What is the difference between SHATTER, WAX, OIL, BUDDER?

qwizoking said:

Well everything has been said...oh well here goes 1 more time. The differences between butane iso co2 etoh and anything I forgot is minimal after the processing you end up with "pure" thc and crap.. The more washes you do the less flavorfull, for example I prefer the qwiso method then winterizing with etoh then doin a super saturated saline/hexane wash to remove the last of impurities.

Really the difference is ease of smoking (butter) and taste.budder unlike amber still has waxes and icky lipids that can make the smoke harsher and congest your lungs...

Just my 2cents

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dowork123 said:

Why is everyone saying you have to winterize bho to turn it to shatter....just blow your oil, be gentle with it as the initial tane purges off and the vac purge that bitch on a low constant heat. It will shatter as long as your material is pure, it isn't overheated, it isn't whipped and it's fully vac purged. Heat and lack of purge keep my oils less stable in my experience.

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Twitch. said:

your posting this up with a simple explanation on how to do something thinking that we havent already possibly tried that

https://www.rollitup.org/concentrates-extracts/624465-bho-vacuum-oil-wax-tutorial.html

a few people on the forums have put this together read it to catch up, other wise welcome to the site

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Twitch. said:

becuase there are still fats waxes and lipids in it.....

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vacpurge said:

yes, we know that it doesnt need to be winterized to be shatter.... thats very very basic. most of my vac purged oils end up being shatter...

and im also not a fan of wax/budder, nor am I fan of the rock hard shatter glass stuff that makes shards and crumbs.

my fav texture is the taffy stuff.... it will stretch and bend until you go quick, then its a clean snap. no shards flying all over the place wasting oil and making stuff sticky.

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Twitch. said:

*slaps face* i am the dick ..... your shatter isnt pure like winterized shatter just because you can see through it doesn't mean it doesn't contain 20 to 30 % fats waxes and lipids.

so you say that you dont need to winterize it, yea maybe for yourself. but if you going to come in here and say that you dont see the point in winterizing and then describe your technique and the make comments after words like "It will shatter as long as your material is pure" what does this mean??? actually everyone around here would agree that the higher quality stuff waxes up almost immediately (i understand your not talking about waxing but we are talking about quality)...... even with bomb ass fresh flowers you still need to winterized to get the fats waxes and lipids out.
the reason i feel the need to rip ur ass is because you stated that you do not see the need to winterize because you can make shatter just fine, and i am saying your shatter isnt the same as winterized shatter.

so now that you have been informed that there is a difference between the two, do some some reading and try out winterizing and tell me you dont see a night and day difference.

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AlGore said:

Just throwing in my two cents. I don't make bho, I get my shatter from the shops, but I've read up on the process quite a bit. I believe what he is trying to say is that "Shatter" is a near absolute of thc, and that it is in-fact possible to run an extraction with enough purity to create hard cracking shatter without having to "polish" it with a polar solvent(eg. winterizing).

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Twitch. said:

*slaps face hard*
ill start off by addressing the topic, you still need a secondary solvent to get an absolute, no if ands or buts about it.
second
you do not make bho there for you have no idea what the actually process is and the variables that can alter you oil completely, i have read alot of the write ups in high times and on other sites and non of them have the info that alot of us have already done time and time and time again and posted these results and then someone else will do it with the same results, what i am getting at is bho is still very much a mystery, but i believe a lot of info involving bho and its variables and fickleness are on this site.
third
if you noticed he shut the fuck up
forth
really algore as a screen name couldnt come up with a better one then the inventor of the internet

no you dont need to polish it to make cracking hard shatter, and also polished stuff can wax up too, we have had a couple of people on here do it, i bet you thought the reason it waxed up was because of the plant waxes in the bho.... thats because you have been "read up on the process" and not actually doing the process. i would bet money the so called absolute you get isnt an absolute

do some reading in the link posted above that i told him to read so you can catch up to the rest of the class too

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AlGore said:

if-fact possible to produce a pure product(80%+) without winterizing.

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AlGore said:

The stuff I get is from top notch dependencies that get it from well known concentrate producers that use professional lab environments and processes. I don't buy the bull-shit "wax" or "taffy" or even the "de-waxed","trim", or "full plant" shatter. I get the "Flower" shatter and it is like glass even on hot days.

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Twitch. said:

never said you couldn't son, you must be hearin things boy i never said, i say i never said that... in fact i have other post where i say thats about what you get with bho https://www.rollitup.org/concentrates-extracts/735923-ok-so-whats-big-dealz.html look at post number 9 dick
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i am a dick and i find no validity to your post whats so ever, i assure you this thread has been covered more times then i can count in the short time that i have been an active member here. if i was really hi-jacking it i assure you some one would be in here chewing my ass out.

and how do you know your getting stuff that was made with flower? did the guy that you where giving the money to tell you that it was all that and a bag of potato chips? or did you sit there for 12 hours and watch them make it?

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Twitch. said:

ignorance is bliss
this thread was buried 2 months deep in this mess can it stay there this time?

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