Why do detractors constantly fail to argue against policy?

ttystikk

ttystikk

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dabby duck said:
If you consider 20% all, then I guess your right......2-

FBI 2016 Murder Rate
10 Wilmington, DE
9 Trenton, NJ
8 Riviera Beach, FL
7 New Orleans, LA
6 Camden, NJ
5 Detroit, MI
4 Gary, IN
3 St. Louis, MO
2 Chester, PA
1 East St. Louis, IL

4 Cities in the South if you include the St Louies......
but how Red?

East St Louis has a higher murder rate and violent crime rate in 2016 than 2015, which was also the year a Democratic mayor was elected.....

St Louis
Hasn't had a Republican mayor since Aloys Kaufmann in 1949. Fringe of the Deep South, but usually considered part of the "South".

New Orleans
Normally this would be easy, except they have Never had a Republican mayor, ever. Yes, LA is probably red but not 'Nawlins apparently.

Riviera Beach, FL.
Another likely give me [2-10 according to your thesis......] but in Miami. I guess they still hate Kennedy in Palm Beach and southwards....

What about the rest?
Chester Pa.
Suburb of Philly, which hasn't had a Republican mayor [Bernard Samuel] since the start of 1952. Also within spitting distance from Joe Biden's stomping grounds [Delaware]

Gary Indiana.
Just across the Indiana Illinois border from the 2nd largest city in the US [Hint:, probably Blue]

Detroit
Not in the south not Red

Camden NJ
Not in the South, Not Red

Trenton NJ
Not in the south and not red

Wilmington DE
Not in the South and Not Red, but the Home of Joe Biden, this one dude.
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How about looked at from a different angle.....
MURDER INCREASE FROM 2015
CITY SEPT. UPDATE 2016 FINAL DIFFERENCE

Oakland, Calif.
Cleveland
San Antonio
Chicago
Memphis, Tenn.
San Francisco

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/u-s-cities-experienced-another-big-rise-in-murder-in-2016/
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And @UncleBuck is caught lying AGAIN!
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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dabby duck said:
If you consider 20% all, then I guess your right......2-

FBI 2016 Murder Rate
10 Wilmington, DE
9 Trenton, NJ
8 Riviera Beach, FL
7 New Orleans, LA
6 Camden, NJ
5 Detroit, MI
4 Gary, IN
3 St. Louis, MO
2 Chester, PA
1 East St. Louis, IL

4 Cities in the South if you include the St Louies......
but how Red?

East St Louis has a higher murder rate and violent crime rate in 2016 than 2015, which was also the year a Democratic mayor was elected.....

St Louis
Hasn't had a Republican mayor since Aloys Kaufmann in 1949. Fringe of the Deep South, but usually considered part of the "South".

New Orleans
Normally this would be easy, except they have Never had a Republican mayor, ever. Yes, LA is probably red but not 'Nawlins apparently.

Riviera Beach, FL.
Another likely give me [2-10 according to your thesis......] but in Miami. I guess they still hate Kennedy in Palm Beach and southwards....

What about the rest?
Chester Pa.
Suburb of Philly, which hasn't had a Republican mayor [Bernard Samuel] since the start of 1952. Also within spitting distance from Joe Biden's stomping grounds [Delaware]

Gary Indiana.
Just across the Indiana Illinois border from the 2nd largest city in the US [Hint:, probably Blue]

Detroit
Not in the south not Red

Camden NJ
Not in the South, Not Red

Trenton NJ
Not in the south and not red

Wilmington DE
Not in the South and Not Red, but the Home of Joe Biden, this one dude.
........................................................




How about looked at from a different angle.....
MURDER INCREASE FROM 2015
CITY SEPT. UPDATE 2016 FINAL DIFFERENCE

Oakland, Calif.
Cleveland
San Antonio
Chicago
Memphis, Tenn.
San Francisco

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/u-s-cities-experienced-another-big-rise-in-murder-in-2016/
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ttystikk said:
And @UncleBuck is caught lying AGAIN!
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i guess you fellas are too stupid to know the difference between a state and a city. must be trump lovers.

