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Budzbuddha
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Guess May 9th parade will be a long parade of scrap iron.
captainmorgan
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Biden to sign the Ukraine Lend-Lease Act on May 9. That's a nice fuck you to the mad midget lol.
DIY-HP-LED
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Obviously he figures he has the luxury of time during a war, that could mean they figure Ukraine has enough shit for now to whip the Russians and the intelligence reports must be good. I would have thought he would sign it ASAP, but appears to be in no rush and seems to be waiting on Vlad's call of war or peace on the 9th. He probably already knows it will be war and he's sending Vlad a message that America will destroy him if he keeps this shit up. It will only get worse for Vlad from this point forward and the rate and scale of his losses will increase dramatically.
I think the Ukrainians are going all out now and deploying territorials into the fight and modern arms as they arrive and people trained. It will also mean an all out guerilla war campaign in the occupied south that will drive the Russians nuts and wreak havoc on their logistics. The generals are saying the long range artillery when coupled with the radars and drones will devastate the Russians and could be a game changer.
The next couple of weeks should be decisive, so taking his time signing the bill seems odd, but I figure Joe and his people know what they are doing. It's not something someone worried about losing a war would do and Zelenskiy and his crowd haven't been crying as much for weapons or screaming, sign baby sign.
DIY-HP-LED
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Looks like the Ukrainians are upping their drone operations with massive volunteer support from around the world, not just the fancy military ones either, but the commercial hover and drop dumb cheap shit kind too. The Russians park and sleep at night, then the commercial adapted drones go to work. An operator with little training required can use a cheap drone dropping a dirt cheap bomb and knock out a million dollar tank at night while the crew sleeps in a commandeered house. Enough of these and it will put a dent in the Russians for sure. An Excalibur precision artillery round cost $40K and a small drone and some bombs can be had for $5K and a bigger drone might cost tens of thousands of dollars, but can destroy many million dollar tanks and other vehicles per sortie. At night, not too many of them are shot down dropping bombs and they even seem to do well in the broad daylight from some of the videos I've seen.
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Ukrainian Drone Drops Bombs And Munitions and Destroys Russian Armor
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Ukrainian Drone Drops Bombs And Munitions and Destroys Russian Armor
DIY-HP-LED
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Every now and then I watch one of these to give me some perspective on this war and why I'm a bit enthusiastic about destroying Vlad's army by any means possible. Why I can switch off my empathy for the Russians incinerated in the tanks and killed by the drone bombs. Why it is vital to defeat Putin and what he represents, why it is necessary to keep it up beyond Ukraine, until he is gone from power.
It's a heartbreaking video of the cost of Putin's war on the innocent, Ukrainians get this and much more on the evening news every day and sometimes up front and personal. As the toll mounts, the new weapons pour in and the Victory's increase, the Ukrainians will increasingly want the Russians to themselves. They need the satisfaction of destroying the Russians inside their own country and driving them to the borders of Russia in panicked disarray, shelling them inside Russia as they retreat. Once they are gone, they won't be back, if they try they will be slaughtered en masse at the borders. There might be terrorism inside Russia for a very long time to come over this shit, some won't forget, they will want revenge and will organize to do it.
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The Next Phase Of Russia’s War In Ukraine
It's a heartbreaking video of the cost of Putin's war on the innocent, Ukrainians get this and much more on the evening news every day and sometimes up front and personal. As the toll mounts, the new weapons pour in and the Victory's increase, the Ukrainians will increasingly want the Russians to themselves. They need the satisfaction of destroying the Russians inside their own country and driving them to the borders of Russia in panicked disarray, shelling them inside Russia as they retreat. Once they are gone, they won't be back, if they try they will be slaughtered en masse at the borders. There might be terrorism inside Russia for a very long time to come over this shit, some won't forget, they will want revenge and will organize to do it.
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The Next Phase Of Russia’s War In Ukraine
Budzbuddha
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you beat me on the posting - it is heart wrenching to say the least.
DIY-HP-LED
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Let's talk about Russian analysis of Ukraine....
DIY-HP-LED
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A Ukrainian airline pilot, or he was and another guy enthusiastic about blowing that bridge at Kerch and apparently they might have the means to do this now, or soon will. After the Russians are worn down and contained in the east, they can drive south to Mariupol, cutting the Russian forces in half and those to the west in southern Ukraine will be cut off from supply and will try to retreat to Crimea. It might be too late for those people in Mariupol though, but it will piss off Vlad if his prize bridge at Kerch is destroyed on May 8th or 9th. An attack at Kherson could cut the Russians in the south off from Crimea too and they have very little left in Crimea, all those troops would be trapped in southern Ukraine between Mariupol and Kherson.
This would be the quickest and easiest way to destroy the bridge at Kerch, provided Sammy supplied a few of those big missiles for the systems. In theory they might even be able to do it before or on May 9th. Boy would Vlad be pissed and the southern front and quislings in Crimea would panic, the only way out would be by boat or plane, all their equipment west of Mariupol and in Crimea would have to be either destroyed by them or left for the Ukrainians, both boats and planes evacuating troops and civilians could be subject to missile attack. Russia's Black fleet has also been slowly whittled down these past few weeks and if they are in missile range, it will be whittled down even more.
