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GvegasGrowa

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So it looks like the new growth is actully a little burnt. & then there is a lot of spotting on the leaves.
This is a white widow. Its in my greenhouse with my other girls & its not the only white widow, but it is the only plant with any issues.

So what is it & why only this 1 plant? They all get the same treatment.
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I think in like 10 years this may be my 1st post.
 

BenGman

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I'm honestly gonna take a stab and say flush the pots man and slowly work the nutes back up and add some magnesium, or maybe it's got some sort of disease. Hopefully someone can help you out with more info.
 

HarryCooter

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So it looks like the new growth is actully a little burnt. & then there is a lot of spotting on the leaves.
This is a white widow. Its in my greenhouse with my other girls & its not the only white widow, but it is the only plant with any issues.

So what is it & why only this 1 plant? They all get the same treatment.
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I think in like 10 years this may be my 1st post.
Check your soil ph. I just went through this with my widows.
 

charface

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Not for sure but I had leaf hoppers move in for a few days.
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I also noticed this at the same time
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When I flip the leaf I see this stuff I assume is bug poop or a mildew type something. LolIMG_20180606_104240.jpg
I made an assumption it was the leaf hoppers.

This all coincided with the time I usually spray compost tea.

Whatever it was left and the problem stopped after the foliar tea.

Could all be coincidence.

Also You have more brown spots but maybe you just didn't notice in time to prevent that.
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Sorry, i didn't see the burnt new growth
The first time.
Please ignore me. Lol
 

HarryCooter

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Not for sure but I had leaf hoppers move in for a few days.
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I also noticed this at the same time
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When I flip the leaf I see this stuff I assume is bug poop or a mildew type something. LolView attachment 4147072
I made an assumption it was the leaf hoppers.

This all coincided with the time I usually spray compost tea.

Whatever it was left and the problem stopped after the foliar tea.

Could all be coincidence.

Also You have more brown spots but maybe you just didn't notice in time to prevent that.
That's a good point. Leaf hopper damage looks very similar. If the newer growth looks fine than they may be the problem, but the damage in first pic does not look like leaf hoppers.
 

*** River Rat ***

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So it looks like the new growth is actully a little burnt. & then there is a lot of spotting on the leaves.
This is a white widow. Its in my greenhouse with my other girls & its not the only white widow, but it is the only plant with any issues.

So what is it & why only this 1 plant? They all get the same treatment.
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I think in like 10 years this may be my 1st post.
I cannot tell you what your problem is.

What I can do is share some info on WW resiliency.
I was given 2 WW clones....1 was smaller than the other.
My 1000w/hps was too close to the taller plant plus the fan blowing over the canopy was too strong .
Heat stress and wind burn.....lots of tacoing .
i thought I was going to lose that plant. The shorter one was not affected.

That cooked girl stagnated....even though I figured out and fixed the problem 1 month into bloom cycle
I never thought she'd come back.
I was wrong....she;s a fighter !! Looked a little ugly for rest of the grow...but still a decent plant.
I'm harvesting both WW's tomorrow.....happy they survived !!

The 1st pic is the one I cooked.....the 2nd pic is the little girl grown up !
A very hardy plant that WW !!

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GvegasGrowa

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Inside in New England too....neighbor !
Check your soil ph. I just went through this with my widows.
So I checked my ph. Most plants are 7-7.2. My white widows are at 6.8 & the 1 with the problem is at 6.6.

Thats pretty good imo. So I don't know... Still trying to figure it out. I think it might be spreading a little. So I flushed hoping that would help.
 

AzSunshine

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I need help i dont know why the lower leaves on my plant are turning yellow while the top which is still vegging really good. its staying a darker green .
 

HarryCooter

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I need help i dont know why the lower leaves on my plant are turning yellow while the top which is still vegging really good. its staying a darker green .
It's nitrogen deficiency. You need to feed it more nitrogen.

So I checked my ph. Most plants are 7-7.2. My white widows are at 6.8 & the 1 with the problem is at 6.6.

Thats pretty good imo. So I don't know... Still trying to figure it out. I think it might be spreading a little. So I flushed hoping that would help.
Your PH sounds good. My widows, more specifically one pheno, is super sensitive to ph and showed damage at 7.4 in a matter of a few hours. Ive never seen something that sensitive in soil before. Ive been adding small amounts of sulfur to the soil and foliar feeding calmag and micros which has seemed to solve the problem. Mag deficiency/lockout is what usually causes a lot of the damage with ph issues. We'll see as the grow continues. Where are your cuts/seeds from?
 

GvegasGrowa

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It's nitrogen deficiency. You need to feed it more nitrogen.



Your PH sounds good. My widows, more specifically one pheno, is super sensitive to ph and showed damage at 7.4 in a matter of a few hours. Ive never seen something that sensitive in soil before. Ive been adding small amounts of sulfur to the soil and foliar feeding calmag and micros which has seemed to solve the problem. Mag deficiency/lockout is what usually causes a lot of the damage with ph issues. We'll see as the grow continues. Where are your cuts/seeds from?
These are seedman's widows. Been running them for years.
 

AzSunshine

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It's nitrogen deficiency. You need to feed it more nitrogen.



Your PH sounds good. My widows, more specifically one pheno, is super sensitive to ph and showed damage at 7.4 in a matter of a few hours. Ive never seen something that sensitive in soil before. Ive been adding small amounts of sulfur to the soil and foliar feeding calmag and micros which has seemed to solve the problem. Mag deficiency/lockout is what usually causes a lot of the damage with ph issues. We'll see as the grow continues. Where are your cuts/seeds from?
well I know it's way out there but could fish tank water actually help with the nitrogen deficiency cuz I know fish water has a lot of nitrogen phosphorus and a couple other things in it that help out what do you think about this idea
 

JohnDee

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Gvegas Growa,
Just wanted to follow along to see what happens. I'm a WW grower too...though not at the moment. I had a fairly sativa pheno that was not a heavy feeder...but still it needed MG supplementation. That seems to be a common WW trait. But there's something else at work with your plant.

Hope you get it figured out.
JD
 

HarryCooter

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well I know it's way out there but could fish tank water actually help with the nitrogen deficiency cuz I know fish water has a lot of nitrogen phosphorus and a couple other things in it that help out what do you think about this idea
Fresh water, yes. Look at aquaponics. It's just another form of organic growing. As long as you have sufficient beneficials in your soil to break down the nutrients it will work. However, the tank water alone likely won't be enough nutrients to keep your plants happy with a grow medium such as soil. If you want to try the organic route, I would suggest trying alternating between that and a tea(brewed) style organic nutrient line such as earth juice grow. Should give you some happy plants.

I should mention I switched from using earth juice last year to Age Old. The Earth Juice just wasn't enough for my large in-ground outdoor plants. I've been very happy with the Age Old.
 
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bezalom

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definitely not N deficiency...almost looks like mag deficiency but what it really looks like is splashed watering spots on leaves that burned

first pic of stem at leaf base looks like beginning of root rot
 

HarryCooter

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definitely not N deficiency...almost looks like mag deficiency but what it really looks like is splashed watering spots on leaves that burned

first pic of stem at leaf base looks like beginning of root rot
The n deficiency is not in response to the original poster. Read through the thread first.
 
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