i hear what you saying...
but its still a place some noobs can jump in and ask a quick question... or someone can post up some nice pics or get a good convo about soil mixtures at times
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but its still a place some noobs can jump in and ask a quick question... or someone can post up some nice pics or get a good convo about soil mixtures at times
floridasucks
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fuck all the MG haters.... lets just use this thread to post pics and share info...
littlewhitewhore
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This is my top 44 1 week into flowering in mg! check out my thread in the general forum for more pics.
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floridasucks
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looks really healthy.....
littlewhitewhore
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they are, seeing incredible growth. im using mg soil mixed with perlite 70/30 with bio bizz ferts
Kriegs
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They look nice.. careful about adding extra nutes to these MG soils..
I just went through a rash my girls in MG. They went into 12/12 about 5 weeks ago and were just rockin' out. By the looks of them, they didn't need a damn thing except water.
'Cept I, Mr Human, know better than a plant, right? I started adding Foxfarm nutes and they seemed to take the nutes alright, but the shit crashed my pH and (almost) my plants along with it.
Just got through flushing them this morning, and already they look WAY better, so whew. But, go easy on those additives. I seen more than one Dutch grower say "you can plant and grow in MG from start to finish without anything else". And who knows more about growing indoor nugs than the Dutch?
Kriegs
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Pointless? No way... This is a great thread to trade pics, and the ins-and-outs of growing with MG. Hey, if you can grow successfully with MG, you're growing in one of the most economical ways possible.
And who doesn't want to save a little extra coin in this day and age?
BigBudBalls
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Saving it on both ends, on the soil and little to no nutes.
Kriegs
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Absoultely.. in fact, I just fucked up my plants for the first time on this grow..
By adding foofy expensive nutes they didn't need.
nice pics...
ha... just the other day i mistakenly thought one of my plants needed nutes... burnt a couple of the bottom leaves... but like you said... it just needed water...
and something else i realized.. depending on how you grow... the first couple of weeks of veg you can just water up to the point till it needs nutes... but that may just be around the time you need to transplant also... so, if you're going to transplant, you don't need to give it nutes, because the new soil has the nutes... thats how i burnt her... i was like, damn its time to give her nutes, but it was also time to transplant.... forgetting the new soil had the nutes already, i added more... ha.. i like the damn soil, fuck... i understand people like to know when the plant is being fed or what their plant is eating.. but just adding water is so damn simple for me, i love it... its when i have to start adding stuff is when i get paranoid, because we all make mistakes and i know its easy to mistake one problem for another...
TwistedBladez
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they look very healthy. I'm just starting , but I will be using MG Soil for my grow. The starting medium isn't MG though , I'm using Jiffy pucks for starting my seeds once they crack open then I'll plant them into MG soil once I see roots out the sides of the jiffy pucks
i know i do...
and when people say you will taste MG chemicals in the end, thats why they rather pay for more expensive soils (yall have great tastebuds, ha)... in the GrowFAQ... there is a method for curing that uses water... it cleans the chemicals out..
TwistedBladez
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that and usaly if a person is going to flower their plants but need to trans plant , they would transplant , veg for a bit so by the time they start to flower the plant there won't be much nutes in the MG soil
i'm at that point right now...
Kriegs
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Yuppers... we just can't accept that something could be THAT simple..!! Just add water? Sacrilege!!
I've got an idea I'm going to test out next time: I really like how things went for me just starting my seeds in 2-gal pots and going all the way -- no transplants, no shocks, super simple. But, the early nute burn thing sucked to watch, even though it did no real harm... SO:
What I'm going to do is fill pots with fresh MG, then hollow out an area in the center about 4-5" around and deep, and fill that with nute-free seed-starter mix. The plant will live out its first couple weeks there and by the time it's ready to take off, the roots will have grown down and out and hit the pre-ferted MG and BANG...!! Off to the moon!
Kriegs
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I think that's nothing more than poor curing and chlorophyll taste coming thru. I could maybe see if you dosed your plants heavy with nutes right at the end, but most people trail that off, whether you go chemical/organic/flush/ don't flush.. so much voodoo.
Plants move material up and down constantly thru the phloem.. there are few if any pathways for a plant to store soluble nutrients like NPK, and the mikes like Mg, Mn, Zn etc are in there in super-low amounts and are soluble, too. Heavy metals are another thing - they attach to fats and can be accumulated - but commercial soils and ferts have to pass very strict standards for heavy metals as they are all likely to be used on food at some point. So, there's plenty of science to support the concept that this "taste thing" is bullshit.
BigBudBalls
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(point being x-plant or need nutes)
My MO is:
put clones into 1 gal grow bags, veg for as long as needed.
When they need to be x-anted, its about time to flower also.
So I x-plant, toss back into veg for a week or so to stablize then into flower.
So far all looks good 3 rounds of this later.
This round I did 1 PM (with GH nutes), 1 FF (soil and nutes) and 1 MG (just water). At 5 weeks into flowering, all considering (@ 5 weeks) I'm sticking with MG. Saves on soil, plus nutes (though a quick bloom boost @ 5 or 6 weeks *any* soil/nute schedule is a good thing)
As an added note: The MG soii's nutes is good for 3 months. It *does* dissipate in the bag as long as it doesn't dry out. So if you have time and space, you *can* de-MG your MG soil. Toss in a pot with drainage, water and wait 4-6 months. (the prills will be visible, but will be empty/hollow)
BigBudBalls
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N is considered the big 'bad taste' nute (the reason why you see mature plant yellowing) MG, on its downside, is rich in N. One should schedule their x-plant/harvest, and 2 weeks before, so one can use just plain water for the last 2 weeks (the 2 week flush)
As for the food analogy, I'll give it some credit, but would like to add that if I eat/swallow a small plastic bead, its not much a prob, I'll just pass it out. But if I inhale the fumes of the same plastic bead as it burns, its a MUCH different story. Burning changes things quite a bit. Other compounds are produced. Food is cooked, and not subject to near the temps we smoke/vaporize at.