What Additives Do You Use?
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Zcomfort
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The other day I was looking at something on youtube about people sharing EC and ppm readings. First of all the EC is the most accurate, but the readings are only related to what your doing not what I'm doing or Bobby down the road. So I guess the readings can only relate to the plants, enviroment, grower. At the moment with my plants I run about .5-.8 ec.
masonite420
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If you use additives correctly you can bring out all the plant has to offer......If you use a complete base nute the additives will def add frost and size on top of that....Creamy Goodness anyone?....peace
homebrewer
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Here is the print Screen of A and B and just to compare, FloraNova is below. So where are the minerals at?
FloraNova for comparison:
Icannabis
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The only thing I use is Dutch Master Zone and Sm-90. I don't count Magi-cal because it is a base nutrient. The reason is that they help my roots stay healthy and they are not hog wash...the Dutch Master is the same thing most good water supplies use to sterilize there drinking water with a few other things to keep the plants roots happy. The Sm-90 keeps all pest from messing with my plants and it's got some sulfur in it to help my plant stay healthy. Not to mention they are both chelating agents. I'm not a big fan of additives Homebrewer will a test to that. I think most people waste to much money trying to grow good bud with additives. I was going to try some silcia and fulvic/humic acid next grow. To see but I don't think anything will happen.
masonite420
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Using silica and fulvic acid is a great way to naturally lower and raise ph. They also break down nutes for easier uptake(fulvic) and strengthen the plant tissue(silica)....Good idea...Peace
taipanspunk
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I use only:
Foliage Pro
Mag Pro
Pro-Tekt
Bloom Liquid
liquid grow (AS A SPRAY ONLY)
Great White Mycorrhizae
Foliage Pro
Mag Pro
Pro-Tekt
Bloom Liquid
liquid grow (AS A SPRAY ONLY)
Great White Mycorrhizae
Canibitual
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I stopped using AN products, they were an expensive waste of money... they did not do what they were expected to do... for the longest time (2 years) I though I was doing something wrong, or some such nonsense...added more light, added CO2, nothing worked to get the size,density,quality up.... but I ended up switching to my own formula... and now popcorn buds turned into this... two tables side by side, all popcorn size buds on AN, the other soda can size buds, on a nute that costs about 2% of what the AN costs...... same light, same setup... only nutes were different.... I went exactly by AN's Calculator, flushed each week, used the 3part, b52, budcandy, big bud, overdrive... and it still sucked... same with a table of GH 3 part + AN Big bud, AN bud candy mixed...
best of all... my new mix is a "SINGLE PART MIX"... that's right, throw the whole mix into the res, ph, and call it a day.... I have a seperate mix for Veg, and a seperate mix for bloom time... the veg includes some extra Calcium, so it will work with RO water but RO isn't needed... you also only need to flush/refill once a month.... and you don't need any other boosters...
this also works very well in soil grows.. you'd mix 1tbsp per 5 gallons of water, and feed plants with it... (a 25gallon mix is 5tbsp)
25 gallon rez, cost me about $150 per month on AN (with all their extra's)
25 Gallon rez costs about $2 a month on my formula (1 tbsp per 5 gallons)
and this is the results Hard dense sticky buds FULL BUD, not just airy crud like AN
I'm thinking about Giving a few free sample packs out of the nutrients, to see if it's worth my time makeing this stuff into a package for sale... what do you guys think?...
even though its fairly cheap to make, I'd prob sell it for about 1/3 the price of the other solution would cost... (maybe $12 for a 25 gallon size, $30 for 3 month supply of 25gallons (1 veg formula + 2 bloom formula) also, since this mix is in powered form, the shipping would prob be free in the USA...
best of all... my new mix is a "SINGLE PART MIX"... that's right, throw the whole mix into the res, ph, and call it a day.... I have a seperate mix for Veg, and a seperate mix for bloom time... the veg includes some extra Calcium, so it will work with RO water but RO isn't needed... you also only need to flush/refill once a month.... and you don't need any other boosters...
this also works very well in soil grows.. you'd mix 1tbsp per 5 gallons of water, and feed plants with it... (a 25gallon mix is 5tbsp)
25 gallon rez, cost me about $150 per month on AN (with all their extra's)
25 Gallon rez costs about $2 a month on my formula (1 tbsp per 5 gallons)
and this is the results Hard dense sticky buds FULL BUD, not just airy crud like AN
I'm thinking about Giving a few free sample packs out of the nutrients, to see if it's worth my time makeing this stuff into a package for sale... what do you guys think?...
even though its fairly cheap to make, I'd prob sell it for about 1/3 the price of the other solution would cost... (maybe $12 for a 25 gallon size, $30 for 3 month supply of 25gallons (1 veg formula + 2 bloom formula) also, since this mix is in powered form, the shipping would prob be free in the USA...
