What is the best cloning machine available?
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Lord Dangly Bits
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this is all good info for you, even though i've never heard of the heat pad method, i'm sure it won't hurt.
remember not to get an air bubble in the 45 degree cut of your clone, that is auto death. and keep n mind for the time they are trying to sprout roots, they have to absorb water through their leaves.
keep them under a light where the heat will evaporate the water soon enough not to make them rot, and spray them down a couple times a day.
I followed a guys advice that was exactly like yours once, and I killed two sets of clones in a row. DO NOT MIST THE PLANTS. If you do they have no need to grow roots. I have about 90% success this way. cut the clones at a 45 degree, and then clip off about 50% of all the leafs, cut the square off the ends, put rooting hormone on them if you wish. Then place them in Rapid Rooters, place these in a clone dome, sit this on a heating pad with a towel doubled up between them, make sure to feel the bottom of the tray ever so often for the first 6 hours to make sure it is not getting to hot. Moisten the rapid rooters no more then once a day unless you notice them turning a lighter color. Put a little water in the bottom of them clone dome also.
Last harvest I cut a branch off with a box knife, stuffed it into a rapid rooter with no cloneing gel or anything, put city tap water on it, and placed it under a glass, I only checked it once every three days. It rooted. Most people over water and over mist their clones big time.
ryan miller
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i agree with this guy above. the more i fuckd wth my clone s the sooner they died. the aero cloner (home made preferably) is worrie free, no misting (maybe once a day) no clone gel at all, no heat pad, no dome and they rock out some roots buddy!
ryan miller
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also the 45 cut is hardly a big deal if you score the stem a bit before putting wherever your gonna put it. and i never cut my clones under water or soak them or any of that shit. i stand in my mother room, take a cuttling right off the top of the plant (thats wher its growing most vigourous) fuck you i cant spell-- cut off some lower leaves, trimmed off half the leafs that i keep ( cut off all the fingers to about half there original size) and stuck em staight in to my homemade cloner. they dont every get a chance to wilt, they look better in my aero then they did on the plant.
overfiend
HeavyMetalHippie
scraping the stem a little bit helps promote root growth too. dont go crazy but if you scrape just the outside skin of the stem they seem to root faster where you scrape them. i noticed it took about a week off my cloning time.
also all weed clones different some are faster than others i've got some strains that clone in 1 1/2 week and others that take 3 weeks the only reason i wait is the 3 week stuff tastes incredable
also all weed clones different some are faster than others i've got some strains that clone in 1 1/2 week and others that take 3 weeks the only reason i wait is the 3 week stuff tastes incredable
So how far above the water level do the cut ends sit and is it just the bubbles bursting that wets the stalk?
ryan miller
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1/4 TO 1/2 AN INCH. PRETTY DAM CLOSE
overfiend
HeavyMetalHippie
if you use the same 1 gallon rubbermaid container in the growfaq just fill water to the line in the container.
Thats fine but if i cut clones at 3" 4" and 5" and set them all at the same physical height then 2 of them are gonna be in the water
@ ryan miller, thanks thats the answer i needed mate
I'm in uk so i dont know what rubbermaid are but i'll find a 1 to 2 gallon container tomorrow cos i got pretty much all the other stuff Cheerz guys
Chiser so say
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This thing is bad ass. Simple, cheap, and it works great every time. I just got one last month. I got 100% in ten days with ten inch roots! I found it out of an ad in Cannabis Culture magazine. It was only $99 and I was able to fit 80 clones in mine. The web site suggests 40 to 60 but I crammed 80 in there. Check it out Raft Rooter, you'll be stoked_~
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Jonus
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A new unused clean scalpel blade and some rooting gel. Jiffy's or rockwell work fine. 45 degree cut, rooting gel, then into the holder and under a sealed dome. Mist them with water that is pH'd to 6.0 for the first day. After that just make sure the dome you have them under is misted with moisture.
The trick I have found to getting good healthy clones is not to over mist them for too long or else you will discourage root growth. Secondly and most importantly, keep them air tight for the first 3 or so days. They don't seem to like much CO2, which is abundant in air, for the first part of their life while theyre switching from being attached to a larger plant, to living in a jiffy having to grow their own roots.
They will go through a phase where they look like crap, its the inbetween phase of receiving moisture through the leaves and popping some roots to receive the moisture that way. Don't panic, keep the clone dome misted and keep the lid sealed as much as possible.
Eventually you will see them start to perk up, then its time to allow a little air in, usually at about day 6-7. This means roots are forming and your clones have survived.
What kills clones:
- Not enough misting of leaves in the first day.
- Playing around with them disturbing the root development
- Too much heat to the tops or bottoms
- Too much CO2 in the first few days from cutting
- Throwing them directly under a 400 HiD...
- Fungus from used blades
Things that inhibit clone growth:
- Wrong pH (should be 6.0)
- Taking small clones with tiny leaves
- Taking clones from an extremely stressed or sick mother
- Fucking with the light cycles. 18/6 is about right and is tried and true.
- Continually drenching the jiffy or rockwell cubes
- Too much misting of clones longer than the first few days
- Fertilizing them
- Overdosing them with rooting formulas
DaveTheNewbie
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I built a brainlessly simple system that rocks.
You cant fail to get success with it
https://www.rollitup.org/do-yourself/119183-davethenewbie-dwc-cloner-fast-simple.html
Cost almost nothing too
EDIT : i notice that people always talk about hot to cut a clone, but almost never talk about { nutes / light / light schedule / environment } when talking clones.
Dont nute your clones. Dont bother. Maybe some rooting hormone if you want.
I use 18/6 lighting, alot of people use 24/0
People use fluro lights, I think a Metal Halide will cook it
You cant fail to get success with it
https://www.rollitup.org/do-yourself/119183-davethenewbie-dwc-cloner-fast-simple.html
Cost almost nothing too
EDIT : i notice that people always talk about hot to cut a clone, but almost never talk about { nutes / light / light schedule / environment } when talking clones.
Dont nute your clones. Dont bother. Maybe some rooting hormone if you want.
I use 18/6 lighting, alot of people use 24/0
People use fluro lights, I think a Metal Halide will cook it
ausbud0987
Active Member
get a six pack esky and put glad wrap over the top,then put ontop of your heat pad.works every time!
Chiser Sosay
Member
The Raft Rooter cloning machine is the cheapest and best way to clone plants... period. I've got two of them and I never lose a cutting. I got mine at www.raftrooter.com.
Chiser Sosay
Member
Raft Rooter all the way!!! http://www.raftrooter.com
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