War

The significance of the Donbas
The Donbas is Ukraine's industrial heartland. But its coal-based economy is a heavily-subsidized millstone for Ukraine, not a powerhouse, no matter how important its arms exports might be to the Russian military.

"Donbas is the heart of Ukraine" read signs on the outskirts of Donetsk in eastern Ukraine. This is true, at least economically: The coalfield, which extends across the east to Russian territory, is the fourth-largest in Europe, with extractable reserves estimated at over 10 billion tons.


Apr 15, 2014

printer said:

So you think the Russians can not blow up the satellites? Would make space a junk strewn mess.

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it already is a junk strewn mess, mostly thanks to musk's astronomy fucking satellites.
i'm starting to lose faith in the russians abilities to do anything competently, except steal shit and murder unarmed civilians

printer said:

So you think the Russians can not blow up the satellites? Would make space a junk strewn mess.

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Yep they could and have been able to for many years. I'm just concerned here, is if it is technically feasible or possible, it appears to be on the surface. You are correct and this must be taken into account, how much does Vlad fear the truth? There will be terrestrial transmitters on his borders and some can reach St Petersburg from Finland, if he loses Belarus too, those transmitters can reach Moscow with directed broadcasts up high enough. I wouldn't put it past the CIA to put antennas on tethered balloons next to the borders! Hire all the Russian TV personalities running out of the country and give them jobs in Kyiv.

Unless we do something dramatic we are gonna have a real problem in orbit with space junk, especially if it starts colliding and making more junk. At those relative velocities a rivet of a screw could screw a satellite while making more junk in a casscade effect.

DIY-HP-LED said:

Yep they could and have been able to for many years. I'm just concerned here, is if it is technically feasible or possible, it appears to be on the surface. You are correct and this must be taken into account, how much does Vlad fear the truth? There will be terrestrial transmitters on his borders and some can reach St Petersburg from Finland, if he loses Belarus too, those transmitters can reach Moscow with directed broadcasts up high enough. I wouldn't put it past the CIA to put antennas on tethered balloons next to the borders! Hire all the Russian TV personalities running out of the country and give them jobs in Kyiv.

Unless we do something dramatic we are gonna have a real problem in orbit with space junk, especially if it starts colliding and making more junk. At those relative velocities a rivet of a screw could screw a satellite while making more junk in a casscade effect.

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Voice Of America used to brodcast into Russia but Russia started jamming the signal at the start of this war. They would do whatever they needed in order to keep the criminals in power. If someone did do an effective method in changing the public's mind on the war there would be nothing stopping the Russians from using any method they have to stop it. Putin set in motion events that may not be able to be reversed for a very long time. The powers that be will rather turn their back on Europe and set up the iron curtain once again.

printer said:

Voice Of America used to brodcast into Russia but Russia started jamming the signal at the start of this war. They would do whatever they needed in order to keep the criminals in power. If someone did do an effective method in changing the public's mind on the war there would be nothing stopping the Russians from using any method they have to stop it. Putin set in motion events that may not be able to be reversed for a very long time. The powers that be will rather turn their back on Europe and set up the iron curtain once again.

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We live in an information rich environment these days and there are many holes in the new iron curtain and will be for a long time to come. If past practices are anything to go by the CIA will be doing it again. It won't have much effect now, but in say a few months when they get setup and conditions deteriorate inside Russia, it might make a small difference. They can use standard satellite TV too with free unencrypted broadcast to those with dishes. I understand YouTube is still in Russia or was last week, which surprised me. I think one of Vlad's problems might be, who watches the watchers, all his internet people know the truth, most are young and more aware than the average Russian. If it becomes trendy to revolt among the youth there could be trouble, with cellphones and other tech they could use to organize etc. There is a big generational divide in Russia over this war, the young aren't used to living like shit and many know why they are.

printer said:

Voice Of America used to brodcast into Russia but Russia started jamming the signal at the start of this war. They would do whatever they needed in order to keep the criminals in power. If someone did do an effective method in changing the public's mind on the war there would be nothing stopping the Russians from using any method they have to stop it. Putin set in motion events that may not be able to be reversed for a very long time. The powers that be will rather turn their back on Europe and set up the iron curtain once again.

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Vlad must have had to dust off the old cold war AM jammers! I figured they would have been sold as scrap. Are they broad spectrum and blanket the whole AM band with a power stations worth of energy?

The British had a 500KW transmitter bought from the states cheap when they outlawed high power and set up a reflector wire behind it to direct most of it's broadcast energy towards Germany in WW2. They could replace a German station shut down because of an air raid in milliseconds and tell the people to run into the streets and out of town as the bombs rained down, among other things. The transmitter had a cooling pond. There is another BBC program on YouTube, the transmitter was called Aspidistra, after the plant and popular song about it, it was the biggest Aspidistra in the world. This was NOT the BBC, it was something far darker.
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Sefton Delmer: The Master of Black Propaganda

Dude

BudmanTX said:

Dude

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A primer on the history of radio propaganda, look what hate radio did for America, many have learned at the master's knee.

Radio maybe a way to reach Russians along with TV, Radio liberty/Free Europe will get new funding for sure. The CIA have a history of this kind of thing, but mostly trying to get the truth and news into the Soviet Union. During the war, the British had other intentions for propaganda and the gloves came off. The first victim of war is the truth, civil war too, as you might have noticed in America.

Do they provide free cable TV in Moscow and St Petersburg? Soon many won't be able to afford it in Russia, especially older pensioners and they will cut the cable. Depending on broadcast TV with Gerry rigged antennas, or ones bought from local nerds for a few rubles. Some older people might even switch back to radio and radio is in all cars.