Canibitual
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LOL, guess nobody was interested in some free nutes... anyways... good luck with your grows...
drgreentm
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i use flora nova grow for veg (nothing else) and in flower i use flora nova bloom accompanied with hg bud xl from week 4 on till harvest at 1ml per L of water and i can say i am satisfied with the bud xl noticed buds where becoming denser, fuller, and a little heavier on the scale after a full cure so i guess i will keep using it lol.
GH 3 Part Flora Series and Botanicare CNS17 Series
Liquid KoolBloom or Botanicare Pure Blend Bloom
GH Flora Nectar or Botanicare Sweet
Bud Candy (currently experimenting)
molasses (currently experiementing)
CAL-MAG
Hygrozyme
Botanicare Silica Blast
Superthrive
Just bought a litre of AN OverDrive to the mix. Has anyone have experience using Overdrive in veg? I'm thinking of experimenting with that in my next cycle and fed it to my current cycle that is at Wk 5.
Liquid KoolBloom or Botanicare Pure Blend Bloom
GH Flora Nectar or Botanicare Sweet
Bud Candy (currently experimenting)
molasses (currently experiementing)
CAL-MAG
Hygrozyme
Botanicare Silica Blast
Superthrive
Just bought a litre of AN OverDrive to the mix. Has anyone have experience using Overdrive in veg? I'm thinking of experimenting with that in my next cycle and fed it to my current cycle that is at Wk 5.
mikadodarkside
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Complete nutrient spectrum is more effective but not necessary. I used lucas at 150ppm for clones and 300-500ppm with diamond nectar, I would add a calmag and molasses, but whatever. I do use seaweed extract to stain roots every other week.flush every week or two. and i never h202 because if you need that shit, your doing something wrong...
Ohh yea and i flush for 2.5 - 3 weeks before harvest. only way to really have tasty bud.
i think its more important to have a stable environment then provide every effective element.
Ohh yea and i flush for 2.5 - 3 weeks before harvest. only way to really have tasty bud.
i think its more important to have a stable environment then provide every effective element.
Canibitual
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Thought I'd drop a better picture of those buds...
Infact, if you guys provide a pic of the buds you get... with what you use for nutes/additives it would be very helpful for everyone to see what kind of results you get with your setup... could be interesting...
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Infact, if you guys provide a pic of the buds you get... with what you use for nutes/additives it would be very helpful for everyone to see what kind of results you get with your setup... could be interesting...
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Canibitual
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Looks like you got quite a bit of overlaps...LOL
The Bottle for Bud Candy says it is mostly mag (although according (Homebrewer's Links) to the Reg commision hardly any actual mag)... , I'd bet that Flora nectar, sweet and calmag are all mostly mag... no real point in all three...
the AN overdrive didn't do anything for my setup when I was using AN's stuff... the only thing that really changed it was the bud candy due to the sweet smell (mag) but that ended up with a funky smell on my Super Lemon Haze when it was finished... not quite Lemon smell any more... to much candyish smell...
with your stuff, I'd say use the lucas formula, put alot of P and K in during flowering... and use a little of any of the Mag products .... unless you RO your water, the Calmag isn't really needed... there's quite a bit of Calcium in regular tap water...
jigfresh
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I use Dutch Masters Silica, Zone, Potash, and Max, also Humboldt County's Own Gravity, Bushmaster. Silica is simply a silica boost. Silica is supposed to make the cell walls stronger making the plant healthier and less prone to disease. The Zone is a tank sanitizer as I'm in DWC. I've always had white roots and clear water. Never any algae or root rot. Potash is just a boost of potasium to be used during flower. The Max stuff is the only thing I think is possibly bunk. It is supposed to be something to aid in the uptake of nutrients, whatever that means. I'm not sure if the max does anything, but it's not expensive so I'm ok with it.
Now the Bushmaster is the only thing I've seen work with my own eyes. That shit seriously stops 12/12 stretch on contact. No kidding I run it for 24 hours only at 1 ml/gal (i think that's the dilution I use) and the stretch just stops in it's tracks.
