Who was the worst political figure in history?

Who was the worst political figure in history?

  • Heinrich Himmler

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  • Osama Bin Ladin

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  • Kim Jong Il

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  • Charles Taylor

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  • Total voters
    16

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Oh poo. DrKynes anticipated me. My candidate is Genghis Khan. He laid waste to all the lands he conquered. The ten on the list were merely cruel. Genghis was also spendthrift and a vandal, a destroyer of culture for its own sake without the veneer of ideology. cn
 

ginjawarrior

Well-Known Member
As I'm not sure of the name of the pharoh that Moses saw I have to go for Constantine

I'd happily change it if someone points out an earlier enabler of the big three fairy tales
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
As I'm not sure of the name of the pharoh that Moses saw I have to go for Constantine

I'd happily change it if someone points out an earlier enabler of the big three fairy tales
the pharaoh of Exodus is not actually a historical figure. that whole episode is pure garbage. had the egyptians suffered any of the plagues so named the info would have been recorded. and not just by the egyptians, there were greeks in the region, plenty of chaldeans etc.. had the nile turned to blood or an entire generation of egyptians been slain by supernatural forces that would have been headline news. likewise the egytians (who were almost as anal with their record keeping as the germans) have extensive records of the payments to workers for the construction of their monuments (not slaves in the majority, but egpytian farmers in the off season working on pyramids in lieu of taxes) and no mention of jewry.

only the torah and the book of exodus make this specious claim.
 

Mr Neutron

Well-Known Member
Maybe the thread should have been titled "Name the worst conquerer in history" because none of the listed names or names mentioned above, are politicians.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
But conquest is politics at its most direct. cn

<add> Your post does raise a question though, one hinted at in some of the responses.
The OP's question can be interpreted in one of two ways:
1) who was the most immediately murderous? or
2) who instituted an idea/ideology that made straight the way for future atrocities?

Most answers have been of type 1 because it's easier to assign direct damage.
The answers of type 2 are harder to defend, because one would need to show that the idea was the necessary driver for the future awfulness. And it's never that simple. Jmo.
 

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
Did you know he also invented the internet?

Edit: What about Attila the Hun?
Bullshit, don't try lie to me...it was the noble and reclusive Swiss that invented the "net of inter".

And they say you can believe everything you read on forums!
 

Canna Sylvan

Well-Known Member
Maybe the thread should have been titled "Name the worst conquerer in history" because none of the listed names or names mentioned above, are politicians.
Does the title say politician? I think the title says, political figure. Ayn Rand is a political figure who inspired hundreds of politicians to steal and starve Peter and Paul to feed their own desires. So I nominate Ayn Rand as the most evil despot enabler.
 

Mr Neutron

Well-Known Member
Does the title say politician? I think the title says, political figure. Ayn Rand is a political figure who inspired hundreds of politicians to steal and starve Peter and Paul to feed their own desires. So I nominate Ayn Rand as the most evil despot enabler.
I stand corrected... on the title.
 

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
Does the title say politician? I think the title says, political figure. Ayn Rand is a political figure who inspired hundreds of politicians to steal and starve Peter and Paul to feed their own desires. So I nominate Ayn Rand as the most evil despot enabler.
I nominate you defender of Rabbits.

Remember tho, every Obama vote is another ballistic shelled bunny ;)
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
While I'm no fan of Ayn, I think you overestimate her influence. I could make a stronger case (of type 2) for a philosopher of the previous century, Dr. Karl Marx. In fact, i just noticed his absence in the list. Hmmm. cn
 

beardo

Well-Known Member
Chris Christie
He really needs to work on his figure if he doesn't want to go down as the worst figure in political history
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
Bullshit, don't try lie to me...it was the noble and reclusive Swiss that invented the "net of inter".

And they say you can believe everything you read on forums!
thats pure eurotrash lies.

arpanet was the first network system, the swiss in cern only created the www system that allows shared documents within the existing network structure. they created the basics of the browser, not the network. you might as well insist that Steve Gutenberg invented reading just because he invented the printing press that made reading easier to access.

also he later starred in several Police Academy movies so he is a real american genius.
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
While I'm no fan of Ayn, I think you overestimate her influence. I could make a stronger case (of type 2) for a philosopher of the previous century, Dr. Karl Marx. In fact, i just noticed his absence in the list. Hmmm. cn
but marx was NOT a bad figure in politics or history, he was a misguided dreamer and buffleheaded fool who wrote the original communist ideology that has been repeatedly raped by shitty fanfiction writewrs like mao, stalin, mussolini, and that biter hitler, who plagiarized mussolini's plagiarization of marx's das kapital to create his own shitty comminism/dictatorship crossover fanfiction that has been re-plagiarized by shitty unimaginative writers for nearly a century now.

by himself marx was a harmless nutball, just like jesus, but the assholes who took his shit and smeared it on the wall were the real dickheads. just like jesus.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
but marx was NOT a bad figure in politics or history, he was a misguided dreamer and buffleheaded fool who wrote the original communist ideology that has been repeatedly raped by shitty fanfiction writewrs like mao, stalin, mussolini, and that biter hitler, who plagiarized mussolini's plagiarization of marx's das kapital to create his own shitty comminism/dictatorship crossover fanfiction that has been re-plagiarized by shitty unimaginative writers for nearly a century now.

by himself marx was a harmless nutball, just like jesus, but the assholes who took his shit and smeared it on the wall were the real dickheads. just like jesus.
At the same time, he gave shape to a century of revolutions. And some of the messed-up régimes that grew in after the revolutions. He isn't excused from the microscope of history. I note that bad intention wasn't specified in the thread's premise. While I don't accuse Marx of bad intention, I most certainly claim bad outcome. cn
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
At the same time, he gave shape to a century of revolutions. And some of the messed-up régimes that grew in after the revolutions. He isn't excused from the microscope of history. I note that bad intention wasn't specified in the thread's premise. While I don't accuse Marx of bad intention, I most certainly claim bad outcome. cn
then we must place the blame for all the world's ills on Atook, the first man to stand upright, invented the date rape drug in his attempt to zug zug with Lana, created the first real weapons, and discovered fire.

Tonda should have beat Atook's ass and saved us all from his troubles and his technology.

also, cannabis might still produce those kickin berries today, and you know that shit was the BOMB!!.
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
While I'm no fan of Ayn, I think you overestimate her influence. I could make a stronger case (of type 2) for a philosopher of the previous century, Dr. Karl Marx. In fact, i just noticed his absence in the list. Hmmm. cn
Why would Karl Marx be on the list? I wouldn't hold him responsible for the actions of others, I'm pretty sure that's not the vision he had in mind when he set out with his research..

If Karl Marx is on the list, Jesus is too

(no, that's not a comparison between the two, it's an association, just like Marx would be)

@ Keynes, I wrote this response before reading yours
 

Canna Sylvan

Well-Known Member
If Jesus makes the list, I'm voting Yoda. That dude was a pansy bitch, who just because he lost one fight ran crying, letting the rest of the Jedi to fend for themselves.
 
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