BudmanTX
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yeah i've heard that too.....they ukraine does a reset with them and put the back into the field under a Ukraine flag
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DIY-HP-LED
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There's a standoff between Ukrainian and Russian forces around southern city of Mykolaiv, official says
From CNN's Tim Lister in Kyiv and Hira Humayun
Vitaliy Kim, head of the regional administration in the southern Ukrainian city of Mykolaiv, says there is a standoff between Ukrainian and Russian troops around the city.
"We don't shoot anymore. They do not shoot," he said on his Telegram account.
Kim said the Russians had left the military airfield but were still "right near the city."
"In general, not a fun situation — they seem to be here, but it seems like they are not in the city, sometimes they shoot, protect themselves," he said
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"I can't call it a victory, because the enemy was not knocked out, not burned, they retreated," he continued.
Earlier on Friday: Kim said Russian forces had been driven out of the city.
“We kicked them out a bit, but the fighting goes on," he said, “But they are on the outskirts now. We kicked them out of the city.”
From CNN's Tim Lister in Kyiv and Hira Humayun
Vitaliy Kim, head of the regional administration in the southern Ukrainian city of Mykolaiv, says there is a standoff between Ukrainian and Russian troops around the city.
"We don't shoot anymore. They do not shoot," he said on his Telegram account.
Kim said the Russians had left the military airfield but were still "right near the city."
"In general, not a fun situation — they seem to be here, but it seems like they are not in the city, sometimes they shoot, protect themselves," he said
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"I can't call it a victory, because the enemy was not knocked out, not burned, they retreated," he continued.
Earlier on Friday: Kim said Russian forces had been driven out of the city.
“We kicked them out a bit, but the fighting goes on," he said, “But they are on the outskirts now. We kicked them out of the city.”
DIY-HP-LED
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AntoMaria7
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Why i appreciate him?? The way of thinking, i’m a soldier, i protect anyone who needs it. A woman, a child, anyone bombed is a tragedy even if it’s in us, in thailand, egypt, france or mexico. And he’s totally right…if there are bullets there should be enough people to fire them. It’s a big diference between a civil man and a soldier. If you take 100 corporatists out of the office maybe 10 would hit the target, maybe. But soldiers are trained for this…maybe i’m wrong but it’s just my opinion. I can see only good things in a soldier that braves up(i don’t know the idiom for this
)perks of english as the second language) to help others in need, it’s a concious and personal decision. Maybe i’m a little jelous that he has the balls because since this started i really hoped i could go there and fight with them but i’m a coward in the making 
cannabineer
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I like “braves up”.Why i appreciate him?? The way of thinking, i’m a soldier, i protect anyone who needs it. A woman, a child, anyone bombed is a tragedy even if it’s in us, in thailand, egypt, france or mexico. And he’s totally right…if there are bullets there should be enough people to fire them. It’s a big diference between a civil man and a soldier. If you take 100 corporatists out of the office maybe 10 would hit the target, maybe. But soldiers are trained for this…maybe i’m wrong but it’s just my opinion. I can see only good things in a soldier that braves up(i don’t know the idiom for this
BudmanTX
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Nah, you just have to make a choice, do you wanna help and they could use it, or not.....sometimes all it takes is a good stiff drink and the flip of a coin to make a decision.....jsWhy i appreciate him?? The way of thinking, i’m a soldier, i protect anyone who needs it. A woman, a child, anyone bombed is a tragedy even if it’s in us, in thailand, egypt, france or mexico. And he’s totally right…if there are bullets there should be enough people to fire them. It’s a big diference between a civil man and a soldier. If you take 100 corporatists out of the office maybe 10 would hit the target, maybe. But soldiers are trained for this…maybe i’m wrong but it’s just my opinion. I can see only good things in a soldier that braves up(i don’t know the idiom for this
DIY-HP-LED
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There are plenty of ways to help and fight, do what you are good at and try to turn it to this struggle. Join an organization that helps refugees, take one in etc volunteer at a hospital. Soon there will also be plenty of jobs connected to the war and training feeding and housing Ukrainian troops. If you are close to the border you should see some of this activity in the weeks ahead. Nobody will be reporting much on the preparations or what we are doing to help, only what the Russians and Ukrainians are doing.Why i appreciate him?? The way of thinking, i’m a soldier, i protect anyone who needs it. A woman, a child, anyone bombed is a tragedy even if it’s in us, in thailand, egypt, france or mexico. And he’s totally right…if there are bullets there should be enough people to fire them. It’s a big diference between a civil man and a soldier. If you take 100 corporatists out of the office maybe 10 would hit the target, maybe. But soldiers are trained for this…maybe i’m wrong but it’s just my opinion. I can see only good things in a soldier that braves up(i don’t know the idiom for this
BudmanTX
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what were you trained in???Why i appreciate him?? The way of thinking, i’m a soldier, i protect anyone who needs it. A woman, a child, anyone bombed is a tragedy even if it’s in us, in thailand, egypt, france or mexico. And he’s totally right…if there are bullets there should be enough people to fire them. It’s a big diference between a civil man and a soldier. If you take 100 corporatists out of the office maybe 10 would hit the target, maybe. But soldiers are trained for this…maybe i’m wrong but it’s just my opinion. I can see only good things in a soldier that braves up(i don’t know the idiom for this
DIY-HP-LED
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'Putin's nightmare' as Russian soldiers revolt and security forces 'overwhelmed' at home: US diplomat Richard Haass
Appearing on MSNBC's "Way Too Early," foreign relations expert Richard Haass noted reports coming out of Ukraine that Russian soldiers are sabotaging their own vehicles because they don't want to take part in the invasion is a bad omen for Vladimir Putin.Speaking with host Jonathan Lemire, Haass...
