What is the difference between SHATTER, WAX, OIL, BUDDER?

this is fucking pathetic. every time i try to research these lesser known facts about weed and concentrates, the forums invariably turn towards arguments with one another. i just want to know the EXACT differences between BHO and WAX. i clicked through 4 pages of idiots taking shots at each other.

Both of your products apparently suck terribly…

Why? because they don't even get you medicated enough to avoid simple keyboard rage.

lol...
wax is bho succumbed to nucleation and cavitation

avitas said:

this is fucking pathetic. every time i try to research these lesser known facts about weed and concentrates, the forums invariably turn towards arguments with one another. i just want to know the EXACT differences between BHO and WAX. i clicked through 4 pages of idiots taking shots at each other.

Both of your products apparently suck terribly…

Why? because they don't even get you medicated enough to avoid simple keyboard rage.

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Not your fault, but if you would go past the first 4 pages....

I think I nailed it..

Do you need footnotes?
*Not being sarcastic*

I think this was on page 5..

Sirdabsalot462 said:

I was thinking since this happens to get so many views with peeps googling this subject.

Why not add some pictures to display each term..

Shatter

Wax

Honeycomb Wax

Budder *good example 1st*

Budder*poor example*oxidized and contaminated with atmospheric contaminants, The first pic is the same material except a month later.

Brittle Honey Comb*shatters at room temp*

Oil uh...generalized term for all the above, but usually thinner in consistency and a” raw” appearance, I don't have an accurate pic to depict this..

Sap

Ice Wax @70u

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If you would like BRIEF explanation on how each is made and what differentiates one from the other, I'd be happy to do so.

But, I feel like you called us pathetic?

So maybe I will, maybe I won't.

lmao......
whats funny is the amount of hits this page gets.

But i still dont know the answer lol !

I'll nutshell it for ya, the difference is consistency and the customers willingness to pay more for one consistency over the other...

If you don't know the answer at this point you aren't paying any attention..... This thread is old and long, and has alot of conflict in it, but the OP has been answered correctly multiple times.

The answer is very simple the various names for the different concentrates are basically just descriptions of their texture. There are different ways to get these textures, and there are many lovely different concentrates. But just like the pictures that Sir dabs posted so nicely show very well. Its all just various forms/textures.

Wax- drier crumblier texture when broken up
shatter- is a solid at room temp and will shatter when tapped or flexed
budder- has a smoother thick texture which can vary greatly but is often similar to peanut butter
oil- this is a more general term used for everything, but may also refer to a more fluid, oily textured concentrate
taffy- will stretch when pulled slowly but snaps when pulled quickly
beach sand- has a powdery sandy texture

I don't know if I forgot any but Hope that helps.

Sometimes sarcasm is lost when typing. ..... lol thanks for filling me in tho

especially when it's particularly dry

I'm sure there are people still confused, post wasn't ment for you...

there shouldn't have been any questions after Sir Dabs post, but alas the human race never ceases to amaze me.

to be able to call a shatter a SHATTER.. what temps should a shatter be able to handle and still be a solid product?

Twitch. said:

yea its not and we manage to still put together grow rooms that put some of yalls grows to shame. i have put out wax that i have had people in med states beg me to send them and still paid texas prices to get it becuase the shit yall have in yall medical facilities is crap and they are in it entirely for profit. low balling people on bows of kill for 700 and 800 dollars its a disgrace if you actually ask me. i maybe on the black market aspect but at least i am not a dishonest snake in the grass like half of the dispensaries out there.

i am sure there are cool people at them but they are set up to make money dont kid yourself and also almost all of them cant grow enough in house so they have to buy it from people that walk in off the street.

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thats the shitty thing.. is anyone who opens a dispensary isnt in it for the community.. ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY MAN.. i know more respectable drug dealers then i do dispensary owners.. that should tell u alot..

I would say at the very minimum room temp, so about 75 degrees. I've had stuff that would melt some if I took it outside when it was 90 out, and i've had some that stayed hard even at those temps.

JointOperation said:

thats the shitty thing.. is anyone who opens a dispensary isnt in it for the community.. ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY MAN.. i know more respectable drug dealers then i do dispensary owners.. that should tell u alot..

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I wont lie I want to make money, but i wont do it by screwing people over or selling an inferior product when i can obtain better.

everyone wants to make money.. but Quality will always make money.. and reputation is key in this business and almost EVERY BUSINESS out there.

dowork123 said:

Why is everyone saying you have to winterize bho to turn it to shatter....just blow your oil, be gentle with it as the initial tane purges off and the vac purge that bitch on a low constant heat. It will shatter as long as your material is pure, it isn't overheated, it isn't whipped and it's fully vac purged. Heat and lack of purge keep my oils less stable in my experience.

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for an absolute shatter.. u winterize.. losing the terpenes u lose in winterizing.. and gettin rid of the waxes can really help to make a STABLE SHATTER.. even in your hand.. with heat is still solid.. and i mean its hard as a rock glass.. remember terpenes cause a runnier product.. so while winterizing your losin some terps. which helps it become more solid.. same with gettin rid of the waxs an shit. and when u smoke a winterized shatter thats rock hard.. its soo smooth .. no coughfest.. its nice.. but i rather use a few dishes and not winterize a smaller batch of purer oil. to save the terpenes .

thats what ive found out.. ive made a sappy taffy hard shatter.. but once i held it in my pocket or hand it turned to pull and snap taffy .. and after i winterized this batch.. its ROCK HARD. so hard u can pulverize it into a powder..

its all about vacuuming purging your product and the temps your using, I make rock hard shatter amber glass so ..as JOINT OPERATION said WINTERIZE, my shatter looks like amber glass rock hard, u can crush it into little splinters.

Point the end of your bho pipe, or your jar into a glass dish, put all of the butane mixed with cannabis in this dish. make sure theres not shit floating in it and that you did a good clean job.

-disclaimer-
the following will probably ruffle your feathers a bit if you like to be the one who knows the best wisdom


Leave it the hell alone for a week. dont do it in a cup or a shot glass, do it in a glass pan and make sure it has the maximum surface area possible.

dont argue with me just blow your work in the glass pan and leave it alone for a week, send a picture of the results and the inappropriate reasoning you used to conclude that the shatter in your pan isnt shatter


you guys that know like to keep secrets and you guys that dont know like to chase people who deceive you