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Ukrainian source so obvious bias but sometimes you do not need to make things up (like the Russians).
Goptovka, bordering with the Russian Federation, Kharkiv region under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (video)
The Armed Forces of Ukraine are already in Goptovka , a border checkpoint on the Ukrainian-Russian border in the Dergachev district of the Kharkiv region.

This was reported by the Ukrainian military of the 130th troop battalion.

“On September 11, Goptovka came under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine!” – the message says.
So far, there is no official confirmation from the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

https://t.me/uniannet/71741?embed=1


Hoptovka is a checkpoint across the state border of Ukraine on the border with Russia. Prior to the start of the full-scale invasion of the Russian troops, only automobile type of control was carried out through the checkpoint. Located in the Kharkiv region, Dergachevsky district, near the village of Goptovka, on the E105 highway, which coincides with the M20.

Exclusive: Russian soldiers ‘literally running’ for their lives as chain of command collapses
Panicked Russian soldiers are abandoning their tanks, weapons and even clothes as they “literally run from their positions” in the face of a shock Ukrainian offensive, soldiers have told The Telegraph.

A Ukrainian intelligence unit on the front line said the Russian chain of command was broken and soldiers were fleeing without putting up a fight, many of them changing into civilian clothes to avoid detection.

A drone operator returning from the front line on Sunday also told The Telegraph that the speed of the offensive had even taken their own army by surprise, with troops struggling to recover the mountains of Russian ammunition and armoured vehicles left behind.

Watching the battles through reconnaissance drones and listening to Russian communications, the soldiers said Russian units were being obliterated before they had time to identify their enemy, while survivors fled amid the chaos.

In one intercepted communication, a commander with the callsign Birdie described hearing a Russian tank unit desperately asking what had happened to their command. “‘We are totally f—ed’.

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“Then they fled. Later we found their burned tank.”

The first-hand description of the counter-offensive – one of the first describing an ongoing operation – belies claims by the Russian Defence ministry that Moscow’s retreat from Izium and other parts of occupied Kharkiv was a planned “regrouping”.

“They were really afraid, their chain of command was in chaos. Officers left the area before the fighting began,” Birdie said, describing listening to panicked Russian radio transmissions.

The 31-year-old commands a communications and reconnaissance unit in the Kraken Regiment that returned to Kharkiv from the liberated city of Balakliya on Sunday morning.

Listening in on enemy
The unit had spent a week intercepting radio communications and surveilling Russian positions for a Ukrainian counter-offensive that is estimated to have routed Russian forces from nearly 2,000 square miles of territory since Tuesday.

A volunteer unit formed on the day of Russia’s invasion on February 24, Kraken operates in a grey zone separate from Ukraine’s armed forces but answering to their defence ministry, giving it greater flexibility than other military units to discuss an ongoing counter-offensive that remains under a media blackout.

Having slept little since the operation, and with blue tape still tied around the sleeves of his uniform to identify him as a Ukrainian soldier, Birdie was upbeat describing the counter-offensive.

“It was the coolest thing I’ve ever seen in my life,” he said of his unit’s work coordinating Ukrainian ground forces via drone as they attacked Russian positions.

“I saw small units of up to five of our guys on foot who were destroying huge numbers or Russian vehicles – three tanks at one time,” he added, drinking a coffee on a chilly morning in central Kharkiv.

Russian soldiers and fighters from the separatist Donetsk and Luhansk regions had fled in a rout, he said.

Fleeing Russians
“They left a huge amount of vehicles and ammunition. We couldn’t transfer or evacuate it all to our rear.”

Few of the pro-Russian forces stayed to fight, with many switching into civilian clothes to flee, Birdie added.

“There were a lot of uniforms lying around. We caught some of these guys trying to escape in civilian clothes, they were telling some incredible bullshit trying to save themselves.”

Other Russian troops were unable to distinguish their own forces from advancing Ukrainian troops.

“I heard them asking what were the white crosses on the vehicles. Then I heard them die in real time, while I was listening,” he said.

Tai, a 23-year-old drone operator, said the counter-offensive had advanced even faster than they had planned.