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'Putin's nightmare' as Russian soldiers revolt and security forces 'overwhelmed' at home: US diplomat Richard Haass
Appearing on MSNBC's "Way Too Early," foreign relations expert Richard Haass noted reports coming out of Ukraine that Russian soldiers are sabotaging their own vehicles because they don't want to take part in the invasion is a bad omen for Vladimir Putin.
Speaking with host Jonathan Lemire, Haass -- the president of the Council on Foreign Relations-- admitted that Russia's invasion may be unstoppable but in the long-term may turn into a nightmare for the Russian strongman.
"If you believe Vladimir Putin, his invasion of Ukraine is going according to plan," host Lemire began before adding, "That's a dubious assessment, but still what he said during a virtual meeting of his security council yesterday. Putin continued to push false claims that Nazis are in control of the Ukrainian government."
"The speech was intended to push back against reports of logistical problems slowing down the Russian army as well as intelligence from the Pentagon that some Russian troops are surrendering or sabotaging their own vehicles rather than fighting," Lemire stated before asking Haass for comment.
'"I don't think there's any way, Jonathan, he can get his original plan back on track because that ship has sailed," Haass explained, "He was counting on very little resistance from Ukraine, he had no respect for Zelenskyy, he thought the United States after Afghanistan had no stomach."
"Europe he also had contempt for, particularly Germany," he continued. "So he underestimated his opposition, overestimated the capability of his own forces. So now we are clearly on Plan B. Now he is basically turning to quantity, if you will, more than quality to essentially level big parts of Ukraine. But because he is who he is, because he is an autocrat, he has to be infallible. He can never admit that he made a mistake, so that's what you had yesterday. I don't know what the word is in Russian, but it must be something like spinsky."
Reacting to reports that Russian soldiers are sabotaging their own mission, Hass, explained, "Clearly they have more troubles. The Russians aren't used to fighting this kind of war. This isn't what they did in Syria -- it is at a scale they're not used to. The equipment looks old, the troops don't look well-trained, they're not motivated, they don't seem to understand what it is they're doing and why, so I think this is of a larger piece. The idea that there might be some troops sabotaging is really interesting. It doesn't seem to be happening at scale, but this has got to be Putin's nightmare because essentially he depends upon his security forces, not just the soldiers but obviously inside the country. That's any autocrat's nightmare, that as protests begin to mount that the security forces either get overwhelmed or show sympathy with the protesters."
AntoMaria7
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Oh but i’m already helping them through an organization in the capital, collecting donations and sorting whats good to go or not. You’d be surprised how many people don’t have a donating “knowledge”? It’s like they are cleaning up their closet. WHO NEEDS HEELS WHILE ESCAPING WAR?? 
DIY-HP-LED
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We are getting weapons to them faster than we are letting on...
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'We Need To Get Weapons Into The Hands Of Ukrainians' Says Adm. Stavridi
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'We Need To Get Weapons Into The Hands Of Ukrainians' Says Adm. Stavridi
AntoMaria7
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Nothing military related. I do communications so i could give russian soldiers a 4 hour speech about why putin sucks my dirty shoe(i wont say dick cause maybe he would like that) but that’s why i can’t do more than that, it’s just something that doesn’t let me get on that train and its that little voice that says noo dont goo you’ll die your cat will think you left him, so no i’ve made my decision and support the ones who can
DIY-HP-LED
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Putin is on the wrong side of a proxy war here and is in a no win situation, but he will be pressed hard if he wants peace.
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Amb. McFaul: Putin’s Fight In Ukraine ‘Is Just A Proxy War For His Fight Against’ The U.S.
Former U.S. Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul joins Garrett Haake to share his reaction to Russia’s strike on a Ukrainian nuclear plant, and to assess the motivations behind President Putin’s aggression in Ukraine. “I think people really need to understand that this is just a proxy war for his fight against us,” says Ambassador McFaul. “That's the way he frames this: the regime there is just a puppet American regime put in place by us.”
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Amb. McFaul: Putin’s Fight In Ukraine ‘Is Just A Proxy War For His Fight Against’ The U.S.
Former U.S. Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul joins Garrett Haake to share his reaction to Russia’s strike on a Ukrainian nuclear plant, and to assess the motivations behind President Putin’s aggression in Ukraine. “I think people really need to understand that this is just a proxy war for his fight against us,” says Ambassador McFaul. “That's the way he frames this: the regime there is just a puppet American regime put in place by us.”
Fogdog
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I figure my vineyard will produce good barter material. I've stocked up on enough bottles and corks to process next year's harvest. Small hobby vineyard, produces about 900 bottles/season. After next year, people will have to bring containers and I'll fill from barrels.
I need to learn how to chip flint into stone knives and axes. Any videos to suggest?
I'm trying to get my wife to learn how to make clothes out of animal hide. She's objecting to chewing the hide to soften it. I might have to trade her for a more compliant model.
It turns out those survivalists most thought of as crazy were right. That thought pisses me off.
BudmanTX
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Fogdog
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sounds like that scene from Clockwork Orange.
It would be patronizing of me to say I understand what you are going through, being so close to the scene and seeing the wreckage all around you, so I won't do that. But I do care. From where I sit, safe and far away, I'm furious. Most of the world are.
Roger A. Shrubber
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ask the russians if they want to defect...if they do, great, if not, shoot the russians, take the food, and send the truck back with the dead russians in the back...
Roger A. Shrubber
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everything that happens in Ukraine is the fault of the russians...everything. they are the aggressors, they are the invaders, they are in the wrong, period. everything else that happens devolves from that situation...
i personally don't believe that the Ukraines are doing that, especially the part about ordering people not to leave, with "western media" there watching what's going on...but whatever is going on, is the russian's fault.