Where to begin........

My bulb came in busted, requested return and ordered another one elsewhere. Aside from that still brain storming a design for my stand/trellises for the plants. I'd like to run 4 plants each time going vert with the 600W MH hanging vertically in my 3x3 that's oversized @ 39"x39"x79"

The Hortilux Gold E-ballast 600W is here already :)
 
Evil-Mobo said:
My bulb came in busted, requested return and ordered another one elsewhere. Aside from that still brain storming a design for my stand/trellises for the plants. I'd like to run 4 plants each time going vert with the 600W MH hanging vertically in my 3x3 that's oversized @ 39"x39"x79"

The Hortilux Gold E-ballast 600W is here already :)
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I believe you can go with 5 plants in that size tent. Be sure to control the heat.
 
gr865 said:
I believe you can go with 5 plants in that size tent. Be sure to control the heat.
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Yes but I'd rather keep it to 4 and have a larger trellis per plant, kind of like a plant per wall of my perfectly square 3x3 and yes controlling heat will be and always is a challenge in my area especially during these summer months.
 
shake&bake said:
@gr865 if you want the highest yield possible you have to veg vertical as well a lot of people will say vert sucks but not vegging vertically is why it will greatly decrease yield.
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Thanks I appreciate the response.

And the reason for vegging vertical is?
Is it to get the branches on the back side of the plant to swing themselves toward the lamp? I am not questioning you at all just need the logic.
 
I'm guessing it has something to do with all the addition nodes created from the light penetrating from the side not the top. Try a side by side if you want I've only ever done small scale mostly CFL. With lights between the plants. It's just what I've always read from journals of those trying for the first time. When they veg horizontal and flower vertical they always say yield sucks and they're going back to flat growing. But when they veg vert and flower vert yield is amazing.

Also if you want to lower heat extraction needs or your electricity bill or both they now make led light bulbs that would work for vert style growing. Just something I've been waiting to try. Unfortunately I'm back living with rents so that will have to wait.
 
shake&bake said:
I'm guessing it has something to do with all the addition nodes created from the light penetrating from the side not the top. Try a side by side if you want I've only ever done small scale mostly CFL. With lights between the plants. It's just what I've always read from journals of those trying for the first time. When they veg horizontal and flower vertical they always say yield sucks and they're going back to flat growing. But when they veg vert and flower vert yield is amazing.

Also if you want to lower heat extraction needs or your electricity bill or both they now make led light bulbs that would work for vert style growing. Just something I've been waiting to try. Unfortunately I'm back living with rents so that will have to wait.
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My last grow was a horzonal sort of SOG, 12 plant total, HPS died about 5 weeks from finish. I have a LED for back up and I added some CFL's in between the plant.
Hard to say how it all worked because I had a bad case of fungal gnats.
I had a pic of it but I took my laptop in to the shop for some work so I downloaded all my MJ pics to a USB drive and lost the fucking drive. Over 4,000 total MJ pics, yrs of work.

GR
 
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shake&bake said:
I'm guessing it has something to do with all the addition nodes created from the light penetrating from the side not the top. Try a side by side if you want I've only ever done small scale mostly CFL. With lights between the plants. It's just what I've always read from journals of those trying for the first time. When they veg horizontal and flower vertical they always say yield sucks and they're going back to flat growing. But when they veg vert and flower vert yield is amazing.

Also if you want to lower heat extraction needs or your electricity bill or both they now make led light bulbs that would work for vert style growing. Just something I've been waiting to try. Unfortunately I'm back living with rents so that will have to wait.
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Can you please point me to one of these Corn Cob Led lights that can crank out at least 145000 lumens at 150+ lumen/watt?
 
@OneHitDone no they would work very well for veg but the highest lumens I've seen is around 31,600 135lm/w. I got mine from eBay from ngtled you can get them in almost any k and either e26 or 39 base, the highest watts is 250. I've seen a lux meter pic of one putting out 92k at 4 in so they are bright, and that was one of the lights from Amazon which I own and nowhere near as bright. I just thought they showed promise

I get where your going with this but just figured people could save on cooling bills over the summer with one of these. That's all
 
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shake&bake said:
@OneHitDone no they would work very well for veg but the highest lumens I've seen is around 31,600 135lm/w. I got mine from eBay from ngtled you can get them in almost any k and either e26 or 39 base, the highest watts is 250. I've seen a lux meter pic of one putting out 92k at 4 in so they are bright, and that was one of the lights from Amazon which I own and nowhere near as bright. I just thought they showed promise
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I keep envisioning standing some 6ft heatsinks upright in a circular pattern with small cobs all over the place. And maybe air cooled up the middle.
Mega Corn Cob!! :hump:
 
@Evil-Mobo you know you don't have to train your plants onto a net you can just put them around a bulb. I would assume with topped plants they would just spread wider on a screen versus up.

@OneHitDone i looked into doing just this taking four 3.945in profiles from heat sinks USA and having them milled down and welded together and it was more than I made in a week. I guess I need a better job.
 
shake&bake said:
@Evil-Mobo you know you don't have to train your plants onto a net you can just put them around a bulb. I would assume with topped plants they would just spread wider on a screen versus up.

@OneHitDone i looked into doing just this taking four 3.945in profiles from heat sinks USA and having them milled down and welded together and it was more than I made in a week. I guess I need a better job.
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I know that now but I was not originally planning on these in a vert grow it was a much needed after thought
 
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