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twostrokenut

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rights cannot be subjected to a vote, you fucking bigot.

that's why they are rights.



I support the right of neighbors to limit their traffic......neighborhood associations are voluntary and contractual in many cases. If not they fall to city ordinances....if not then to county "statutes" then to state then federal........

Your neighborhood allow a drag strip to be built for fun weekend activities? Don't forget, drag racing is the right of every American.
How about a gun range next door? Its a right you bigot sexist, misogynistic, and anti-semitic person.

sorta racist?

he said only 5% of black people had reasonable political opinions and gave a tutorial on how to shoot black people.



no one believes that.
So no link then.
 

UncleBuck

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I support the right of neighbors to limit their traffic......neighborhood associations are voluntary and contractual in many cases. If not they fall to city ordinances....if not then to county "statutes" then to state then federal........

Your neighborhood allow a drag strip to be built for fun weekend activities? Don't forget, drag racing is the right of every American.
How about a gun range next door? Its a right you bigot sexist, misogynistic, and anti-semitic person.
zoning laws and the bill of rights are two entirely different concepts, trailer trash.
 

twostrokenut

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zoning laws and the bill of rights are two entirely different concepts, trailer trash.
"All remaining powers are reserved for the States or the People".



The Constitution protects your right to contract......even if it's outside the Constitution.
 
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twostrokenut

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you're not bright. but no one expects a racist, sexist, misogynistic, jew-hating bigot to be bright.
The right to congregate....I missed that in the Constitution. Can you provide a link that shows you can have a concert with a bazillion people in your small yard without consulting your neighbors?

Lets face it. Woodstock was a right of that farmer. You are no Yasgur and have no such right of ownership.

 
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Uberknot

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I support the right of neighbors to limit their traffic......neighborhood associations are voluntary and contractual in many cases. If not they fall to city ordinances....if not then to county "statutes" then to state then federal........

Your neighborhood allow a drag strip to be built for fun weekend activities? Don't forget, drag racing is the right of every American.
How about a gun range next door? Its a right you bigot sexist, misogynistic, and anti-semitic person.



So no link then.

Actually.....The Federal laws pretty much override anything else unless the congress gives the states the option to choose what they want. States are not countries and they will follow the law of the land except where allowed to choose differently by the Congress/Fed.
 

Uberknot

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Case in point it's legal to grow and smoke in Cali now.....But if the fed says yer done yer done and they can throw you in jail and charge you no matter what the states says.
 

twostrokenut

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Actually.....The Federal laws pretty much override anything else unless the congress gives the states the option to choose what they want. States are not countries and they will follow the law of the land except where allowed to choose differently by the Congress/Fed.
Explain mmj and rec states please. States are nations and are in voluntary contract with the Union, including funding. States have their own Constitutions.
 

Uberknot

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Explain mmj and rec states please. States are nations and are in voluntary contract with the Union, including funding. States have their own Constitutions.

Fed over rides everything pretty much unless the congress/fed give states the option to be different in the law.

They are part of a Union of a Country...and they agreed to this when joining.

What ever the Fed/Congress pass is law unless it is challenged at the supreme court usually.

And even then most cases the judges go with Law of the Land for the United States of America
 

twostrokenut

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Fed over rides everything pretty much unless the congress/fed give states the option to be different in the law.

They are part of a Union of a Country...and they agreed to this when joining.

What ever the Fed/Congress pass is law unless it is challenged at the supreme court usually.

And even then most cases the judges go with Law of the Land for the United States of America
They agree to the Law(Constitution) only. Are you suggesting scheduled narcotics existed when the Constitution was signed? Name one substance besides Alcohol that was made unlawful by the Constitution.........
 

Uberknot

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Most of the constitution gives the fed powers to control the country as they see fit. it lays out alot of formalities of how they can get there, but in the end the fed has the power to make laws as they see fit for the well being of the United States of America.

They agree to the Law(Constitution) only. Are you suggesting scheduled narcotics existed when the Constitution was signed? Name one substance besides Alcohol that was made unlawful by the Constitution.........
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

2: To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

3: To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

4: To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

5: To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

6: To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

7: To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

8: To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

9: To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

10: To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

11: To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

12: To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

13: To provide and maintain a Navy;

14: To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

15: To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

16: To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

17: To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;—And

18: To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.
 

