Lucky Luke
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I'm not apologizing at all for what the Nazis did. If its taken that way then perhaps my wording is not done well,1)
I am curious as to why you seem to be apologizing for the German policy of exterminating Jews. While they weren't the only active antisemites, Germany's plans and deeds in this regard raised the massacre of Jews to levels of intensity and efficiency not even approached by any other society. You are working to dilute that core fact, and I do not know what your dog is in this hunt. That you have one though is beyond honest dispute.
Nazis then and now should be shot on site. Its a cancerous cause. I also truly believe that talking about what did happen, how it happened and why bad things in history happen is much better than sweeping it under the carpet. Lets be honest, the human race is a fkn cruel one.
We were discussing the voluntary French hand over of French Jews. A subject by the way that I did not bring up on this thread. Some thing that Historians such as James Holland mentions.
The French were not commanded to hand them over, they just did. Did every French person do it? No. But the country certainly did.
Uncle Buck also says "to be fair, anti-semitism wasn't just a german thing at the time of the nazis and many of the conquered territories did voluntarily round up their jews." I certainly wouldn't call uncle buck a Nazi.
Its just history. It is what it was.
Strange that this topic rose its head again yesterday. I don't often go to funerals but I went to one yesterday afternoon. He was a client of mine. A Scotsman who joined up towards the end of WW2. For part of his service he guarded Rudolf Hess. Having studied WW1and WW2 pretty extensively I did enjoy his story's. In particular about the little known conflicts after WW2. I don't know anyone anymore who served in WW2.
And yes I mentioned The Vichy French and how they were allies to Axis.
Sometimes looking at one point in time can get conversations off track. There was allot happening at that time. But discussing one part of it doesn't mean we are talking about all of it.
If ive come across as a supporter of the Nazis due to my wording then I apologise. I'm certainly not.
Id rather talk about the Battle of the Atlantic, or Rommel's supply lines or the reason that Hitler had to invade Russia or what is the alternate view point of the reasoning of why America dropped atoms bombs on Japan.
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