The gravity is supposed to make the buds fatter, frostier, and more dense. I've never done a side by side, but my buds do turn out quite dense since the first grow I've done. Plus one thing about gravity that I like is that you use less nutrients while you are running it. So it pretty much pays for itself.
That's what I got going. Four harvests so far and I couldn't be happier with how everyone has turned out.
peace
EDIT: forgot cal-mag. I run RO
Sour Kush
Oddysey
Querkle
Casey Jones
Sour Grape
Purple Kush
Hindu Skunk
Canibitual
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Gotta be careful with humbolt gravity in a res, if you have a air pump, turn it off when putting it in your res... it will Gunk up into a nice frothy white mess... the air pump activates something for mold or something.. I've had that happen... one res was perfectly fine, the other with the airstone was a nasty mess within 24 hours... and in a aeroponics setup it can be really nasty....
jigfresh
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That's weird. I've never turned off my airpump at all and never had anything like that happen. Not sure if it's becuase I only use a little or if the zone keeps it in check or what. But yeah, been 5 grows so far with it, 3 dwc and 2 flooded tube and I've not once changed anything when the gravity enters... just cut back on the other nutes is all.
Canibitual
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yea, it's strange. I did it a couple times and couldn't figure out why it got a white frothy mess after 24 hours... but I looked it up and others had the same issue...
on their lable of "purple max" it says...
http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17261
Hydroponic Application: At this time hydro is a big unknown. One thing for certain. DO NOT USE AN AERATOR! If using PURPLE MAXX in a reservoir, it should be added the day before a reservoir change. Bests is to use the foliar feed method as far into bloom as possible.
another one....
my guess is it has some of the same stuff to make microbes react with aeration... not sure why or what not... but sometimes it reacts badly.. might be a heat/humidity combination that makes it progressively worse....sounds like you are running Hydro. I like to use 2 2.5 ML / gallon in my
reservoir and run it for about 3 days before I dump my reservoir. I have run my
res both with and without air stones while using Snow Storm, Gravity, &
Bushmaster. I always off-gas my R.O. water in another tank for 48 hours with
another air-stone, prior to mixing.
The simple rule seems to be that if you DO aerate your reservoir, you should
only use the products for the last 72-48 hours of the waters life before its
time to dump it. The fact is that even with only a couple of days of watering
out of the week with this stuff, you still seem to get the same if not better
results from running it continuously. If you get it in and out of your res in 48
hours, the chances of building up that bad bacteria is much reduced. Dont be
scared of a little foam in the reservoir
When your water level and total-dissolved-solids (PPM) has dropped a few days
after first mixing up your water, its the perfect time to add snow storm and
gravity along with pure R/O water and possibly a Phosphorous / Potassium (P/K)
boost like Kool-Bloom Powder from General Hydroponics or Hydroplex from
Botanicare.
Now, if you DO NOT aerate your res, you can run the snow storm at its
continuous dose of 2 ml/ gallon and just leave it in for the entire 7-14 days
you keep your reservoir water until you dump and start fresh. Even when your
water is low and you need to top-off the water, you can add the respective
amount on 2 ml/gal to your top-off water. I will say again that even with just
2-3 waterings per week of this stuff, the same amazing results seem to occur. As
they say on the label, less is more.
All the same would apply in regards to aeration with Bushmaster and Gravity.
Bushmaster however is only used for 3-7 days, and Gravity is only used from
weeks four to eight. Gravity can be run at a continuous dose of 1 ML / FIVE
GALLONS of water.
I had the same results both with and without an aerated reservoir
Cali.Grown>408
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Base- GH Flora *Micro, *Grow, *Bloom
Additives- *Seaplex, *Huvega, *Humega..from Bonticare's line ORGANICARE..*Hygrozyme
Boosters- AN's *Bud Blood, *Big Bud Powder, *Carboload, *Overdrive and Bonticare's Liquid Karma
-EVERY plant i grow see's all of these nutrient, additives, and boosters.
Additives- *Seaplex, *Huvega, *Humega..from Bonticare's line ORGANICARE..*Hygrozyme
Boosters- AN's *Bud Blood, *Big Bud Powder, *Carboload, *Overdrive and Bonticare's Liquid Karma
-EVERY plant i grow see's all of these nutrient, additives, and boosters.
