Why dispensary weed SUCKS!

alltatup

Active Member
The semi-legal pot industry has never been comparable to any other part of the US "free" market. There is no interstate commerce, so each state has its own isolated market, where each government within each state has the ability to draft and pass laws and regulations as restrictive as NM's, or as open as CO's.

In the case of CO, the state legislature is responsible for why the cannabis market is the way it is. They are the reason why only people with more than a million in cash to invest, or with wealthy investors, can participate in the marketplace. They are the reason why those people don't have to compete with anyone but themselves and their own little clique of shop owners. They are the reason why people working as growers and trimmers are paid next to nothing, and why no one has been able to start a union. These shop owners hold all the card; they have all the power in the situation. They will always have more demand than they can possibly meet with their supply, and without any real competition--inside or outside of the state--they can pretty much do whatever they want: charge whatever they want, pay employees whatever they want, and pay themselves whatever they want. Usually regulations are meant to help consumers and the public from the wealthy and powerful business owners, but in this case the regulations only served to empower them even more.

But I imagine that if, or when, the nation fully legalizes and a national marketplace is created, it won't take all that long for the smaller fish--who as of now are big fish in their own state and its isolated pot market--to be eaten and shit out by the bigger fish. And, as mentioned, the Walmart effect will come into play, and people will be more than willing to sacrifice certain things and values--like the mom and pop shop--in favor of attractively cheap pot prices. People shop at Walmart because they are poor. They feel they must save as many nickels and dimes as they can, because they are virtually wage slaves and feel they have no other choice.

People, like society itself, are much harder to manipulate and control when they don't feel like they are one step away from being homeless. A poor man with integrity and values is more than willing to cast aside his integrity, to dismiss his values, in return for a significant financial gain. A poor cop with piles of debt and bills is far more susceptible to bribes and abuse of his authority than a cop who is financially secure and not in any debt. A poor community will easily shut down their main street and mom and pop shops if it means they get to save 15% on their grocery bills. And this is where the wealthy capitalists want to keep us all. They want to keep us all just poor enough to not lose our minds and come for their heads. They want us all to be grateful for being allowed to work our lives away for them, just so we can buy that second car, that bigger TV, or bigger house, or whatever the fuck. They want to keep us where they believe we belong: dancing on the poverty line and singing about the "American dream."
Well spoken!! It's business as usual to see people and cannabis exploited in these ways: clearly, good health is not a priority in this country. If it were, the junk food/fast food industry (replacement of sugar with high fructose corn syrup, etc.), the pharmaceutical companies, lousy physicians, Monsanto and its poisonous agriculture,--all of them--would not be in control. That status quo is responsible for the opoid epidemic as well as the obesity, heart and diabetes crises in usa.

I started growing my own almost 2 years ago, and I don't think I could ever smoke street or commercial weed again; I'd rather do without. I'm a convert: I worship cannabis and feel so honored to cultivate her! Everything about her is sacred to me. When I think back to the way my weed guy used to treat his bags of weed, I cringe. It's like the difference between a cake baked from scratch with top quality, fresh ingredients and a Betty Crok-a-shit box cake.
 

RoF

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Canadian here. I love the dispensary weed I'm getting from BC dispensaries. You can tell they've been properly cured and manicured. Personally, it's always worth paying the 1-2$ dollar more a gram for some of their top shelf.

I have had some of my favorite strains come out of those places such as Chocolate x Thunderfuck and Sweet Island Skunk.

Sweet Island Skunk was so special that the 12$ gram I bought came in a plastic container to protect the shockingly loose bud structure. It was the sweetest stuff I ever tasted. Like smoking a fine hay. Oddest, sickest bud I've ever had and it came from a dispensary.

So I guess not all dispensaries are made equal.
 

RoF

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This would make me run from that smoke, I never heard someone describe their smoke as "hay" in a good way before :D
I know I know it's hard to describe. It was a really loose bud covered in trichromes and had a very sugary taste. Oddly loose but you could tell someone took real good care of it.
 

alltatup

Active Member
Canadian here. I love the dispensary weed I'm getting from BC dispensaries. You can tell they've been properly cured and manicured. Personally, it's always worth paying the 1-2$ dollar more a gram for some of their top shelf.

I have had some of my favorite strains come out of those places such as Chocolate x Thunderfuck and Sweet Island Skunk.

Sweet Island Skunk was so special that the 12$ gram I bought came in a plastic container to protect the shockingly loose bud structure. It was the sweetest stuff I ever tasted. Like smoking a fine hay. Oddest, sickest bud I've ever had and it came from a dispensary.

