Where is Amber??

Dr. Who

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These posts???? Almost everything out there says that Amber is the start of the degrading THC, not scientific but none the less believable. There is so much conflicting shit out there re: canabis, thank god it's basically grows itself.
Budley! I think you missed, when I said this ----

Yes, discoloring to amber is a decomposing of sorts. The idea that it no longer has influence on the high, or the type of high is wrong!
It does create a more sedative effect! You get higher levels of CBD for one- that's more medical compounds!


You should read Riddles posts on just what "amber" is! You guys are missing the whole point we're trying to make!

WOW! I thought more people understood the difference! TRUE amber !
 
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Budley Doright

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Again does that study not show that the aged glands (translucent) contain the highest concentration of THC? I'm not saying it's more potent because I believe it's the whole profile that matters, not just the THC content.
 

Budley Doright

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Budley! I think you missed, when I said this ----

Yes, discoloring to amber is a decomposing of sorts. The idea that it no longer has influence on the high, or the type of high is wrong!
It does create a more sedative effect! You get higher levels of CBD for one- that's more medical compounds!


You should read Riddles posts on just what "amber" is! You guys are missing the whole point we're trying to make!

WOW! I thought more people understood the difference! TRUE amber !
Ummm no I understand totally, I did say there was a huge difference between true clear Amber and cloudy, that was what was missing throughout this whole thing. Also as I said the true translucent Amber is not indicitive of all, let alone most, strains. Really we should be consentrating on the strains most grow and not ones that very few have ever seen. In that respect the turning to cloudy Amber is THC degradation, does that mean it's gotten less potent ......no, just different, never missed a thing Doc, been saying the same thing for years.
 

Budley Doright

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Budley! I think you missed, when I said this ----

Yes, discoloring to amber is a decomposing of sorts. The idea that it no longer has influence on the high, or the type of high is wrong!
It does create a more sedative effect! You get higher levels of CBD for one- that's more medical compounds!


You should read Riddles posts on just what "amber" is! You guys are missing the whole point we're trying to make!

WOW! I thought more people understood the difference! TRUE amber !
Yes Doc I did miss that :(. Basically everyone is saying the same thing I think lol.
 

Dr. Who

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Ummm no I understand totally, I did say there was a huge difference between true clear Amber and cloudy, that was what was missing throughout this whole thing. Also as I said the true translucent Amber is not indicitive of all, let alone most, strains. Really we should be consentrating on the strains most grow and not ones that very few have ever seen. In that respect the turning to cloudy Amber is THC degradation, does that mean it's gotten less potent ......no, just different, never missed a thing Doc, been saying the same thing for years.
The total contents IS the real point! Just a year or so ago (prob a cpl), it was found that certain terps have a LOT to due with the type and intensity of the buzz! So then, increasing terp profiles is very important too! This is whats got me paying attention to what Odin is saying! He finds better terp profiles and I'm interested in that.......The big influence to "intensity" in my book is UV availability. I'm beginning to feel very strongly that a lot of the "I'm not getting amber" is due to the lacking of HPS in the ultra low spectrum where the UV range sets! I mean HID works, some bulbs better then others. I used to think that the cheaper one's like basic greenhouse industrials (PlantMaxx) were just fine. Yet I see less actual ripening with use of their product over others with some more low end spectrum emission. Using the MH in the last few weeks helps but, NOTHING beats UV, and the use of it all through the run is how Riddle gets his "proper" amber and at the right times! Dual arc bulbs look interesting but, I'm prepping 4' single bulb T5 UV bulbs from EYE Hort on each side of my big hoods as the low end spectrum/UV source for further running coming this fall....It may take bit to rig the whole op as money is tight after the court thing. I was kinda going to show some of that early next year.....Still kinda hinky on posting pics - I'll get some up though...
 
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Budley Doright

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The total contents IS the real point! Just a year or so ago (prob a cpl), it was found that certain terps have a LOT to due with the type and intensity of the buzz! So then, increasing terp profiles is very important too! This is whats got me paying attention to what Odin is saying! He finds better terp profiles and I'm interested in that.......The big influence to "intensity" in my book is UV availability. I'm beginning to feel very strongly that a lot of the "I'm not getting amber" is due to the lacking of HPS in the ultra low spectrum where the UV range sets! I mean HID works, some bulbs better then others. I used to think that the cheaper one's like basic greenhouse industrials (PlantMaxx) were just fine. Yet I see less actual ripening with use of their product over others with some more low end spectrum emission. Using the MH in the last few weeks helps but, NOTHING beats UV, and the use of it all through the run is how Riddle gets his "proper" amber and at the right times! Dual arc bulbs look interesting but, I'm prepping 4' single bulb T5 UV bulbs from EYE Hort on each side of my big hoods as the low end spectrum/UV source for further running coming this fall....It may take bit to rig the whole op as money is tight after the court thing. I was kinda going to show some of that early next year.....Still kinda hinky on posting pics - I'll get some up though...
Can't wait to see what happens Doc, I'm rethinking the light spectrum as well. I also think genetics have a lot to do with the different trich colors and profile.
 

Budley Doright

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The total contents IS the real point! Just a year or so ago (prob a cpl), it was found that certain terps have a LOT to due with the type and intensity of the buzz! So then, increasing terp profiles is very important too! This is whats got me paying attention to what Odin is saying! He finds better terp profiles and I'm interested in that.......The big influence to "intensity" in my book is UV availability. I'm beginning to feel very strongly that a lot of the "I'm not getting amber" is due to the lacking of HPS in the ultra low spectrum where the UV range sets! I mean HID works, some bulbs better then others. I used to think that the cheaper one's like basic greenhouse industrials (PlantMaxx) were just fine. Yet I see less actual ripening with use of their product over others with some more low end spectrum emission. Using the MH in the last few weeks helps but, NOTHING beats UV, and the use of it all through the run is how Riddle gets his "proper" amber and at the right times! Dual arc bulbs look interesting but, I'm prepping 4' single bulb T5 UV bulbs from EYE Hort on each side of my big hoods as the low end spectrum/UV source for further running coming this fall....It may take bit to rig the whole op as money is tight after the court thing. I was kinda going to show some of that early next year.....Still kinda hinky on posting pics - I'll get some up though...
So you don't think it's mostly strain related then, the clear Amber I mean? It would be an interesting side by. Wonder if RM has seen a cloudy Amber turn into a clear Amber just by adding UV, RM???
 

Dr. Who

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So you don't think it's mostly strain related then, the clear Amber I mean? It would be an interesting side by. Wonder if RM has seen a cloudy Amber turn into a clear Amber just by adding UV, RM???
No, I don't...

Hey, @RM3 - Budley has a question, and not about to answer for you. ;-)
 

Budley Doright

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So then yes it is strain dependent then? I have only seen it a few times myself in the last 40 years (all outdoor) but tend to shy away from sats due to indoor and outdoor time restraints, hopefully I'll have enough this fall to allow some extra time :).
 
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