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zeddd

zeddd

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
Japan was very fortunate that someone like Deming existed and was not only available, but seemed eager to help. a very happy coincidence for Japan, and the rest of the world.
Unfortunately, i'm not aware of anyone of Deming's intellect and expertise either being available, or eager to go to russia. The russians had been a very, very insular country, preferring to financially cripple themselves than do business with the hated capitalistic west. That insulation and paranoia led to the downfall of russia, with Gorbachev trying to restructure the country, but ignoring available western markets. after the collapse in 89 he tried removing governmental price controls, but without foreign investments to shore up the ruble, inflation went wild, and further steps to help only exacerbated the problem. when their economy crashed hard, the Oligarch led mafia stepped in and became the law in many areas. those same oligarchs helped form the current government in russia, where they, and putin become obscenely rich, with the people hovering just above poverty line. They still live at least two steps below where they should be, while the top 1% gets richer and richer...
So, while the west may have had a hand in things, it seems most of russia's problems in the 80s and 90s were caused by poor leadership decisions, just like their current problems are caused by the poor decisions of one man...putin
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My wife (she’s from Eastern Europe bordering Ukraine) thinks that sanctions won’t affect the average Russian as they live off cabbage soup and vodka anyway, hardship is just everyday life for them. It will fuck with Putin’s allies, the ones with property in Londonscow
 
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injinji said:
A proxy war is where neither of the major powers do any actual fighting. All the fighting is done by their proxies.
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Vietnam and the first Afghanistan war are considered proxy wars, both sides supplied weapons to highly motivated fighters to kill the other's troops. I guess it must be my definition of a proxy war, cause I've heard the term used for these conflicts by experts.
 
zeddd

zeddd

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This ain’t no proxy war by any definition, it’s phase one of the great Russian chess game.
Here’s how it will go:
Thermobaric ordnance on Kyiv to annihilate the leadership. West will then enforce nfz. Tactical nuke pissing contest then MAD. This is 2 weeks away. Putin is as mad as a bag of frogs. We have fewer options due to our higher moral/ethical position than a psychopath. If we did this to him it would already be full scale nuclear war
 
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zeddd said:
This ain’t no proxy war by any definition, it’s phase one of the great Russian chess game.
Here’s how it will go:
Thermobaric ordnance on Kyiv to annihilate the leadership. West will then enforce nfz. Tactical nuke pissing contest then MAD. This is 2 weeks away. Putin is as mad as a bag of frogs. We have fewer options due to our higher moral/ethical position than a psychopath. If we did this to him it would already be full scale nuclear war
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Looks like Vlad has been check mated and could kick over the board in anger and frustration. Always leave a cornered rat a way out, is an axiom of war and applicable in this situation. Vlad is in a no win situation, not long ago he had the world by the nuts and the POTUS in his pocket, now he is staring into the abyss. He will be remembered in Russia for his blunders, failures and fucking mother Russia, it must hurt like Hell. Vlad's feelings are important!
 
AntoMaria7

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Updated March 6, 3:34 p.m. Kyiv's largest children's hospital was hit by a rocket. It is a hospital for children with cancer, and now 150 children have remained in the hospital's shelter. Among them are children who lost their parents after they died in the 11 days of war.

I don’t understand how despicable and vile and ughhhh i don’t have words for this
 
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The first victim of war is the truth! When the shooting starts and kids start dying the first to go are spies and they don't fuck around. Or perhaps he could have had enemies, bankers often do! Just someone thinking you are working for the other side can be fatal, rumors fly and there are many itchy fingers, tons of guns and pissed off people who lost family and fortunes.
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Ukrainian peace negotiator shot dead amid claims he was a ‘double agent’
 
zeddd

zeddd

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AntoMaria7 said:
Updated March 6, 3:34 p.m. Kyiv's largest children's hospital was hit by a rocket. It is a hospital for children with cancer, and now 150 children have remained in the hospital's shelter. Among them are children who lost their parents after they died in the 11 days of war.

I don’t understand how despicable and vile and ughhhh i don’t have words for this
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He’s a fucking psycho who wants to horrify everyone
 
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AntoMaria7 said:
Updated March 6, 3:34 p.m. Kyiv's largest children's hospital was hit by a rocket. It is a hospital for children with cancer, and now 150 children have remained in the hospital's shelter. Among them are children who lost their parents after they died in the 11 days of war.

I don’t understand how despicable and vile and ughhhh i don’t have words for this
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It will kill many more Russians as a result, things like that just piss people off and make them more determined to fight, they are getting the means to do that now, Kyiv is not surrounded.
 
zeddd

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DIY-HP-LED said:
It will kill many more Russians as a result, things like that just piss people off and make them more determined to fight, they are getting the means to do that now, Kyiv is not surrounded.
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Kyiv doesn’t need to be surrounded, it’s not 1945. They will suck the f oxygen out of the city and everything will die. They will kill millions in seconds
 
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AntoMaria7 said:
Updated March 6, 3:34 p.m. Kyiv's largest children's hospital was hit by a rocket. It is a hospital for children with cancer, and now 150 children have remained in the hospital's shelter. Among them are children who lost their parents after they died in the 11 days of war.

I don’t understand how despicable and vile and ughhhh i don’t have words for this
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He has to stand off and pond them with rockets and artillery. His air force can't operate tactically over the city and the Ukrainians still have air defenses for bombers, they have few smart bombs. He does not have the troops to take Kyiv and if the don't surround it and I mean securely, tons of supplies and arms will flow in. Vlad is only using his air force on cities close to eastern and southern border the border. Soon the fight will be taken to the Russians, behind their lines and they will go after their supplies, starving the fronts, that is their weakness and it is about to be exploited by the Ukrainians.

It is horrible to witness, but every atrocity only motivates the Ukrainians to fight harder and us to do more to help. This shit doesn't work and it's been proven repeatedly, today it makes you a war criminal.
 
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zeddd said:
Kyiv doesn’t need to be surrounded, it’s not 1945. They will suck the f oxygen out of the city and everything will die. They will kill millions in seconds
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I guess we will see about that, so will the Ukrainians, because other than their cities, those things will have few military targets in this war and will be as useless in the field as tactical nukes. Great for cities and murdering civilians, but not much else. You are right, this is not WW2, there will be no large concentrations of Ukrainian forces in small areas, there don't need to be with modern anti tank weapons. They are using old Soviet fall out shelters in Kyiv apparently there are a lot and they've been kept up, so we will see how these weapons do I guess.
 
Polly Wog

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captainmorgan said:
Trump mused to donors that we should take our F-22 planes, "put the Chinese flag on them and bomb the shit out" out of Russia. "And then we say, China did it, we didn't do, China did it, and then they start fighting with each other and we sit back and watch."

Jenius, the dear leader has ended the war if the world will only listen.
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He's about 12 years old. Psychologically speaking. Never had to earn an honest days work.
 
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