Who knows of 2012,

hom36rown

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I watched the whole thing of that Esoteric Agenda Video, and I have to admit it did have a lot of good stuff in there that makes sense. However I dont think that most of it is even true. For example, how the hell is the government planning on reducing the population to 500 million by 2012??? Thats a very drastic decrease, how are you supposed to kill 6 billion people? and without somebody doing something about it. Unless you plan on starting WWIII with nuclear and hydrogen bombs over a period of a few years I would think reducing the population that much would be impossible. There is a couple more things on there that dont really make sense either, but for the most part it was a pretty good video.
yeah I agree, like trying to use tap water and aspartame as a means of population control...cmon now...they could do a lot better than that
 
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We TaRdED

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I don't want fluoride in my tap water. What if we had a lot more potential than we realize but we have been dumbed down by the fluoride in the water and thats all we know? How would you know how smart you could be if you never had the chance? You can't miss it if you never had it though- we've been drinking fluoride all our lives.:cry:

YouTube - Dangers of Fluoride This vid is for the kiddies

YouTube - Fluoride Poisoning This vid is for the adults

YouTube - Professional Perspectives: Fluoride in Tap Water

YouTube - David Rockefeller speaks about population control.

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hom36rown

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I got an RO filter, so I dont gotta worry about it....but Im pretty sure all the weed I smoke is making me dumber than the the fluoride in tap water would.
 
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We TaRdED

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Nutricide - Criminalizing Natural Health, Vitamins, and Herbs

spread the word, seriously. this isn't a fucking conspiracy theory.
Its all conspiracy theories unless people hear it out of your TV, radio, or news paper. People can be slapped in the face with facts on the internet but unless it comes from the mainstream media than its a conspiracy theory because people now don't know what to believe.

I'll watch your vid micro.. Can you briefly explain what its about?

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Microdizzey

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it's about Codex Ailmentarius and what they have planned for the next few years.

it has to do with the world population reduction. the woman on the video will explain how Codex was formed and what it does
 

Microdizzey

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Quick question - is this the same Rima Laibow who describes alien abductee victims as suffering from some form of post traumatic stress?
who knows, who cares, it's not about her is it?

"In 1996, the Ecologist magazine revealed that, when the Codex Alimentarius met, the German delegation put forward a proposal, sponsored by three German pharmaceutical firms, that no herb, vitamin or mineral should be sold for preventive or therapeutic reasons, and that supplements should be reclassified as drugs. The proposal was agreed, but protests halted its implementation.[1] The 28th Session of the Codex Alimentarius Commission was subsequently held July 4 - July 9, 2005. [2] Among the many issues discussed were the "Guidelines for Vitamin and Mineral Food Supplements"[3], which were adopted during the meeting as a new global standard. This text has been the subject of considerable controversy, in part because many member countries regulate these substances as therapeutic goods or pharmaceuticals and not as foods (if they were not foods, they would be excluded from the Codex Alimentarius). The text does not seek to ban supplements, but to subject them to dosage, labeling and composition requirements.
The Guidelines have attracted concern from both consumers and industry due to the potential for restrictions on vitamins and minerals as dietary supplements. The health freedom movement has pointed to greater concerns related to restrictions on dietary supplement ingredients in Europe [4] via the European Union's Food Supplements Directive [5] (which utilizes approved lists of ingredients and ingredient forms) and potentially restrictive dosage limits to be based on a Codex model via the Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) and World Health Organization (WHO) Nutrient Risk Assessment Project. [6]
There is also concern that Codex Alimentarius is an infringement on human rights, making Codex illegal under U.S. Constitutional law."

from wiki.
 

email468

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Its all conspiracy theories unless people hear it out of your TV, radio, or news paper. People can be slapped in the face with facts on the internet but unless it comes from the mainstream media than its a conspiracy theory because people now don't know what to believe.

I'll watch your vid micro.. Can you briefly explain what its about?

