What is the point of initial low concentration of nutes in EZCloners?

This is a question for those that root clones in EZcloner - If you do, what is the point of using low nutrient solutions in your cloner before root formation?


I’ve been working with some growers recently that have told me that they as a part of their cloning process they add in products like RapidStart, KLN, or liquid CloneX nutrients right into the res with freshly cut clones. When I sit down to calculate the ppm of these nutrients it’s <90ppm which is hella low. I can’t imagine that people are trying to feed the clones because they’ve got no roots. I would ask said growers but I really can’t as a part of my consulting work.


The only reason I can imagine that people would add nutes is for osmotic pressure, and so that the new roots have something to ‘chew on’ when they form. I imagine once you got a lot of roots you then step it up to a real nutrient solution at 400ppm

No need to add anything, I find plain, non PH'ed, straight tap water works just fine.

I used to use a DIY cloner that was basically the same thing as an EZ Cloner and all I ever used was straight tap water.

I have never seen a difference. I only use clonex because I have it still. It's also great for seedlings. Gives them an early boost with no danger of burning

Let me preface this by saying I use straight well water
But
This is supposed to be the premier mix for aero cloners
I have not actually tried it but would be curious as to others results
https://www.permaclone.com/blogs/news/game-changing-cloner-recipes

With those that use straight water what kind of rooting times are you getting? Like 10-12 days before transplanting?

For my set up I plan on 14 days.

@Rubisco456 , post your roots here when you get em'

good luck

Herb & Suds said:

Let me preface this by saying I use straight well water
But
This is supposed to be the premier mix for aero cloners
I have not actually tried it but would be curious as to others results
https://www.permaclone.com/blogs/news/game-changing-cloner-recipes

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I don't know how it's game changing or why the need for adding all that stuff. I was getting 100% success rate using just tap water. How can you improve upon that? It seems with cannabis many seem to think you need to add this, that, and another thing to end up with the same result you do without adding anything.

Reminds me of those that follow some overcomplicated 12 step method for starting seeds when all you need to do is plant the damn thing and give it water. If it's viable it will sprout.

xtsho said:

I don't know how it's game changing or why the need for adding all that stuff. I was getting 100% success rate using just tap water. How can you improve upon that? It seems with cannabis many seem to think you need to add this, that, and another thing to end up with the same result you do without adding anything.

Reminds me of those that follow some overcomplicated 12 step method for starting seeds when all you need to do is plant the damn thing and give it water. If it's viable it will sprout.

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You are preaching to the choir

Rubisco456 said:

With those that use straight water what kind of rooting times are you getting? Like 10-12 days before transplanting?

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It varies plant to plant

8 days normally, tap water & 1 aspirin. No nutes until planting.

Herb & Suds said:

You are preaching to the choir

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I know.