“The hardest task was coordinating all the groups operating inside Balakliya,” she said, describing how they had liberated the city faster than they had initially expected.

A Kraken commander who declined to be identified credited the unit with acting as the brains of a complex counter-offensive with their drones as the eyes.

“We need more drones, we need more more drones!” said Green, a 43-year–old drone pilot in the unit.

Further counter-offensives
The unit is now expecting to redeploy in the near future for further offensive operations.

“I think it’s the beginning of the end for Russian occupants,” said Marty, a 25-year-old in the unit who comes from a Kharkiv village that was liberated last week.

“They were literally running from their positions, leaving their stuff and heading to the occupied territories. I think more significant gains are coming.”
 

DIY-HP-LED

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It is amazing that we are able to keep up with events in this war with cellphones, social media, private satellites and intelligence companies and the media all providing information and locals insight as well as disinformation! During ww2 the old men on the home front had a map on the wall and the radio, with newsreels at the theater. I wondered where all the young guys were, since most of the video was of reservists or territorials in their own areas. Troops are probably forbidden phones, but not Gopros, the younger fitter guys were in the regular army or elite forces doing the advancing for the most part. They should be moving large numbers of territorials and reservists into the newly liberated territories and telling them to leave their phones at home. They will need them to secure the area, mop up, manage prisoners and collect vast amounts of equipment, they are a force multiplier along with the civilian organizations that will refurbish most of the equipment. If they have an operation going to refurbish the Russian guns with Poland and others, they will be busy! They will capture enough Russian ammo to keep them busy for awhile.
 

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Between the south and the east, how many tanks will the Ukrainians get?
How much other equipment?
How many guns?
How much ammo?
How many prisoners, wounded and dead Russians?
How many Russian BTG's out of the picture, many with their equipment captured?

There might have been 100 Russian Battalion Tactical Groups or less left in Ukraine and recent operations might bag or unequip at least almost half of them. It could leave the Donbas open to an attack on their undefended northern flank, if the Ukrainians take the ground north of them, their fixed defenses point mostly to the west, the ones to the friendly north are not manned, yet. They will need to withdraw BTGs from the south to reinforce the east close to the Russian border, this might weaken the south enough for the Ukrainians to drive through to the sea of Azov.

 
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xtsho

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Things are going bad for vlad.

When you have to get ammunition from North Korea it shows a complete failure in your supply chain. In war the supply chain is critical.

If this comes down to who runs out of bullets first then Russia is completely fucked. They don't have the capability to compete with the unlimited supply of weapons available to Ukraine. pootin will probably beg Xi Jinping when he meets with him for some ammunition.
 

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Russia’s ‘rigid’ forces collapse to ‘audacious lightning’ Ukraine counteroffensive
19,111 views Sep 11, 2022 Ukraine has carried out such a swift counteroffensive against Russia it's taken even their own forces by surprise. Ukrainian troops have recaptured huge areas of territory in the east of the country, some reportedly reaching a settlement almost on the border with Russia. As Russian troops abandon their positions, leaving tanks, ammunition and military hardware behind, Ukrainian flags have been raised in dozens of newly liberated villages and towns.
 

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'The Russian Federation could collapse' because of Ukraine's counter-offensive | Ben Hodges
25,445 views Sep 11, 2022 "We were not prepared for the collapse of the Soviet Union. We need to be prepared for the collapse of Russia." Ukraine's counter offensive could result in the Russian Federation collapsing, say General Ben Hodges.
 

xtsho

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Guaranteed this offensive was orchestrated by US advisors. That's the reason it's been so successful. The strategy, intelligence, and weapons all coming from the United States and other western nations but the US is in charge. There's no doubt about that. Who knows how many well trained military contractors are in the country right now. They don't even know how to operate some of the weapons systems we've sent. Someone's showing them how.

Then there are the behind the scenes efforts to sow unrest within Russia which isn't hard as more and more the Russian people are becoming aware of how bad it's going. All these peoples sons that aren't coming home and the lack of will for any to go fight. We should start seeing anti-war protests popping up and spreading inside Russia. It will get to the point where the internal security forces will refuse to do anything about it as many have probably lost family members in Ukraine and they didn't even get the body so they could bury them properly.