So I guess not all dispensaries are made equal.
I'm glad to hear that there are dispensaries where they produce good quality bud for their customers, "properly cured and manicured." I respect folks who sell no bud before its time.
 

mastermind303033

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It's all basically gonna turn into a replica of our modern beer market. Someone else already made this reference here, but it is very accurate. There will be the big commercial grows/brands that are comparable to Budweiser and Corona and any other major beer company and then you will have small microbrew equivalents of more local and costly buds. Some people pay 400 an ounce in legal AND Illegal states and when it is all nationally legalized you will still have people willing to pay 50-60 an 8th for high quality, well manicure, and well cured bud as opposed to 20 for an 8th of schwag. Some people are LUCKY enough to have good strains available to them and some are not. You should realize that some growers also get their hands on a decent enough strain and genetics and decent enough is good enough for them and most consumers. With beer I have spent years downing cheap 30 racks because it was more for less. Now if I drink I spend the extra money for a small sixer of IPAs and "drink responsibly". Weed is the exact same and will mirror the Beer Market and trade.
 

Esrod96

New Member
I know this may sound way out ther but here is the deal with disapensary bud. It is not 100% whole and intact. The bud strains we are talking about are strong as hell! So why this flat weak bland jar of coughing? All most ALL! Weed bud or flower has been processed to remove some hash oil was resin etc. Most places use butane as its almost undetectable if hit a batch for a short amount of time. So this allows a shop to get bud or grow bud, take a little wax off the top and then sell the remaining bud at market price ($10-$25 a gram) while also selling the wax at $20-$50 a gram! I lived in the north east (Boston and NYC) and smoked SO MANY BOMB STRAINS! I mean you con roll up a gram take two or four hits and be super high! Flavors were always full deep and in your face! The smoke was smooth and light! Only some danker indicas might make you cough. Now you go to a dispensary pick through a hundred jars of faded bland looking and weak smelling left over trash from BHO runs. The lab results are when the buds leave the grow and not what's in your jar. Trust me I have had bud from medical weed deliveries in El Centro CA, San Diego CA, 15 store front dispensary in LA and Hollywood and 5 store front 4 delivery services in NorCal Sunnyvale area. It's was ALL damaged, wreak, poor smoking, poor burning, taste terrible and had no smell. Only one delivery based driver in El Centro gave us RAW untouched buds on a handful of occasions. It was grand daddy purple and pre 98 bubba kush. Full flavor and super potent. The major clue is smell. Weed stinks. Even 2 year old Mexican brick weed has a smell but this stuff is next to odorless. Some clues of tampered bud is a lightness of color around a buds stem. This is where resin oils etc are being drawn out of the plant. Another trend is cbd bud being thrown into weed arena because for some reason hemp bud needs to look almost like real marijuana so watch out if th bud looks real good bud doesn't get you high. Also you have to remember that real loud stinky good ass strong bud goes for $2K-$6K per pound on the streets so most high grade stuff is destined for illegal routes. Dispensaries can not afford to invest that much in in strain so the buy multiple pounds of lower grade bud (and skim some wax and oils off the top) to fill there shelfs. They also have bills like rent employee wages etc. They really have to buy cheap product and stretch it a 1000 ways from Sunday across multiple products. Where do you think all the stuff that isn't bud comes from? This new corporate weed amartican thinks that this stuff is so strong no one will know the diff.
 

Wastei

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A plant can be cloned over an over again for about 3 years before losing vigour growth in veg(from my experience). A mom can be run forever and cloning is a clone with identical properties, final. I think it has more to do with lacking complete nutrient profile. The bud looks great but lack smell and potency.

A lot of growers fake their lab results these days.
 
