@UncleBuck @Unclebaldrick @SneekyNinja @londonfog @Fogdog
Is what he said true? Do you guys agree with me on everything? Have you never had disagreements with me? Is that why none of you have ever acted like berniebabies towards me?
LOL. There was a classic conflict between us about a year ago when I found your pining for revolution odious. You basically a called me a fat old man who watches TV too much, then left for a while.
On the other hand, I don't see a need to find conflict with AC, we have a lot in common.
I'm coming to the opinion that berniebabies are authoritarian in the anarchist-authoritarian spectrum. Look at
@Padawanbater2 's diatribes. Completely missing is any willingness to compromise or even consider anything other than his ideology. The words "have to", "must" and insults are common when discussing issues with him. I give back, so am not claiming being wounded, just pointing out that he retreats to directing rather than cooperating, which is a universal among berners. For example, the post below, just after the election.
A video was deleted. If you want that thought guide you'll have to go to his original post. I hate thought guides. Berners love 'em. They seem to me to prefer a uniformity and conformity rather than reason. Of course
@abandonconflict draws their ire. He won't tow the line and has coherent counter arguments. Pokes fun at them too.
And that's another characteristic of authoritarians -- the total lack of a sense of humor when their issues are discussed. Boring. I've put one of them on ignore mostly because his posts, filled repetitive demands to conform to his ideas, petty insults and quick to anger over disagreements became repetitive and boring. Boring is the worst.
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- to too many of today's liberals, protecting 'feelings' has become more important than preserving rights
- If liberals want to win back the white house, there are some very important things that must be done;
- In 2018 and 2020, liberals need a 'progressive TEA-Party' that runs populist candidates modeled after Bernie Sanders that can steal primaries from establishment democrats. We have to get them out of there! This political party cannot survive if it's loaded up with corporatist shills. The democrats are supposed to be an alternative to that and right now they're not. The democratic party must become a super-organism that survives on the support of everyday people and eshoo's money from major business interests. Liberals must create and sell a bold vision of America... built around specific policies like making higher education a right to those with the academic acumen to earn it. Like making sure people are employed and that they're being fairly compensated for their work. Like protecting the interests of everyday people above the interests of mega rich multinational corporations. Like fixing our roads and bridges. Like building a national high speed rail system. Like ending our dependence on fossil fuels. Like working on ways to reduce or reverse the CO2 saturation that is harming our environment.
- Kick SJWs to the curb. When ordinary people see liberals wasting our time arguing about pronouns, and turning racial and sexual differences into a grievance culture victim badge for every shitty little cry bully to polish with their own tears, Americans correctly reject the notion that that's what America needs. Liberals need to stop with this culture of coddling weakness and get real. We don't need a bunch of emotionally fragile screeching morons. They're an absolute drain on the liberal platform described earlier. Because according to them, creating a good economy and making sure everyone has healthcare and education is not as important as making sure no one is ever offended by anything that anyone ever says at any time.
- If we want to win, we need tough liberals who are self assured and put forth good ideas with confidence and who are smart enough to defend those ideas in both a pragmatic and a philosophical way. Our current liberal climate of "there there, have a shoulder to cry on" needs to die, needs to go away.
- If someone is so emotionally fragile that they psychologically implode when someone disagrees with them, they don't need a political movement to unite them all under one banner, they need mental health care to teach them how to be tolerant of people who are different.
"we need tough liberals". Well yeah, we all need to stare back and oppose shithead racists, religious bigots and other narrow minded haters. The way Pad describes it, jackboots and aggression and conformity to ideology are paramount, rather than reason and cooperation when a common cause can be identified. I also see minimization of social issues compared economic ones. Environmental issues over social issues too.
From what I read, Bernie is not all that pleased with their radicalization and unwillingness to compromise. Bernie works with people who disagree with him to find common ground. As AC points out, he tried to help heal the divide during the election but couldn't. Now, I'm even hearing complaints that Bernie isn't being enough of what Berners want and they are becoming disaffected with him. Fucking authoritarians. Hate 'em. Left or right.
That said,
@st0wandgrow is not as bad as the others.