This is going to be the end of pootin. I don't think he stays in power longer than another 2 years at most.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Guaranteed this offensive was orchestrated by US advisors. That's the reason it's been so successful. The strategy, intelligence, and weapons all coming from the United States and other western nations but the US is in charge. There's no doubt about that. Who knows how many well trained military contractors are in the country right now. They don't even know how to operate some of the weapons systems we've sent. Someone's showing them how.

Then there are the behind the scenes efforts to sow unrest within Russia which isn't hard as more and more the Russian people are becoming aware of how bad it's going. All these peoples sons that aren't coming home and the lack of will for any to go fight. We should start seeing anti-war protests popping up and spreading inside Russia. It will get to the point where the internal security forces will refuse to do anything about it as many have probably lost family members in Ukraine and they didn't even get the body so they could bury them properly.

This is going to be the end of pootin. I don't think he stays in power longer than another 2 years at most.
I think Uncle Sam and others helped a lot, but it is Ukrainian courage, patriotism and morale doing the heavy lifting. Uncle Sam got a bargain and made a good bet, considering the cost of a new aircraft carrier or a new weapons system, the number 1 adversary's complete destruction is a Helluva deal! Back Liberal democracy and good people, not strongmen, no nation building required here, just a hand. There is a good possibility much of their war and the damage wrought might be paid for by the billion dollars the Russians have abroad that can be accessed. Estimates are around $400 billion for damage to Ukrainian property and say another $50 billion to pay back aid and military assistance plus get the economy back up and running, though reconstruction will take care of that.

In short, Uncle Sam could get rid of the Russian conventional threat, get payed back for all the aid and assistance, generate tons of sales for newer replacement weapons at home and with allies and increase the military strength of Europe with new members and German rearming. Meanwhile the whole region is blown wide open with new geopolitical possibilities with Belarus the next domino to fall. Shit Vlad might even end up dead over this disaster for Russia, he fucked them for generations.
 

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The "People's Army of Donbass" called the counteroffensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine a cover
Ukraine's attempted counter-offensive may be an imitation to distract from the preparation of the main attack - against Kherson. Now the Armed Forces of Ukraine are conducting reconnaissance in force in this direction, Georgy Makariev, head of the public organization "People's Army of Donbass", told URA.RU.

“Now there is an imitation of an offensive in other directions. The goal is to "pull" the Russian troops to prepare an attack in a specific place. It is foolish to think that an enemy offensive can develop favorably where the main contingent of the RF Armed Forces is located. So, I think the main blow will be on a different target. Most likely, this is the Kherson direction. Now reconnaissance in force is underway: the establishment of crossings across the Ingulets River and attempts to gain a foothold on our bank. But in the near future, the enemy will throw the main forces and still try to take Kherson, which has already approached at a march distance, ”Makariev said.

According to Makariev, Ukrainian forces, with the help of American guidance satellites and their own weapons, have already bombed three main bridges: two across the Dnieper River, the Antonovsky and Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power stations, the Darevsky bridge across the right tributary of the Dnieper, the Ingulets River. “They bombed slowly, for more than a month, as if reluctantly, so as not to cause unnecessary excitement on the part of the RF Armed Forces,” Makariev notes.

In this situation, the expert notes, there are conditions for the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on Kherson. The loss of direct communication with the city means that there is no possibility of a quick delivery of both equipment and manpower. In Kherson and its environs, the Russian contingent is limited, and in the event of a full-scale offensive in this direction, it could be difficult for Russian forces. “In my opinion, we will stand, but the enemy may think differently. In fact, there are conditions for the enemy to attack there, but he will be defeated in any case, ”Makariev concluded.

Kherson and most of the Zaporozhye region came under the control of the Russian army during a special operation to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine. According to Russian President Vladimir Putin, its main task is to protect the civilians of Donbass from Ukrainian nationalists.

Zelensky refuses to negotiate with Russia now
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said he was not ready for negotiations with Russia, he told the American television channel CNN.

