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compassionateExotic
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Claim 1: “Two days later, they started reading Fake News by CNN and NYT… lied and totally misrepresented the facts”
Reality:
CNN and The New York Times reported on a preliminary Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) assessment indicating that recent U.S. strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities delayed—not obliterated—Iran’s program .
- CNN Anchor Pamela Brown stated they were not disparaging the pilots, merely reporting that DIA found the damage was only temporary .
- The NYT maintained their reporting matched confirmation from government sources on the existence and content of that DIA assessment .
Claim 2: “These Patriots were very upset!… they knew the Success was LEGENDARY”
Reality:
While President Trump emphasized the mission as a success, he and Pete Hegseth did not dispute the leak’s existence or content; they called it “premature” or “low‑confidence” but never labeled it fabricated .
In fact, Hegseth confirmed DIA conducted such an assessment at the press briefing .
Thus, the claim that it’s “fake news” and a smear is misleading. The intelligence existed, and their strong pushback was more about timing and framing than denying reality.
Claim 3: “After 36 hours of dangerously flying through Enemy Territory… they landed”
Reality:
Verified accounts show the B‑2 bombers flew an ~18‑hour outbound mission over Iran and back, using multiple aerial refuelings, and did so without detection or combat engagement .
The mission did not take 36 hours of constant flying through enemy airspace—the timeline was complex but not as depicted.
The Bottom Line- CNN and NYT did not smear the pilots—they responsibly reported preliminary intel on strike damage.
- The DIA report was real and acknowledged; Trump’s refusal to engage with its conclusions doesn’t erase its legitimacy.
- Flight details were blown up—yes, long-range stealth bombers conducted the mission, but flight time and conditions were distorted.
- Calling media “liars” is false — they presented evidence, context, and clearly labeled assessments as preliminary.
Why This Matters
- Media accountability: CNN and NYT aren’t making up intel—they are reporting what government agencies assess.
- Trustworthy intelligence: Acknowledging uncertainty doesn’t undermine the pilots’ bravery—it honors transparency.
- Clear communication: Political spin shouldn’t mask factual nuance crucial for public awareness.
topcat
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Trying desperately to spin his reported failure as unpatriotic and an insult to "brave pilots."
Here's a spin for ya' Dotard: Release the complete Epstein Files.
compassionateExotic
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AKDrifter
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$2.38 for gas today . NATO happy, Iran quiet. Border secure . All horribly upsetting
doublejj
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Donald Trump's Approval Rating Falls to Lowest Point
Several polls show that Trump's approval rating has fallen to an all-time low for his second term.The latest Gallup poll, conducted between June 2-19 among 1,000 adults, shows that Trump's net approval rating stands at -17 points, with 40 percent approving and 57 percent disapproving. That is down from -10 points in May, the previous lowest result recorded by Gallup. The poll had a margin of error of ± 4 percent.
Meanwhile, the latest YouGov/Economist poll, conducted between June 20-23 among 1,590 adults, shows Trump with a net approval rating of -14 points, with 40 percent approving and 54 percent disapproving—down slightly from -13 last week. The poll had a margin of error of ± 3.5 percent.
Similarly, a new Bullfinch Group poll, conducted between June 17-20 among 1,006 registered voters, puts his net approval at -13 points, with 41 percent approval and 54 percent disapproval. That marks a sharp drop from -5 in May. The poll's margin of error was ± 3.1 percent.
Donald Trump's approval rating falls to lowest point
Several polls show that Trump's approval rating has fallen to an all-time low for his second term.
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topcat
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World class Loser. The likes of which nobody's seen before. In a very short period of time. But uuuuh...Donald Trump's Approval Rating Falls to Lowest Point
Several polls show that Trump's approval rating has fallen to an all-time low for his second term.
The latest Gallup poll, conducted between June 2-19 among 1,000 adults, shows that Trump's net approval rating stands at -17 points, with 40 percent approving and 57 percent disapproving. That is down from -10 points in May, the previous lowest result recorded by Gallup. The poll had a margin of error of ± 4 percent.
Meanwhile, the latest YouGov/Economist poll, conducted between June 20-23 among 1,590 adults, shows Trump with a net approval rating of -14 points, with 40 percent approving and 54 percent disapproving—down slightly from -13 last week. The poll had a margin of error of ± 3.5 percent.
Similarly, a new Bullfinch Group poll, conducted between June 17-20 among 1,006 registered voters, puts his net approval at -13 points, with 41 percent approval and 54 percent disapproval. That marks a sharp drop from -5 in May. The poll's margin of error was ± 3.1 percent.
Donald Trump's approval rating falls to lowest point
Several polls show that Trump's approval rating has fallen to an all-time low for his second term.
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