What do you know about aliens?

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Nevaeh420

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Those solar roads are a good idea but I believe geothermal would be a better source of energy. And even better than geothermal would be nuclear fusion powered plants.

And as far as free fuel for the vehicles, I would use liquid hydrogen to fuel most of the vehicles.

But this thread is supposed to be about aliens and not solar powered roads. So how about them aliens?

~PEACE~
 
guy incognito

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Stop talking about hydrogen. It is not an energy source. It never will be. We have no access to hydrogen. The hydrogen we have access to is either:

1. part of water, and thus we can extract no energy from it
2. part of a hydrocarbon, and is more useful and contains more energy than stripping the hydrogen out would give us.

The only thing hydrogen will ever be used for is to store energy, end of discussion.

No aliens have ever, or will ever visit earth. And we will never visit an intelligent species somewhere off in space.
 
Nevaeh420

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guy incognito said:
Stop talking about hydrogen. It is not an energy source. It never will be. We have no access to hydrogen. The hydrogen we have access to is either:

1. part of water, and thus we can extract no energy from it
2. part of a hydrocarbon, and is more useful and contains more energy than stripping the hydrogen out would give us.

The only thing hydrogen will ever be used for is to store energy, end of discussion.

No aliens have ever, or will ever visit earth. And we will never visit an intelligent species somewhere off in space.
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Hydrogen is still a great fuel. It might not be a source of energy but as you stated, its a great way to store energy. I would turn as much ocean water into hydrogen as possible. I would than run all the vehicles off of hydrogen too and that would be the end of the ALLEGED global warming.

And as far as aliens go, I beg to differ on the subject of whether they have visited or not. From My personal experience, I would have to say that the aliens have visited. Or at least I saw the UFOs and that being that I've been talking about in this thread. If that wasn't an alien encounter than I don't know what would be one.

For you to say "we will never visit an intelligent species somewhere off in space" is ludicrous because you certainly don't know that. We might not need to go far to "visit" aliens in space because they could be in our own solar system or even have bases on earth.

~PEACE~
 
Beefbisquit

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I think electric vehicles are the way of the future. There's so many different ways to produce electricity, and there's new materials that would allow charging in minutes as opposed to hours, we just need to make the technology cheaper before it becomes viable.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/20/tech/whiz-kid

Removing the need to make fuel stops altogether would be the best thing, IMO. Charging from the roads or wireless transmission from under the road.... Or if you had a wireless receiver built into the underside of the car, and utilized the fast charging technology, you could position the charging spots in the road, in strategic locations, for small stretches, say 500m or so, and it could give you a ~25% charge while you were driving on that stretch.

We already have wireless charging tech, and we now have super capacitors that can receive high amounts of current in very short periods of time - come of science, get on it! lol
 
NietzscheKeen

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Beefbisquit said:
I think electric vehicles are the way of the future. There's so many different ways to produce electricity, and there's new materials that would allow charging in minutes as opposed to hours, we just need to make the technology cheaper before it becomes viable.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/20/tech/whiz-kid

Removing the need to make fuel stops altogether would be the best thing, IMO. Charging from the roads or wireless transmission from under the road.... Or if you had a wireless receiver built into the underside of the car, and utilized the fast charging technology, you could position the charging spots in the road, in strategic locations, for small stretches, say 500m or so, and it could give you a ~25% charge while you were driving on that stretch.

We already have wireless charging tech, and we now have super capacitors that can receive high amounts of current in very short periods of time - come of science, get on it! lol
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Have you seen the awesome documentary, "Who killed the electric car"? It's a definite must see. It made me so angry when I watched it.
 
Nevaeh420

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NietzscheKeen said:
Have you seen the awesome documentary, "Who killed the electric car"? It's a definite must see. I made me so angry when I watched it.
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I'm lazy, so maybe you can provide a video link of that documentary!

Never mind, I will do it.

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I hope I got them in the correct order, it was kind of ambiguous.

Now, I need to find some time to watch the videos that I posted. I have ADD guys too!

~PEACE~
 
guy incognito

guy incognito

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Nevaeh420 said:
Hydrogen is still a great fuel. It might not be a source of energy but as you stated, its a great way to store energy. I would turn as much ocean water into hydrogen as possible. I would than run all the vehicles off of hydrogen too and that would be the end of the ALLEGED global warming.

And as far as aliens go, I beg to differ on the subject of whether they have visited or not. From My personal experience, I would have to say that the aliens have visited. Or at least I saw the UFOs and that being that I've been talking about in this thread. If that wasn't an alien encounter than I don't know what would be one.

For you to say "we will never visit an intelligent species somewhere off in space" is ludicrous because you certainly don't know that. We might not need to go far to "visit" aliens in space because they could be in our own solar system or even have bases on earth.

~PEACE~
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No it's not. It has tons of draw backs. Namely it's not a fuel. That is like saying a battery is a fuel and will solve the energy crisis. All you have to do is magically fill them with energy somehow, and BAM energy crisis over.

I can say with almost absolute certainty that there is no intelligent life in our solar system. We will almost certainly have to venture to another star and even the closest stars will pose large problems. And what are the odds that intelligent life is at one of those stars? Probably pretty small since we have never observed any radio waves from them, and we have been looking.
 