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

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The problem with the internet is the signal to noise ratio. Otherwise you are just buying into a different kind of bullshit. There is a whole lot of unsubstantiated claims but very little (or none - depending) scientifically acceptable evidence. Things that "sound good" or "feel right" are everywhere - things that are rigorously investigated by experts and non-experts alike are fewer and harder to come by.

And because unscrupulous are not above lying and deceiving, skepticism is warranted.
 

We TaRdED

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And because unscrupulous are not above lying and deceiving, skepticism is warranted.
Undoubtedly... Skepticism is always welcome when any new info is presented as it should be.

My point being is that people can watch WTC7 fall down at free fall speed almost exclusively "because of fire" and still call someone like me a "conspiracy nut" because I question the official story. I guess I just have a little contempt for the other two thirds of the population that doesn't believe 911 was an inside job....(maybe more than 1/3 of the population believes 911 was an inside job ATM...)

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email468

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Undoubtedly... Skepticism is always welcome when any new info is presented as it should be.

My point being is that people can watch WTC7 fall down at free fall speed almost exclusively "because of fire" and still call someone like me a "conspiracy nut" because I question the official story. I guess I just have a little contempt for the other two thirds of the population that doesn't believe 911 was an inside job....(maybe more than 1/3 of the population believes 911 was an inside job ATM...)

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I am not a demolitions expert so couldn't say. I do know you can find an expert claiming just about anything.

I also am no expert on 9/11 and fortunately moved from NYC long before that occurred. But I have watched many, many videos (and even did some reading) and remain unconvinced it was an "inside job". The most damning thing I would be willing to say is there is very good evidence that there were some folks who knew what was going to happen (or at least had a good idea) and probably could have prevented it.

But if you are saying the US gov't blew up the towers or shot missiles or whatever - in my opinion, the evidence isn't very good at all.

This is the same gov't that couldn't hide the fact that a past pres got a BJ in the oval office and the current pres allows torture of detainees - you think they can cover up their responsibility for the largest terrorist act on US soil? I mean skeptically speaking... that doesn't really add up.
 

We TaRdED

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Its cool email:mrgreen:

I know you are fact based on most everything you say. I appreciate that, along with others.

Heres the first question that comes to my mind- "Why didn't the pentagon release vids of the plane crash? Also, why did the FBI take the neighboring gas stations vid recording of the crash(the vid was released after a lawsuit)? Whats your scientific based opinion behind that one? You do have opinions right ;-)
YouTube - Here's something the government didn't want you to see


I am not a demolitions expert so couldn't say. I do know you can find an expert claiming just about anything.

I also am no expert on 9/11 and fortunately moved from NYC long before that occurred. But I have watched many, many videos (and even did some reading) and remain unconvinced it was an "inside job". The most damning thing I would be willing to say is there is very good evidence that there were some folks who knew what was going to happen (or at least had a good idea) and probably could have prevented it.

But if you are saying the US gov't blew up the towers or shot missiles or whatever - in my opinion, the evidence isn't very good at all.

This is the same gov't that couldn't hide the fact that a past pres got a BJ in the oval office and the current pres allows torture of detainees - you think they can cover up their responsibility for the largest terrorist act on US soil? I mean skeptically speaking... that doesn't really add up.
 

email468

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Its cool email:mrgreen:

I know you are fact based on most everything you say. I appreciate that, along with others.

Heres the first question that comes to my mind- "Why didn't the pentagon release vids of the plane crash? Also, why did the FBI take the neighboring gas stations vid recording of the crash(the vid was released after a lawsuit)? Whats your scientific based opinion behind that one? You do have opinions right ;-)
YouTube - Here's something the government didn't want you to see
Honestly? I don't know why they didn't release the videos. Maybe they were afraid people would make up all kinds of stuff regarding the footage (haha).

I am not a scientist studying the crash site. You'd have to rely on them. (I mean the ones actually studying the site - not the ones doing armchair science like you and I).
 

hom36rown

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Im definitely against codex alimentarius, I just dont know if I believe the whole tap water aspartame thing...by the way ron paul wouldnt let codex alimentarius happen.