I know this may sound way out ther but here is the deal with disapensary bud. It is not 100% whole and intact. The bud strains we are talking about are strong as hell! So why this flat weak bland jar of coughing? All most ALL! Weed bud or flower has been processed to remove some hash oil was resin etc. Most places use butane as its almost undetectable if hit a batch for a short amount of time. So this allows a shop to get bud or grow bud, take a little wax off the top and then sell the remaining bud at market price ($10-$25 a gram) while also selling the wax at $20-$50 a gram! I lived in the north east (Boston and NYC) and smoked SO MANY BOMB STRAINS! I mean you con roll up a gram take two or four hits and be super high! Flavors were always full deep and in your face! The smoke was smooth and light! Only some danker indicas might make you cough. Now you go to a dispensary pick through a hundred jars of faded bland looking and weak smelling left over trash from BHO runs. The lab results are when the buds leave the grow and not what's in your jar. Trust me I have had bud from medical weed deliveries in El Centro CA, San Diego CA, 15 store front dispensary in LA and Hollywood and 5 store front 4 delivery services in NorCal Sunnyvale area. It's was ALL damaged, wreak, poor smoking, poor burning, taste terrible and had no smell. Only one delivery based driver in El Centro gave us RAW untouched buds on a handful of occasions. It was grand daddy purple and pre 98 bubba kush. Full flavor and super potent. The major clue is smell. Weed stinks. Even 2 year old Mexican brick weed has a smell but this stuff is next to odorless. Some clues of tampered bud is a lightness of color around a buds stem. This is where resin oils etc are being drawn out of the plant. Another trend is cbd bud being thrown into weed arena because for some reason hemp bud needs to look almost like real marijuana so watch out if th bud looks real good bud doesn't get you high. Also you have to remember that real loud stinky good ass strong bud goes for $2K-$6K per pound on the streets so most high grade stuff is destined for illegal routes. Dispensaries can not afford to invest that much in in strain so the buy multiple pounds of lower grade bud (and skim some wax and oils off the top) to fill there shelfs. They also have bills like rent employee wages etc. They really have to buy cheap product and stretch it a 1000 ways from Sunday across multiple products. Where do you think all the stuff that isn't bud comes from? This new corporate weed amartican thinks that this stuff is so strong no one will know the diff.
Wow. Some shred of evidence that this has ever happened, once, would be powerful stuff.
 
I don't agree that dispensary weed sucks. It's expensive. Much of it is disappointing. I live in Ohio. That's important. Canadian dispensary cannabis is probably better than Ohio's cannabis. This is pure speculation, though, because it's not like ordering heroin on the internet; getting weed from Canada is actually difficult.

Hard to know about getting weed from Colorado. Nobody's offered. I've had fake medical dispensary cannabis from California that was some of the best I've ever tasted. Purple Punch in a can. Never thought I'd see that day, growing up during the 80s...

Anyway, Ohio. Dispensary weed does not suck here. The problem is not people harvesting trichomes from virgin buds--it's regulatory. $50 for 2.83 grams of Sour Grapefruit Kush, OR $250 for exactly 10 times that, outdoor-grown, from a large west coast state? (Both are delicious, for me.)
 
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Dreaming1

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It does suck. Why? Because it's a business. This is corporate weed, without a corporation name on it. The worst part is the analysis numbers can not be accurate. A strain measuring 25% thc should destroy you. It wont from a dispensary. The herb probably measures 10%-12%. I have seen an ocean of Mexican bricks. You could build whole neighborhoods. It was always about the same quality. And I saw numbers measuring potency between 12%-18%. It was a different level of high compared to dispensary "top shelf." A very couchlocked stoned. And there are soaring high from other stuff from Mexico. And that shit was for business purpose too. So...greedy Americans is the answer. We are our own problem.
 

ismann

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It usually sits around in warehouses waiting to ship for months because dispensaries can't move all of the backlogged weed at the distribution sites. Plus it's usually lower quality, mass-produced weed grown for a specific length of time, usually not to maturity. Home grown or small farm weed will always be superior.
 

Bigballin85

Active Member
Okay so I'm gonna get straight to the point. All of us know the majority of dispensary weed sucks. This is my hypothesis of why dispensary weed sucks. First of all I think they use too many clones. After you clone a plant so much it starts to lose its quality. Do you know why? Because it is a clone and not the original. People are forgetting the soul element. The original plant had the soul. The clones do not. And to make matters worse the growers seem to be growing in mass amounts at a time, giving little personal attention to the plants. When you clone plants and show them little respect and attention, that's what happens. They give you low quality bud.
Dispensary weed is so much better than not having weed, especially when you live in an illegal state.

I see so many rants about bad dispensary weed. I get it but damn it’s way better than no weed lol.
 

Couch_Lock

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Dispensaries in Massachusetts dont gaf about quality. I've seen 11% thc crap sell for the same $50 or $55 an eigth. The strains range anywhere 11% thc to maybe 27%, priced exactly the same. More then its worth.

A 23% Lavender strain was the best I bought from Theory Wellness. The terps, the taste and a heavy sedated buzz.........intoxicated night of deep sleep, yes!
 

Boatguy

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Dispensaries in Massachusetts dont gaf about quality. I've seen 11% thc crap sell for the same $50 or $55 an eigth. The strains range anywhere 11% thc to maybe 27%, priced exactly the same. More then its worth.

A 23% Lavender strain was the best I bought from Theory Wellness. The terps, the taste and a heavy sedated buzz.........intoxicated night of deep sleep, yes!
Im in mass, and have a dispensary a mile from me. Only ever tried their super lemon haze and i keep going back to it.
Mostly couch lock on the blackmarket and thats not what im after.
 
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