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choomer

choomer

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UncleBuck said:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
go suck a cop's dick, choomboi!
he just got 20 years for this one. i bet you cried when the jury sentenced him o prison for shooting an unarmed black man in the back.
you only said baltimore once.
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Yeah, one shooting in one state proves your point so well and is unassailable proof of the rife red state conspiracy.
While it wasn't a shooting,where was Eric Garner from again?

Here's a video of how well gov't works in these matters.
UncleBuck said:
i guess you fellas are too stupid to know the difference between a state and a city. must be trump lovers.
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But your stance on the electoral college avers that you think cities are much more important than states.
Which is it Buckld?
Baltimore
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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UncleBuck said:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

go suck a cop's dick, choomboi!


he just got 20 years for this one. i bet you cried when the jury sentenced him o prison for shooting an unarmed black man in the back.

you only said baltimore once.
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Unfortunately, he's the exception that proves the rule.

Let's start seeing dozens of cops going away every year and then your argument might have an actual leg to stand on.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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dabby duck said:
lol...now your 50% right on your thesis, better keep looking until you find a source that suits your narrative...which sister fucker state do you reside in?
New mexico? Lol
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you got one state, new mexico. now name the other 4 states from the top 10 that are not ruby red.

i believe in you. so does trump. he loves the poorly educated.
 
choomer

choomer

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UncleBuck said:
no one cares about empty land because it cannot vote.
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Your opinion that "no one cares about empty land" is widely echoed, but that land and the people who inhabit it have major value as everything in your refrigerator proves.
UncleBuck said:
3 million more votes for hillary. the people wanted hillary.
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I explained how electoral college kept the popular vote from being the only metric to elect a president, and this election wasn't the 1st time there has been a non-popular vote president in the white house.

Then there is the unanswered question about the amount of illegal votes in the 2016 election that were cast by non-citizens who entered the country unlawfully influencing that popular count.
While the incident of prosecution for this crime is barely better than the amount of congress critters with Obamacare or being indicted for insider trading, here is an example of why it should matter: ;)
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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choomer said:
Your opinion that "no one cares about empty land" is widely echoed, but that land and the people who inhabit it have major value as everything in your refrigerator proves.

I explained how electoral college kept the popular vote from being the only metric to elect a president, and this election wasn't the 1st time there has been a non-popular vote president in the white house.

Then there is the unanswered question about the amount of illegal votes in the 2016 election that were cast by non-citizens who entered the country unlawfully influencing that popular count.
While the incident of prosecution for this crime is barely better than the amount of congress critters with Obamacare or being indicted for insider trading, here is an example of why it should matter: ;)
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the "unanswered question"? Trump parroting imbecile.
 
choomer

choomer

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Unclebaldrick said:
the "unanswered question"? Trump parroting imbecile.
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Post your source that answers that question then.
Or insult me some more as that is always a quintessential way to convince people that you're a thinking person with opinion worth listening to. ;)
 
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twostrokenut

twostrokenut

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choomer said:
Yeah, one shooting in one state proves your point so well and is unassailable proof of the rife red state conspiracy.
While it wasn't a shooting,where was Eric Garner from again?

Here's a video of how well gov't works in these matters.

But your stance on the electoral college avers that you think cities are much more important than states.
Which is it Buckld?
Baltimore
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it's convenient as fuck to hold both sides of that position.....especially as the popular vote crowd's end game is to election-map-by-county-3d-1.png eliminate states.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Does red mark the places where cattle, moose and corn voted? Or is that a map showing economic prosperity in the US and red marks the highest rates of bankruptcies? Or is red where trailer dwellers live? Maybe opioid addiction rates with red highest?

All of the above?
 
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