The young usually don't do cable too much and are most likely online. They don't usually have an interest in the news, but when an economic A bomb is about to go off and all their favorite shit is being cut off and the people are panicking in the stores. When conscripts are being killed in a war that none dare speak it's name, then they will perk up and take an interest in what is destroying their lives and dreams.

Even if they don't bring Vlad down, they will undermine the moral of the nation and cause or expand social division, they tried their best with us, now it is their turn. I didn't make the rules, just call the balls and strikes as I see em.

Woo boy …. VLAD got peeps doin dirty deeds

Budzbuddha said:

Woo boy …. VLAD got peeps doin dirty deeds



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They've been executing civilians and they are finding a graveyard in the streets of liberated towns, though the number of dead Russians left is said to outnumber the civilian dead. They retreated after getting the shit kicked out of themselves and almost breaking and running in panic.

I figure they should drop alcohol on the Russians, 180 proof vodka, not even poisoned, or leave it where they can find it with no civilians around. Most of those guys would get inebriated and leave some good bud around too to finish the fuckers off! Then when the boys are have'n a Helluva time, dancing around the fire kicking to polka with an accordion (there's always one), ya attack and mortar the shit outta them using a drone above like God in judgement on their many sins...

Let's talk about why Ukraine is getting more coverage....

printer said:

So you think the Russians can not blow up the satellites? Would make space a junk strewn mess.

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Energy weapons are in a probably advanced state of development. I imagine an orbited civilian model with slow recharge rate and an absolute proscription on pointing it at spacecraft or space assets in good standing, with watchdogs on the ground to hit the “fry the guidance” button should should the trash vaporizer behave oddly. Followed by criminal court for the crew.
Starship could orbit and possibly deorbit it, and Eeyore the Musky thanks you for the business.

DIY-HP-LED said:

They've been executing civilians and they are finding a graveyard in the streets of liberated towns, though the number of dead Russians left is said to outnumber the civilian dead. They retreated after getting the shit kicked out of themselves and almost breaking and running in panic.

I figure they should drop alcohol on the Russians, 180 proof vodka, not even poisoned, or leave it where they can find it with no civilians around. Most of those guys would get inebriated and leave some good bud around too to finish the fuckers off! Then when the boys are have'n a Helluva time, dancing around the fire kick to polka with an accordion (there' always one), ya attack and mortar the shit outta them using a drone above like God in judgement on their many sins...

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Switch that to bourbon or decent Scotch. To folks used to vodka, the novelty factor might amplify the intended effect.

And then holster the damned weapons and then gurney the sodden lot off to a POW camp. Effective, and without your odd blend of mindfulness and bloodlust.

NB: that last is not ad hominem; it is a critique.

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Russians Are Afraid that “Iskanders” in Belarus Will be Next after Belgorod

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Sanctified feces! I just found out that Islander can be fitted with an EMP device on an antiradar mission.

Makes me wonder who else has it and can effectively sanction the use of such a novel weapon.

DIY-HP-LED said:

Now is the time to pour in the switchblades, the tank killer ones too, when the Ukrainians are on the offensive. Using these in conjunction with other goodies we are providing, can help them break through in the south and especially in the east, with it's long conflict, defensive positions, dug in tanks and trenches. They need tanks and planes too, clean out eastern Europe of all the Soviet shit and send it to Ukraine, tell them the EU, America and Sweden will replace it with way better stuff and the Russians will pay for it with seized money. After the war it will be in the Ukrainian reserve, cause they will get new stuff as well.

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Do you have any info on available switchblade inventory? That could have an effect.

printer said:

Voice Of America used to brodcast into Russia but Russia started jamming the signal at the start of this war. They would do whatever they needed in order to keep the criminals in power. If someone did do an effective method in changing the public's mind on the war there would be nothing stopping the Russians from using any method they have to stop it. Putin set in motion events that may not be able to be reversed for a very long time. The powers that be will rather turn their back on Europe and set up the iron curtain once again.

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I remember as a kid listening to my uncle’s shortwave radio in Vienna. Certain frequencies exhibited sounds like an 80s car alarm. I was told that was a jamming signal to keep radio in or out of East Germany. 1973, the year we drove a new Merc Diesel through Fulda.

Gruesome scenes emerge near Kyiv as Russian troops retreat

WARNING: This video contains graphic footage. The devastation of war is nowhere more apparent than in Bucha, one of Kyiv's northern suburbs where streets are lined with the bodies of civilians and burnt combat vehicles.

cannabineer said:

Switch that to bourbon or decent Scotch. To folks used to vodka, the novelty factor might amplify the intended effect.

And then holster the damned weapons and then gurney the sodden lot off to a POW camp. Effective, and without your odd blend of mindfulness and bloodlust.

NB: that last is not ad hominem; it is a critique.

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Just trying to get a laugh out of BudzBuddha, I do humor too, the alcohol and bud should do it alone. However the Ukrainians might not be in a charitable mood with recent atrocities. They sure got hammered in Bucha, the streets are full of blown up Russian vehicles. The executions of civilians did not go over well, could have been the Chechens, they were in the area and many died there.

cannabineer said:

Sanctified feces! I just found out that Islander can be fitted with an EMP device on an antiradar mission.

Makes me wonder who else has it and can effectively sanction the use of such a novel weapon.

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I think Vlad will use whatever he's got and can get away with. The Russians are depending on the cell network for now, but as they get close to the border of Russia they can use their new comm system that uses 4G cell apparently! If he has EMP weapons he will probably use them, anything to destroy as much Ukrainian infrastructure as he can. Perhaps he knows he won't get any of his money back and wants to get his money's worth.