The House of Representatives is scheduled to vote on the Central American Free Trade Agreement in the next two weeks, and one little-known provision of the agreement desperately needs to be exposed to public view. CAFTA, like the World Trade Organization, may serve as a forum for restricting or even banning dietary supplements in the U.S.
The Codex Alimentarius Commission, organized by the United Nations in the 1960s, is charged with “harmonizing” food and supplement rules between all nations of the world. Under Codex rules, even basic vitamins and minerals require a doctor’s prescription. The European Union already has adopted Codex-type regulations, regulations that will be in effect across Europe later this year. This raises concerns that the Europeans will challenge our relatively open market for health supplements in a WTO forum. This is hardly far-fetched, as Congress already has cravenly changed our tax laws to comply with a WTO order.
Like WTO, CAFTA increases the possibility that Codex regulations will be imposed on the American public. Section 6 of CAFTA discusses Codex as a regulatory standard for nations that join the agreement. If CAFTA has nothing to do with dietary supplements, as CAFTA supporters claim, why in the world does it specifically mention Codex?
Unquestionably there has been a slow but sustained effort to regulate dietary supplements on an international level. WTO and CAFTA are part of this effort. Passage of CAFTA does not mean your supplements will be outlawed immediately, but it will mean that another international trade body will have a say over whether American supplement regulations meet international standards. And make no mistake about it, those international standards are moving steadily toward the Codex regime and its draconian restrictions on health freedom. So the question is this: Does CAFTA, with its link to Codex, make it more likely or less likely that someday you will need a doctor’s prescription to buy even simple supplements like Vitamin C? The answer is clear. CAFTA means less freedom for you, and more control for bureaucrats who do not answer to American voters.
Pharmaceutical companies have spent billions of dollars trying to get Washington to regulate your dietary supplements like European governments do. So far, that effort has failed in America, in part because of a 1994 law called the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act. Big Pharma and the medical establishment hate this Act, because it allows consumers some measure of freedom to buy the supplements they want. Americans like this freedom, however – especially the health conscious Baby Boomers.
This is why the drug companies support WTO and CAFTA. They see international trade agreements as a way to do an end run around American law and restrict supplements through international regulations.
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[/FONT]The largely government-run health care establishment, including the nominally private pharmaceutical companies, want government to control the dietary supplement industry – so that only they can manufacture and distribute supplements. If that happens, as it already is happening in Europe, the supplements you now take will be available only by prescription and at a much higher cost – if they are available at all. This alone is sufficient reason for Congress to oppose the unconstitutional, sovereignty-destroying CAFTA bill.
 

We TaRdED

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"Im definitely against codex alimentarius,"

Me too... I'm all set with asking my doctor for a prescription for some multivitamins. Whats next, will I need a prescription to buy some orange juice because it also contains vitamins? This is what I think of :spew: Codex

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Crumbles

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Politics is a game of distraction. why do you think gay marriage suddenly became such a big issue..

you just know what you believe and what you believe is up to you. the knowledge is out there. anything youd hope to ever know is always a voice away wether its your local pastor or the homeless man rambling to himself. its just to your perspective on the universe..

ive read enough books and websites, watched enough videos from every angle of every arguement. theres just so much stuff out there and so much stuff going on.. i sometimes find myself thirsting for more but i always seem to find that locked door you just can never open.

shits crazy if you just kick back and think about..
 

Philly_Buddah

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I know for a fact that the government is hiding a shitload of stuff from us. Im talking a LOT of stuff. They just dont want the people to see it. There is a small group of people that run everything in the world and control all the mainstream media, so if they dont want us to see something then we dont see it, period. I wouldnt even be surprised if the government is working with aliens or something. I dont know man, I know the government isnt telling the truth but all this stuff is getting me confused, probably because of all the flouride Im drinking in my water its dumbing me down.
 

Microdizzey

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try not to worry about it. yea it's scary as hell what could happen soon.
but hey, good always prevails. always has.
 
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