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I think aid to Israel, Ukraine and funding for the government will be all rolled into one in the end. The magats won't be able to oppose support for Israel and other things like keeping the lights on are included. I'm sure their nazi and fascist wings wouldn't mind though, how they square the circle about marching and associating with Nazis and fascist and supporting Israel I will never know. I mean the GOP has become the home of antisemitism, bigotry and racism in America, while millions of its pseudo-Christian bigot's bray for Palestinian blood, as do many jews. They support Russia, an ally of Iran and both appear to be involved in the terrorist attack on Israel and have attacked America too in one way or another. They want to cut funding for Ukraine for no particular reason that makes any sense at all, and they spread Russian propaganda while doing their bidding and acting like useful idiots. The republican party is a study in contradictions and hypocrisy while self-consistency is the hallmark of integrity.

Something not mentioned in the video was that the bridge did not go over anything important. The bridge was dragged down the road and dumped at the side of it. To be fair, the road was not much of a road by this time.

whats wrong is that, basically it is the Israel right wing governments fault, they moved troops away, plus allowed the festival on the border with a complete lack of security, and are now going on a rampage in Gaza to retaliate, with 100% of the western nations support of Israel bombing and killing children, i smell a rat here, they cant even escape anywhere before an invasion, like Ukraine did,

it couldn't it be they are... wishing to do to others, what was actually done to them,

they were even warned it was coming and didn't take it seriously

bursto said:

whats wrong is that, basically it is the Israel right wing governments fault, they moved troops away, plus allowed the festival on the border with a complete lack of security, and are now going on a rampage in Gaza to retaliate, with 100% of the western nations support of Israel bombing and killing children, i smell a rat here, they cant even escape anywhere before an invasion, like Ukraine did

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do you have a text link confirming this? I doubt any Western nation is cheering civilian murder. I call bs.

cannabineer said:

do you have a text link confirming this? I doubt any Western nation is cheering civilian murder. I call bs.

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if the US and Uk supply aid and weapons to Israel and back them 100%, then by defacto we support their invasion plan

bursto said:

if the US and Uk supply aid and weapons to Israel and back them 100%, then by defacto we support their invasion plan

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That is very different from your earlier claim.

bursto said:

if the US and Uk supply aid and weapons to Israel and back them 100%, then by defacto we support their invasion plan

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We will see what Bebe will do and I'm sure everybody from Biden to Zelensky cautioned him about taking retribution on women and children, just because they act like animals is no excuse to do so yourself when holding all the cards. They should focus their attention on the guilty and getting hostages back. Iran is the best target for retribution, the regime there is on shaky ground and turning the lights off for a year or two might shake them loose, they won't be producing arms without electricity. Also, when hunting down the guilty, don't do it in the west when they can be extradited, hunt them with starlinked drones in Iran, if Elon doesn't object.

cannabineer said:

That is very different from your earlier claim.

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not sure why this needs so much explaining ...

if we supply Israel with money and weapons and moral support from the President, then we are in bed with whatever their crazy government does in response, which is basically killing children, in a urban environment

don't forget it was a catastrophic failure on Israels part

bursto said:

not sure why this needs so much explaining ...

if we supply Israel with money and weapons and moral support from the President, then we are in bed with whatever their crazy government does in response, which is basically killing children, in a urban environment

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but you said

with 100% of the western nations support of Israel bombing and killing children,

which states that
1) every Western nation supports Israel bombing civilians
2) with emphasis on supporting the killing of children.

At best it is hyperbole, but it is how disinformation gets momentum.

So it is quite reasonable for me to request that you back your extreme and provocative statement with specific confirmation from the big media outfits.

Instead you said something completely different, watered down in content and implication, and tried to sell it as a reiteration. Which suggests you got called out and are pulling a (that man) song&dance. Ya can’t just say outrageous stuff like that without specific and confirming references. j/s

bursto said:

not sure why this needs so much explaining ...

if we supply Israel with money and weapons and moral support from the President, then we are in bed with whatever their crazy government does in response, which is basically killing children, in a urban environment

don't forget it was a catastrophic failure on Israels part

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We don't want to see a fish in a barrel situation with airstrikes driving thousands into the sea, they need to offer a way out, if Hamas will let them. I figure the hostages are the only thing holding them back from leveling the place and digging up every tunnel or drilling down to it and pumping it full of water or tear gas. I figure they will blanket the place with surveillance and commercial drones and do a ground assault with selected air strikes on rocket launches and selected targets. It would be the only chance the hostages would have, either that or the militants hundreds of them and hostages go to an Arab country, but most are allies of Iran a different Muslim sect and feud that goes back centuries. Going to Qatar or some other place is the only chance I see for the hostages, or the militants and Hamas involved. Even if they get to Iran, Israel will hunt them down and if Iran took them in it would fix the blame on them too, not that it makes much difference.

bursto said:

not sure why this needs so much explaining ...

if we supply Israel with money and weapons and moral support from the President, then we are in bed with whatever their crazy government does in response, which is basically killing children, in a urban environment

don't forget it was a catastrophic failure on Israels part

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We are all familiar with the power of the Israeli lobby and the many feuds' US presidents have had with Israel over ripping off the west bank from the Palestinians and Jordan and about human rights violations against the Palestinians. The political situation in Israel puts the radical religious parties and rightwing extremist at the center of power in a coalition government. They covet thy neighbor's land, steal it and suppress his ass all for a religion that espouses the ten commandments and there are two right off the top of the tablets of Moses.

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cannabineer said:

but you said

with 100% of the western nations support of Israel bombing and killing children,

which states that
1) every Western nation supports Israel bombing civilians
2) with emphasis on supporting the killing of children.

At best it is hyperbole, but it is how disinformation gets momentum.

So it is quite reasonable for me to request that you back your extreme and provocative statement with specific confirmation from the big media outfits.

Instead you said something completely different, watered down in content and implication, and tried to sell it as a reiteration. Which suggests you got called out and are pulling a (that man) song&dance. Ya can’t just say outrageous stuff like that without specific and confirming references. j/s

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ive explained it already, we support them financially etc..watch DIY's video the Israel gov are a bunch of nuts that got caught with there pants down, now they justify leveling the place.

dont get me wrong im not supporting the other side, just that the response seems ill thoughtout

where was the security,

yeah i can see this.....so beware.....both on twitter and YT....there bad right now.....



just beware of disinformation, also watch out for vids too.....they will be taken from Ukraine and also used in Gaza as something there.....just beware

bursto said:

not sure why this needs so much explaining ...

if we supply Israel with money and weapons and moral support from the President, then we are in bed with whatever their crazy government does in response, which is basically killing children, in a urban environment

don't forget it was a catastrophic failure on Israels part

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What do you suggest the Israeli army should be hitting instead?

Let's talk about the BBC report and Ukraine....

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