The politician has now refused to engage in dialogue with "those who put forward ultimatums."

At the same time, Zelensky noted that Russia is a “neighbor with a huge population,” so Ukraine will have to live with it and build ties.

Not for today. I don't see any desire on their part to be constructive. This is my principle, I don't talk to those who give ultimatums
Zelensky answered a journalist’s question whether he plans to “fight to the end.” The President called the Minsk agreements on the settlement of the conflict in Donbass "an empty piece of paper."

I know that some countries are pushing us in the direction of the Minsk process. I want the world to recognize that one thing is a diplomatic solution, and another is Minsk-2, -3, -5, -10. These are two different things, because Minsk is an empty piece of paper

According to the Ukrainian leader, an agreement with Moscow can be concluded after the Russian military leaves the territory of Ukraine.

In May, the Ukrainian leader announced that he was ready to meet only with Russian President Vladimir Putin . According to Zelensky, he does not intend to negotiate with other politicians and diplomats from Russia. He named one more condition of the meeting - at it the parties should discuss the termination of the special operation in Ukraine. According to Zelensky, "there is nothing else to talk about."

I do not accept any meeting with anyone from Russia, except with the president. And only if there is only one question on the table - the end of the war. All. Nothing else to talk about

Organizing a meeting at the level of presidents is becoming increasingly difficult due to the fact that "there is some kind of line that is already difficult to cross," he stressed.

Russia has been conducting a special operation in Ukraine since February 24. This measure was a response to requests for military assistance that came from the leaders of the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics (DNR and LNR)

In September, Russian presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov said that Moscow was still ready to discuss with Ukraine the conditions for complying with Russia's demands.

According to Peskov, the conditions that Russia puts forward to the Ukrainian side remain the same, and Moscow and Kyiv will not talk about anything other than their observance. The official representative of the Kremlin said that the meeting between the President of Russia and Zelensky is possible only to finalize "a certain document."

Preparation for this meeting can and should be expressed exclusively in the development of an appropriate document, which should then be finalized at the highest level.

Peskov also said that Russia a priori does not refuse a meeting between Putin and Zelensky. In his opinion, the event should be carefully prepared. The spokesman explained that the Kremlin recognizes Zelensky as the head of Ukraine. Separately, Peskov noted that Russia has no plans to eliminate him.

Putin himself warned that attempts to delay the negotiation process between Russia and Ukraine would lead to new demands on official Kiev.

The tasks of the special military operation will be fulfilled in any case, and attempts to gain time by dragging out negotiations will only lead to the fact that our negotiating position will include additional demands on Kyiv

The last face-to-face talks between the Russian and Ukrainian delegations took place at the Dolmabahce Palace in Istanbul on March 24. The last face-to-face talks between the delegations of Russia and Ukraine took place in the Dolmabahce Palace

Following the meeting, a member of the Russian delegation, Vladimir Medinsky , said that the negotiations allowed the Russian side to receive confirmation of Ukraine's intentions to abandon the course towards joining NATO .
 

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I hope they can keep the momentum going and exploit the Russian's confusion even more. I'm sure there must be lot's of reservists and territorials coming in behind to hold territory, mop up and remove captured equipment and supplies. They are having better than expected success and will need to adjust the plan to take advantage of it. Once cleared and secured by reservists they can start another offensive and perhaps hit Donbas from an unexpected direction. They are also making moves in the south and "encouraging" the Russians on the wrong side of the river to leave, since they are cut off from supplies and can't get equipment across the river. They have the Kherson pocket cut into two pieces by blowing bridges, so those on the west side of the Dnieper can't help or support each other. There are 25,000 Russians trapped in Kherson with badly damaged bridges, small boats and swimming the only way out for the men, the equipment will have to stay.
 

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Russia was doomed from the start | Dr Mike Martin
317,561 views Sep 11, 2022 "This war has never really been right for Russia. They’ve never had enough troops, they’ve been poorly equipped." Russian troops are neither skilled nor equipped enough to win the war against Ukraine, former British Army officer Dr. Mike Martin tells
 
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