Having faith means you don't have to think critically about the things that need critical thought the most.Sorry, I can't agree with that last part. It totally depends on the person and where you are comfortable in life. All they have is faith, true. But all you have is a lack of faith. Same thing, no? Depends on how you wanna look at it i guess, perspective is reality and perspective is subject to change in each person as an individual as well as culture and society as a whole.
True that. I'm done with this thread. I never knew atheists were such a hateful bunch. I thought this could be an enlightening adult conversation...I guess I should of known better.Whatever you say bud
You should have known better, but you didn't.True that. I'm done with this thread. I never knew atheists were such a hateful bunch. I thought this could be an enlightening adult conversation...I guess I should of known better.
Yeah you been cool Moutain Spliff. I just don't like the people who says things like people who believe in God are dumbasses or religion is for weak-minded people or santa and God are the same person, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc.whats so hateful
I guess your right. But, for people who believe whole-heartedly and love God dearly, such as myself. Saying something deragatory about God is like saying, 'Fuck yo momma' lol. So I do tend to get a bit offended. But, everybody is entitled to their own opinion. So, if you believe God and santa are the same guy then that is just your opinion and it's all good. I'll try not to be so sensitive. Let the conversation continueI think is very good and thought provoking thread. I think we should be able criticize each other beliefs just as we would if we were dicussing politics. Religion should not be out of bounds of discourse. And sure some people might go a little far call names a little bit and you might be offended..........but don't be offended by the discussion. I think the majority of this thread as been rather civil. If beliefs are True then their should be no fear of others challenging those beliefs
I guess your right. But, for people who believe whole-heartedly and love God dearly, such as myself. Saying something deragatory about God is like saying, 'Fuck yo momma' lol. So I do tend to get a bit offended. But, everybody is entitled to their own opinion. So, if you believe God and santa are the same guy then that is just your opinion and it's all good. I'll try not to be so sensitive. Let the conversation continue
Haha lmao. Thanks for clearing that up Natrone...I appreciate thatyeah God and Santa Claus is same guy........but I wasn't talking about your God............just some foreigners God
I don't think religious people are dumbasses and I don't hate them. The members of my family are very religious people. I just think there are better ways of deciding things than relying on faith. The example I used of little kids was crude but still valid. When those things happen to little kids, many people just think it is God's will. Theologically and philosophically, that is the 'problem of evil'. The problem of if a benevolent higher power exists, how could he let those things happen? Does he just not care? Is it free will? etc.Yeah you been cool Moutain Spliff. I just don't like the people who says things like people who believe in God are dumbasses or religion is for weak-minded people or santa and God are the same person, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc.
were did god come from
We can only partially comprehend the notion of God's existence. To do so, we must use human concepts to speak of God: "without beginning or end"; "eternal"; "infinite", etc. The Bible says that He has always existed: " . . . even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God" (Psalm 90:2). And, "Your throne is established from of old; Thou art from everlasting" (Psalm 93:2). Quite simply, God has no beginning and no end. So, where did God come from? He didn't. He always was. To us, the notion of time is linear. One second follows the next, one minute is after another. We get older, not younger and we cannot repeat the minutes that have passed us by. We have all seen the time lines on charts: early time is on the left and later time is on the right. We see nations, people's lives, and plans mapped out on straight lines from left to right. We see a beginning and an end. But God is "beyond the chart." He has no beginning or end. He simply has always been. Also, physics has shown that time is a property that is the result of the existence of matter. Time exists when matter exists. Time has even been called the fourth dimension. But God is not matter. In fact, God created matter. He created the universe. So, time began when God created the universe. Before that, God was simply existing and time had no meaning (except conceptually), no relation to Him. Therefore, to ask where God came from is to ask a question that cannot really be applied to God in the first place. Because time has no meaning with God in relation to who He is, eternity is also not something that can be absolutely related to God. God is even beyond eternity.were did god come from