NLXSK1
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The government just hauled in a record 2+ trillion dollars and the debt keeps growing.
Dont see any of that trickling down either...
What do you think is an appropriate raise for someone working minimum wage?
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The government just hauled in a record 2+ trillion dollars and the debt keeps growing.
Dont see any of that trickling down either...
NLXSK1
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Labor produces wealth, wealth trickles down.
Keep practicing, you will get it right some day :]
abandonconflict
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Nobody is suggesting such a high minimum wage. $15 per hour is a good start, but I read somewhere that if wages had kept up with inflation in the last few decades it would be something like $22.
abandonconflict
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You don't seem to get better at all. Wealth trickles up. That is the problem with "trickle down economics" wealth doesn't fucking trickle down like they promised.
Grandpapy
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You don't seem to get better at all. Wealth trickles up. That is the problem with "trickle down economics" wealth doesn't fucking trickle down like they promised.
He's patient.
NLXSK1
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Yes, and the Czars sure made sure that the wealth trickled down under Communism. Mau Tse Tung was great at spreading the cash as well. Boy those societies had a lot to teach us about trickle up economics. If you steal the produce of the labor from the people at the end of a gun with a catchy slogan you can run with it...
Show me all those countries where wealth springs up out of the hands of the people... Those utopian governments where everything is provided and nobody has anything to worry about because the workers have it all taken care of without the need for those damn evil rich people.
UncleBuck
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except for blacks, muslims, mexicans, gays, women, and any other minority who is not a white hetero christian male.
NLXSK1
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If wealth trickles up then pay yourself. Problem solved!!
abandonconflict
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I don't advocate for state socialism. That's your fallacy here. You think that because I criticize capitalism, that I'm coming from a Soviet Communist point of view. Soviet style socialism has historically been an even greater counter revolutionary force than he capitalists the revolution was fought against in the first place.
UncleBuck
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name one business that has ever gone bankrupt due to a minimum wage increase.
just one.
UncleBuck
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don't you oppose abortion?
abandonconflict
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The problem with this is that economic resources and infrastructure are privately owned, thanks to the gov't.
UncleBuck
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then why do you call taxation theft?
NLXSK1
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Is your labor owned? Doesnt your labor create wealth? Using your own logic you can use your labor to create wealth irrespective of infrastructure and economic resources.
'LABOR CREATES ALL WEALTH' - So get right to it boy and create some wealth... Prove that trickle down is bullshit!!! We dont need no steenking buyers!!! Wealth comes from the bottom up!
abandonconflict
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However, economic infrastructure and resources are privately owned. This is probably going to go over your head for a while, it's ok, keep trying and you'll get it. Or I will just smack you over the head with it, like I have every other point tonight since you have been losing this debate.
UncleBuck
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yeah, your return has made this section worse.
you were run off for being endlessly stupid once, do we have to do it again?
do you think you can top some of your old gems, such as:
*forest fires cause global cooling
*we get domestic oil from alberta
*skewed polls
gosh, you had so many dumbass beliefs that i forgot most of them.
UncleBuck
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that type of simple upkeep would make your home the best on the block in apache junction.
NLXSK1
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It really is not a debate, I am simply trying to educate you by leading you along a series of logical paths ending in the same place every time.
If labor creates wealth then the purchase of resources and infrastructure is simple.
Or are you saying that since all infrastructure and resources are privately owned that no person ever being born now or in the future will ever have a chance to create wealth?
Cause you seem to be a bit off the deep end here...
UncleBuck
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less than minimum wage. there are cases in federal court right now from many resorts that ship in third world workers then underpay them.
http://www.oyster.com/articles/44331-the-shocking-truth-about-what-hotel-workers-get-paid/
UncleBuck
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raising the minimum wage is not communism
that kind of idiotic thinking only works on fox news stooges like you, not people who are capable of intelligent thought.
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