknot

Uberknot

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twostrokenut said:
Don't get me wrong...I do understand your programming/conditioning.
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I know the law and the fed/congress is the law.

If any state law violates the feds law they need permission from the fed to do it.

That's the thing the Fed laws set precedent for the Country and the States well they have to follow them.

If they make laws that infringe on federal law the federal law in most cases will override anything the state does.

It all depends on the......you guessed it supreme court which could be 7-2 soon...
 
twostrokenut

twostrokenut

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Uberknot said:
Actually no they dont the fed/congress allows the states.

You better understand this the states always have to answer to the fed period when it comes to law of the land for the Untied States of America.
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Holy shit. Does the Federal Government exist without the States, or do the States exist without the Federal Government?

Does England exist without the EU?
 
Uberknot

Uberknot

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twostrokenut said:
Holy shit. Does the Federal Government exist without the States, or do the States exist without the Federal Government?

Does England exist without the EU?
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The States are just bordered land with limited powers........The United States of America encompasses ALL States.

States do not exist without the FED/Congress approving them in the first place.
 
twostrokenut

twostrokenut

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Uberknot said:
I know the law and the fed/congress is the law.

If any state law violates the feds law they need permission from the fed to do it.

That's the thing the Fed laws set precedent for the Country and the States well they have to follow them.

If they make laws that infringe on federal law the federal law in most cases will override anything the state does.

It all depends on the......you guessed it supreme court which could be 7-2 soon...
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Case Law should support the Constitution, but its up to interpretation, and overturn. Not finite.
 
Uberknot

Uberknot

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twostrokenut said:
Case Law should support the Constitution, but its up to interpretation, and overturn. Not finite.
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Case law only really matter when it's close.......If they have the judges case law is nothing.

and yeah it's going to be all interpreted by the conservative court.
 
Uberknot

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Let me put it this way....Roe vs Wade is in fact in jeopardy right now.

If they get one more.....it is very possible it could be overturned.

Two more? you can bet it's gone.

and that is already counting the free one they blocked for over a year basically.

All I can say is the people better fucking wake the hell up.
 
twostrokenut

twostrokenut

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Uberknot said:
The States are just bordered land with limited powers........The United States of America encompasses ALL States.

States do not exist without the FED/Congress approving them in the first place.
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Uberknot said:
17: To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;—And
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So all States are "not exceeding ten Miles square"? Nope.

Uberknot said:
Case law only really matter when it's close.......If they have the judges case law is nothing.

and yeah it's going to be all interpreted by the conservative court.
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Can you show me the "closed" case law jurisprudence? It's always open.
 
twostrokenut

twostrokenut

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Uberknot said:
Let me put it this way....Roe vs Wade is in fact in jeopardy right now.

If they get one more.....it is very possible it could be overturned.

two more? you can bet it's gone.
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I feel ya on that one. It's a very different conversation than the right to uphold that or overturn that though. A message is different than the right to convey the message or interpretation.
 
Uberknot

Uberknot

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twostrokenut said:
So all States are "not exceeding ten Miles square"? Nope.



Can you show me the "closed" case law jurisprudence? It's always open.
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Roe vs Wade is case law......you think that cannot be overturned with a 7-2 court? lol.

I am telling you it's all up in the air right now and things can change rapidly.

People can sit there and think oh but this law and this case etc etc.....It will not matter.
 
twostrokenut

twostrokenut

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Uberknot said:
Roe vs Wade is case law......you think that cannot be overturned with a 7-2 court? lol.

I am telling you it's all up in the air right now and things can change rapidly.

People can sit there and think oh but this law and this case etc etc.....It will not matter.
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All case Law is open...."up in the air". I literally just stated that.

When a case is overturned, it becomes new case Law. It's the Judiciary check and balance.
 
Uberknot

Uberknot

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Here is a real threat.....McConnell starts the Senate rules by eliminating the fillabuster all together.

After all the years they have blocked the nations recovery with the fillabuster.

After he does this he only needs 50 votes instead of 60...I think they have 52 now?
 
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