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Update from Ukraine. Crimea Bridge will be gone
This would be the quickest and easiest way to destroy the bridge at Kerch, provided Sammy supplied a few of those big missiles for the systems. In theory they might even be able to do it before or on May 9th. Boy would Vlad be pissed and the southern front and quislings in Crimea would panic, the only way out would be by boat or plane, all their equipment west of Mariupol and in Crimea would have to be either destroyed by them or left for the Ukrainians, both boats and planes evacuating troops and civilians could be subject to missile attack. Russia's Black fleet has also been slowly whittled down these past few weeks and if they are in missile range, it will be whittled down even more.
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Update from Ukraine. Crimea Bridge will be gone
Roger A. Shrubber
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there is one reason...the Ukrainians have multiple anti aircraft systems, and aren't afraid to use them. where better to station a few of them than close to rail tracks that important materials will be travelling on? if they come in close enough to do any damage, they're close enough to take damage, and they will
Roger A. Shrubber
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i don't think it will be that long and drawn out, this isn't even remotely similar to the situation during the cold war.
russia is sitting on a stockpile of mostly worn out, obsolete, poorly maintained weapons, including their nukes.
i don't consider them inept fools, except maybe for putin for trusting criminals he knew were criminals, since he is one of them himself.
but as you said, their own corruption and lies have been the worst weapon used against them.
during the cold war, there were no real sanctions on russia, not ones like they're dealing with now.
they may be bringing in cash from the EU, but that is temporary, and will dwindle down to little to nothing within a year or two.
they can't buy many component they aren't set up to produce themselves, even China is withholding many critical items, not out of virtue, but just because it makes sense for them. they're trying to join the modern world on their own terms, and they're already having enough trouble with that without the added albatross around their necks that supplying russia with arms, munitions, or vital electronic components would be.
there is no going back, not just for russia, but for everyone opposing them, as well. we won't forget what russia is, and they won't forget that a goodly percentage of the world is contributing weapons that are killing russia's young men and women, and imposing sanctions that are crippling them financially. they're done as a world power. i think the world will pour enough materials into Ukraine to do the job, and then some, and consider it cheap for the result of removing russia from the world domination game.
DIY-HP-LED
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It's an investment, one of money for us and blood for the Ukrainians, but it will ensure their liberty and future. I think Russian money will end up paying for much of this shit including the aid we are providing, it will take a little time, but no way will they get it back! The Ukrainians want these assholes out of their country ASAP and that includes Crimea now, when they are gone they will be slaughtered at the borders the next time, if they are stupid enough to try. Trap as much of his army and it's equipment as possible in Ukraine and either capture or destroy it, it's the only long term security Ukraine will have. Break his army and take back Crimea and I don't see how Vlad can survive it politically, dictator or not.
Roger A. Shrubber
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why wouldn't we support a country that was invaded by people who insist on making themselves enemies, who have openly stated that they were our enemies, and that they were working against us? a country that covertly influenced our elections? a country who would offer our enemies the same intelligence on a silver platter if they were in a position to do so? i don't see why it's even an issue.
DIY-HP-LED
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And had a bounty on American troops in Afghanistan and used weapons of mass murder as tools of assassination on British soil radio active Polonium and chemical weapons. Yep a couple of years ago ole Vlad had the world by the nuts and the POTUS in his pocket. Now the world has him by the nuts and is emptying his pockets of cash. It wasn't just American elections they fucked with your NATO allies have their axe to grind too. The Ukrainians have the biggest axe of all to grind with Russia.
Face it a liberal democratic Ukraine and Belarus would be fatal for authoritarian and imperialistic governments in Russia. The Culture, linguistic and family ties would be too much, 80% of the Russian population live close by in European Russia. There will post war prosperity in Ukraine and depression in Russia that will make the situation even worse for their government. Nothing will move Russia towards liberal democracy more than a liberal democratic prosperous Ukraine and Belarus. Many Russians will get TV and radio from Ukraine and Belarus, even if they go full iron curtain, they can't keep the modern world out. Eventually the soviet generation will die off, sooner in Russia than in most other countries.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
The bounties thing is not proven, and a quick search shows lots of doubt.
injinji
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More likely than not it did not happen.
DIY-HP-LED
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It's the thought that counts! I heard the skepticism too, but it is entrenched in the public's mind. Such things are difficult to prove, the standard of evidence is much different in intelligence than in a courtroom. I think the main point is Vlad has malicious intent towards America and democracies in general and it has be ongoing for quite sometime.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
In a working society, the thought must be held in stasis until a fact comes in. Entrenched in the public mind is pure argumentum ad populum. It’s perfectly possible to fully cage Vladolf in provables, so let’s not use propaganda.
DIY-HP-LED
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Moral perfectionism
DIY-HP-LED
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Ukraine conflict taking heavy toll on Russia's most capable units, Britain says
The conflict in Ukraine is taking a heavy toll on some of Russia's most capable units and most advanced capabilities, the British Ministry of Defence tweeted in a regular bulletin on Saturday.
Ukraine conflict taking heavy toll on Russia's most capable units, Britain says
May 7 (Reuters) - The conflict in Ukraine is taking a heavy toll on some of Russia's most capable units and most advanced capabilities, the British Ministry of Defence tweeted in a regular bulletin on Saturday.
At least one T-90M, Russia's most advanced tank, has been destroyed in the fighting, the ministry said.
Approximately 100 T-90M tanks are in service amongst Russia's best equipped units, including those fighting in Ukraine, it said.