Uberknot

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The deal is in order for the cannabis thing to move forward we needed the supreme court....we lost it. And if they get to appoint 1 or 2 more which will be the oldest judges god help us all. It wont be pot we have to worry about.

In other words it could be very likely now that we end up with a court that is 7-2 conservative.

The short sightedness of the american people about the supreme court this election will come back to haunt them.

Justice Date of Birth Appointed by Sworn in
Vacant
(Antonin Scalia) 3/11/1936
Died 2/13/2016
Age: 79 yr 11 mo Ronald Reagan 9/26/1986

Served: 29 yr 4 mo
Anthony Kennedy 7/23/1936
Age: 80 yr 4 mo Ronald Reagan 2/18/1988
Served: 28 yr 9 mo
Clarence Thomas 6/23/1948
Age: 68 yr 5 mo George H. W. Bush 10/23/1991
Served: 25 yr 1 mo
Ruth Bader Ginsburg 3/15/1933
Age: 83 yr 8 mo Bill Clinton 8/19/1993
Served: 23 yr 3 mo
Stephen Breyer 8/15/1938
Age: 78 yr 3 mo Bill Clinton 8/3/1994
Served: 22 yr 4 mo
John G. Roberts 1/27/1955
Age: 61 yr 10 mo George W. Bush 9/29/2005
Served: 11 yr 2 mo
Samuel A. Alito, Jr. 4/1/1950
Age: 66 yr 8 mo George W. Bush 1/31/2006
Served: 10 yr 10 mo
Sonia Sotomayor 6/25/1954
Age: 62 yr 5 mo Barack Obama 8/8/2009
Served: 7 yr 4 mo
Elena Kagan 4/28/1960
Age: 56 yr 7 mo Barack Obama 8/7/2010
Served: 6 yr 4 mo
 
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UncleBuck

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The right to congregate....I missed that in the Constitution. Can you provide a link that shows you can have a concert with a bazillion people in your small yard without consulting your neighbors?

Lets face it. Woodstock was a right of that farmer. You are no Yasgur and have no such right of ownership.

so you're saying muslims have no right to build a mosque because of woodstock?

that's almost as good as your "i'm not racist for saying racial slurs because kurt cobaine" excuse.

beyond pathetic.
 

twostrokenut

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The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

All voluntary, therefore uniform. satisfied.

2: To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

and yet "shall not emit bills of credit'. The Fed does that. Satisfied.

3: To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

Interstate is different than Intrastate....highways and interstates.....Ohio and any other state may make and distribute any firearm they see fit in their state. Satisfied.

4: To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

Laws not statutes

5: To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

The reason your coins do not say "federal reserve token" on them. Different issuing authority. Satisfied.

6: To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

But don't punish yourself, just like the federal mmj patients,, punish the contractors though.

7: To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

Yet FedEX and UPS sued and won, their right to exist as competition......establishment preserved.

8: To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

NASA exists, Patents exist.......

9: To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

Tribunals are under contract inferior to Article III courts which are not......Military, Traffic and Tax Court are examples of Tribunals.

10: To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

Constitution is the "law of the land". First Congress included "saving to suitors" clause to preserve "exclusive original cognizance" to all seizures on land. You contract into the water though...it's on you if you know. If you aren't aware, there's Remedy.

11: To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

Concerning. All war after WWII falls under "Rules"?

12: To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

LOL

13: To provide and maintain a Navy;

Global force for good?

14: To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

10 square miles.

15: To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

Well armed militia? LOL

16: To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

Volunteer military from all States.

17: To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;—And

What do the post markers of Washington D.C. measure again? Ten square miles. What did they purchase?

18: To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

Tenth amendment reads.......The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Eighteenth ammendment reads:
Section 1. After one year from the ratification of this article the manufacture, sale, or transportation of intoxicating liquors within, the importation thereof into, or the exportation thereof from the United States and all the territory subject to the jurisdiction thereof for beverage purposes is hereby prohibited.

Section 2. The Congress and the several States shall have concurrent power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

Section 3. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of the several States, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years from the date of the submission hereof to the States by the Congress.

So alcohol was Lawful before delegated to the United States by the Constitution. Fact, no? So where is the amendment delegating cannabis to the United States?

This is why States retain control over alcohol and have different standards.

Same with cannabis.
 
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