Padawanbater2

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It's just dumb not to harness the Sun

It emits way more than enough energy to power the entire world thousands of times over every day

I don't think it's an actual technological issue, I think it's a political one. If the conflict of interest that keeps oil/fossil fuels the main source of energy didn't exist, there likely wouldn't actually be any energy issues at all
 
tyler.durden

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NietzscheKeen said:
Have you seen the awesome documentary, "Who killed the electric car"? It's a definite must see. I made me so angry when I watched it.
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Im with you, dude! We had some beautiful, mass-produced electric cars on the road in the 90s: Ford Think, SG1, Toyota Rav 4, even a ford pick up truck. This is the instance that I realized that there doesn't need to be conspiracy theories, they can simply suppress better technology right out in the open. I mean, what the fuck are we going to do about it? It blows my mind when I hear, 'one day we'll have the technology to mass-produce electric cars', when we were doing it decades ago. In fact, the very first cars were all electric, even the Fords. My uncle converted his huge Buick into an electric car, all lead acid batteries and the fucker is HEAVY. But, he gets about 100-120 miles per charge, each charge is less than $2 in electricity, and the conversion was only about $15k. My buddy just bought an electric bike that goes 80 miles on a charge with no pedaling, and about 25mph. It's fucking fun, and it's about a dime per charge and takes 4 hours, but it was $3500! They are guarding the technology again I understand with the fully electric Nissan Leaf, they are only leasing the batteries, you can't buy them outright. It seems the Fed gov't will need to mandate these cars be built before any maker will do it...
 
MellowFarmer

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Chief Walkin Eagle said:
Oh, nevermind. Its there. And the explanation is that free, unlimited energy of any kind violates the laws of physics. So based on the current understanding of physics and thermal dynamics, no device will ever exist.

Its a darn shame people put such confining limits on what they think is possible...
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Wait, wait, wait before I catch up wit y'all.... are people debating that energy flows freely through our air? Of course it does, that is just a fact just as the fact that we are all energy vibrating at a frequency and pattern that makes up our physical reality. We all agree on that I hope?
 
MellowFarmer

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guy incognito said:
No it's not. It has tons of draw backs. Namely it's not a fuel. That is like saying a battery is a fuel and will solve the energy crisis. All you have to do is magically fill them with energy somehow, and BAM energy crisis over.

I can say with almost absolute certainty that there is no intelligent life in our solar system. We will almost certainly have to venture to another star and even the closest stars will pose large problems. And what are the odds that intelligent life is at one of those stars? Probably pretty small since we have never observed any radio waves from them, and we have been looking.
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Dude?! They still Fing paying you to Troll?! damn nice life but your facts are whack :wall:
 
Padawanbater2

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MellowFarmer said:
Wait, wait, wait before I catch up wit y'all.... are people debating that energy flows freely through our air? Of course it does, that is just a fact just as the fact that we are all energy vibrating at a frequency and pattern that makes up our physical reality. We all agree on that I hope?
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No, his main argument is that since we have no way of knowing the future, any technology could eventually emerge that people today couldn't possibly conceive of or that could break an accepted law of physics and turn the game upside down

One of the main things he doesn't understand is that humanity has been around for quite a while, and during that time, science has certain things that are constant as we observe them, no matter what, verified by mathematics, and usually, other branches of science. Things that are not subject to change (although he doesn't accept this). -he also doesn't understand what the word 'proven' means in science (or he rejects it), as most of his arguments stem from a simple misunderstanding of it which would require less than year of formal study to identify..
 
MellowFarmer

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Padawanbater2 said:
No, his main argument is that since we have no way of knowing the future, any technology could eventually emerge that people today couldn't possibly conceive of or that could break an accepted law of physics and turn the game upside down

One of the main things he doesn't understand is that humanity has been around for quite a while, and during that time, science has certain things that are constant as we observe them, no matter what, verified by mathematics, and usually, other branches of science. Things that are not subject to change (although he doesn't accept this). -he also doesn't understand what the word 'proven' means in science (or he rejects it), as most of his arguments stem from a simple misunderstanding of it which would require less than year of formal study to identify..
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Right, OK, explain why then that when observed an electron remains as a particle but when not observed it is clearly a wavelength?

[video=youtube;tu57B1v0SzI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=tu57B1v0SzI[/video]
 
Padawanbater2

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MellowFarmer said:
Right, OK, explain why then that when observed an electron remains as a particle but when not observed it is clearly a wavelength?

[video=youtube;tu57B1v0SzI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=tu57B1v0SzI[/video]
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I have no idea, I don't study physics. Why don't you ask a scientist familiar with the field?
 
NietzscheKeen

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Nevaeh420 said:
I'm lazy, so maybe you can provide a video link of that documentary!

Never mind, I will do it.

I hope I got them in the correct order, it was kind of ambiguous.

Now, I need to find some time to watch the videos that I posted. I have ADD guys too!

~PEACE~
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Thanks. I don't know how to add more than one video to a post.
 
eye exaggerate

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...this might be an older video, but I thought it was neat.

[video=youtube;32oUlB2BfEA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32oUlB2BfEA[/video]
 
guy incognito

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MellowFarmer said:
Right, OK, explain why then that when observed an electron remains as a particle but when not observed it is clearly a wavelength?

[video=youtube;tu57B1v0SzI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=tu57B1v0SzI[/video]
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wave-particle duality. I didn't watch the video, but I am familiar with QM and duality. I don't think you fully understand duality or the double slit experiment. Regardless of your understanding of the experiment or the consequences of it, nothing else changed. The speed of light was unaffected, and so still remains a fundamental barrier to traversing the universe.
 
Heisenberg

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MellowFarmer said:
Right, OK, explain why then that when observed an electron remains as a particle but when not observed it is clearly a wavelength?
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An observer in QM does not need to posses consciousness. It can be a mindless sensor.

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http://www.csicop.org/si/show/quantum_quackery/

Quantum physics is claimed to support the mystical notion that the mind creates reality. However, an objective reality, with no special role for consciousness, human or cosmic, is consistent with all observations.

However, no compelling argument or evidence requires that quantum mechanics plays a central role in human consciousness or provides instantaneous, holistic connections across the universe. Modern physics, including quantum mechanics, remains completely materialistic and reductionistic while being consistent with all scientific observations.
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