what is the best way to keep deer away

cowboylogic

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well i'm a fisherman too so I would not suggest the creosote, unless you enjoy doing your part in poisoning the ground water.

there are other methods that will work just as well and better w/o having to use that nasty shit.

creative idea though, i would have never thought of it.
How does creosote harm the ground water? Its nothing more than concentrated pine pitch. And I have found mothball flakes spread around your patch works well. You can even put it right around the plant. Nothing in it at all that will harm your plants. And its cheap and easy to find. Once they start putting on some resin critters will shy away anyways.
 

Robert Paulson

Active Member
It actually really doesn't unless it were highly concentrated and in very large quantities. it is however a carcinogen (will cause cancer) to humans, which makes me guess it wouldn't be too good for wildlife.

In all reality your car does more damage to the ground water than any creosote you might be using. He said he got the idea from a farmers almanac, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be doing anything to hurt there soil, so I was wrong.
 

cowboylogic

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It actually really doesn't unless it were highly concentrated and in very large quantities. it is however a carcinogen (will cause cancer) to humans, which makes me guess it wouldn't be too good for wildlife.

Its all good. In all reality your car does more damage to the ground water than any creosote you might be using. He said he got the idea from a farmers almanac, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be doing anything to hurt there soil, so I was wrong.
I am a farmer, and you are right, we do not want to harm the ground water. The pitch that is available to the public and us farmers is wood based pitch. About the biggest real issue with it is how to wash it off once its on you. You expose yourself to more harmfull things with the solvents some use to remove it. Now coal tar based pitch is a different story. Quite regulated and only available with a license. Even then to really harm the ground water, it would need to be a concentrated spill above a somewhat shallow aquafer to cause harm. The amount from a pile of railraod ties or the spread out poles. As far a we know now, no worries. Edit: Oh ya, I have seen Deer licking old ties before. And porcupines seem to love to snack on them.
 

cowboylogic

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Most important, wasnt saying you were wrong. Just wanted to be a bit more clear. Ground water and runoff are a very important topics for me. We farmers did do, and sadly some still do, harm to the lakes and streams near our fields. Over the years with education and modern resources. I would say 85% of us are doing our part to make things better. +rep for being a stand up guy Robert.
 

krowleey

Member
what are they black tail, mulies? go old school and nail a cat to a tree, i know i aid it earlier but it no shit works. they think its a cougar. the rain has also probably been washing the scent away. do you have apple trees in your yard or are these deer stoners?

i assume you are talking about a fake cat?
 

cowboylogic

Well-Known Member
i assume you are talking about a fake cat?
Or possibly a road kill... Unfortunately most of our rural areas are over run with Ferrel animals. There many ways to live trap and humanely dispose of these animals. I am not advocating trap and kill them all. House pets often find their ways into traps. So think twice. But a pelt on a tree, bet it works pretty good. Gonna stink in your garden after a few weeks though. Then either you pull the stinky pelt down, or move your plants. lol Ok, have my flack jacket on now.
 
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