What will give more yield? 2x600 hps, or 1x1000?

hornedfrog2000

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I am slowly getting everything together to start a perpetual grow like Al B Fucts, and I was wondering what would get me more yield? I know the 1000 watt has more lumens, but the 2 600s would cover more area. The 600s wouldn't penetrate as well, but if you are lolli popping them they wouldn't need to right?

Any thoughts? Thanks.
 

smppro

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somebody correct me if im wrong but doesnt a 1000w put out about 150000 lumens where the 600w puts out about 90000 lumens. So 2 600 would be about 30000 more lumens. 600w are supposed to be the most efficeint and i think you will get plenty of penetration with 600
 

AeroKing

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If you are covering a wider area, 2 x600s will give more even coverage. If you are shooting for tall plants, the 1000 will give better depth penetration. For your SOG, I'd choose the 600s.
 

Consciousness420

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yepper.. 2x600W is the way to go .. less heat generated.. more efficient energy consumption (lower electricity cost over the long run) and greater coverage area .. the frequency of the light is identical which is really the only thing the plant cares about .. the flux/lumens.. is greater with the 2x600W lights so 'penetration' will be slightly better with the 2x600's .. but shouldn't even matter if you are using mylar or some other reflective material to reflect most of the light in the grow room.. plus the other advantage to this setup is you could get 1 Metal Halide 600W and the other 600W could be a high pressure sodium, using both simultaneously is ideal for trying to get large yields.. good luck
 

GrowTech

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The lumen count doesn't increase with additional lights... So 1 1kwHPS will produce the same lumens as 2 1kwHPS... I would go for the 1000WHPS and put that baby on a light mover for better penetration.
 

AeroKing

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The lumen count doesn't increase with additional lights...
The thing is though, Lumens GREATLY diminish as the distance from the light increases. If you have one light in the middle, you will need to raise it quite a bit above the canopy to get coverage of the entire area or use a light mover as growtech stated.

Now, what I've never really understood is how you would determine how the intermittent light from a 1000 on a light mover would compare to the same total usable full-time light from 2 stationary 600s. There has to be an effect of the intensity of light fluctuating, right? As opposed to always hitting it full strength?

To me, Penetration would describe depth penetration: how far into the canopy the light will reach.
Coverage would describe the area that the light would reach on a plane.
And even with SOG/lolly, it appears to me that depth penetration is still very important, up until a point of diminishing returns (light wasted right through the bottom of the canopy).

you could get 1 Metal Halide 600W and the other 600W could be a high pressure sodium, using both simultaneously is ideal for trying to get large yields
If you didn't have them on a light mover, you would have uneven coverage. One side would be getting more red light, the other more blue light. I suppose that with the "dual spectrum" hoods, the lamps are probably close enough to minimize this issue, but with 2 seperate hoods, it would be expressed.
 

rezo

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heres a way we can figure this out..............you get x? yield from a 1000w light. you get y? yield from a 600w light.so if x is 1lb any y is .75 lb. you would get 1.5 lb with 2 600s you would increase yield by 50%.
 

forseti

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heres a way we can figure this out..............you get x? yield from a 1000w light. you get y? yield from a 600w light.so if x is 1lb any y is .75 lb. you would get 1.5 lb with 2 600s you would increase yield by 50%.
No, yield is certainly not going to be linear. Double the lights doesn't mean double the yield.
 

rezo

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do the math dude if you have two lights you have two grows basically side by side. double the grow double the yield
 

forseti

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The only way adding an additional light is going to double his yield (in this scenario) is if he adds more plants. If he has the same amount of plants in the same amount of area; 2 lights is not going to double the yield over 1 light.
 

Token

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I am slowly getting everything together to start a perpetual grow like Al B Fucts, and I was wondering what would get me more yield? I know the 1000 watt has more lumens, but the 2 600s would cover more area. The 600s wouldn't penetrate as well, but if you are lolli popping them they wouldn't need to right?

Any thoughts? Thanks.
Two 600watts, less heat more coverage. Best of luck
 

hornedfrog2000

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I really want to do 2x1000s, but the watts start to really add up. Is there anywhere that has like 800 watt lights? And I like the idea of having 1 MH, and 1 Hps.
 

Token

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can any one give us some info on some grows that had one 1000w vs two 600w lights and what they yeilded
yeah, 4 600's out yielded 2 1000s, it was all different strains but the 600's did there job.... they were digital ballast tho.
 
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