VV is singing the blues. From seed to Perpetual Weed.

ITS OK VV WE UNDERSTAND! YOU FINISHED THE J. B4 THE POST.
OR DID THE RAMP KNOCK SOMTHING LOOSE?
IF ANYONE HAS A QUESTION, SENDEM TO THE FRONT OF THE THREAD.
THAT ONE PIC OF THE GREEN HEDGE IS SOLID..
NO QUESTIONS HERE, OLD TIMING MAHN. DB.

Soo...I decided to stop talking about it and just get it done. Just like I always end up doing I planted just about everything. Some of the big one should push ahead of the other two or three... or..however many there are. VV

Here is what the flowering tables looked like yesterday ..... and today. VV

I am glad you got the trimeter.

The probes are time limited.

I just had my Milwaukee meter take a dump.
I contacted the company and they want to send me a new probe,
so I am going to let them,
but I'm sure it is the meter.

I am about to buy a Pinpoint meter on ebay, so I can have two back ups.

Did you lose those calibration beakers I gave you?

You really should calibrate your meter at two points.

Just setting it to 7 because that is what your RO is,
will not be a good way to check it.

I always avoid putting my probe into RO.

RO will cause the reference fluid in the probe, to lose ionic capacity.

Every time you expose your probe to RO,
you shorten the life of the probe.

Pinpoint and Milwaukee reccommend replacing the probes every grow.

Probes with 10' cords are $50 on ebay.

Every time you change the probe,
you need to calibrate the meter.

The Hempwarp is looking strong.

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Thanx Earl, yes they gave me that information with the meter, said always put it in tap water not RO or in the moisture cap with tap water in it.

The cleaning solution that comes with the Calibration kit is right for cleaning the EC truncheon too, and includes another probe cleaning tool. The container they have for the Ph calibration solutions are way bigger than they need to be, the ph probe is not 1 1/2" around. Test tubes about 1/2" around work much better with less waste. Earl built a small rack to hold his that is simple and effective. He had a couple extras of those viels which I am using now.

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I check my ph with tap water, the ro water is not a constant ph which suprised me. Oh, I knew it would fluctuate a little depending on the age of the filter, didn't know it could be 5.4 to 6.4. The probe has a warranty, don't remember what it is, just know I trust the quality and my hydro shop. If there is a problem I think they will help, probably spend a large one there every month. lol
The HempWarp are going to be moving to flood and drain in the next day or two, flowering the next week or two. Probably T-5 the whole way. They will really take off with the switch to two a day watering and the 12/12 light. VV

Please get some 4.01 and 7.00 cal fluid from your buddy
and do a real calibration on your meter.


If you use the beakers I gave you,
it will only cost about 50¢/week,
to get the full usefulness out of your meter.

Vic, why would you get a $250 meter,
and not follow the mfg directions,
to make sure it is giving you perfect data?

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Db. Hears The Word Probe....and Stops Stiring His Dirt. Can I Say "probe" Too!!! Hey Vv The Stocks On The One's, Next To The Othiers, Were Nice. By That Table Thing-e... Dirtbag Lost. Lol
The Coalition To Stop The Use Of Tri-meters Unit Local421....the Probing Of Cannabis Has Got To Stop.....

You should calibrate the meter while it is under warranty,
so you will know if it ever screws up.

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VictorVIcious said:

Here is what the flowering tables looked like yesterday ..... and today. VV

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You're grow looks be-u-T-ful!!!

Widow

Thanx, a little sparse looking at the moment. I calibrate my tri-meter at least everyweek and more often if I think there is a problem. I bought the kit with the tri-meter, has ph7, ph 4, and the big viels that I don't use because I have and use the ones you gave me. WIht tose viels I doubt it costs 50 cents, they are the perfect size. I just fill them to the line. Takes about three minutes to clean both probes and rinse them properly, calibrate and put the stuuf back away. I can post that process if folks think it would be helpful. The only thing I use the ro water for is my reses and the plants I hand water and I don't ph that water until after I had my nutes. My tap water is well water, ph is usually right at 7.3 and 300ppm. That will fluctuate while I checking all four tanks, a little of the res water will stick to the probes and add a few ppm etc. $250 was the cost of the meter, with the calibration kit and tax it was $285.00. Every time I have calibrated them the first ph read is always 7.1. The low side has always been corect for that solution. VV

well ok, this is what a batch of clones is supposed to look like. I borrowed this from Al B Fucts Gallery, its from his thread on cloning. Everyone read's Al's thread Get a Harvest Every Two Weeks, not many pay attention to how he does it. The reason he is able to do this over and over is he keeps mothers and he takes big clones, usually 5.5mm diameter. Thats not quite as big around as a pencil, it is close.
Since our goal is to go from seed to perpetual harvest we will need to do the same thing, keep some plants as mothers, learn how too top them, cut the growing tips off and let them get a little bushy. We have too crawl before we walk, we have 19 blueberry variety plants, we hope no more of them are males, in any case its what we have to work with so yesterday I pruned the bottom 1/3 off those plants and took some cutting. None of them is as large as all of these are. Does that mean the won't root? No, we will do like the dutchman said and throw enough spagettii against the wall some is bound to stick. We will get them to root, it will be a lot slower process.
I posted a few trays of cuttings taken yesterday. Here is a tray of those. You can see they look a little sick. When I take cuttings I try to work fairly quick and then come back and start cleaning them up the next day. We will trim all of these leaves off and even prop some of these up. All we are trying to do at this point is get them to start forming roots. Of the 140 cuttings I took we only lost four on the first day. You can see they length of these is allover the sandlot, some of them are tall and some are really short right now. Thats ok, right now we want numbers. We have three tables we want to fill over the next 6 weeks and even at 24 per table that leaves us a few extra's.
So now that that is done for the day its time to relax a little then go to work. Pm's from rollitup have to be done with the right mellow. VV

What kind of car is that in the poster?? somthing from the 50s did u have one lkike that back in the good old days

hanks for this post that link helped thank god all my clones rooted and they are in soil now.... its really easy i though it would be a little harder.

VV AGAIN, AGAIN. NICE CLONES BIG GIRLS, I MIGHT HAVE TO START LIKE THAT NEXT RUN, SEE WHAT CRIPLET GETS.

NOW BUSINESS:
ARE YOU PADDING YOUR #'S, A STROKE, OR IS THE SHORT TERM BURNT THE HELL UP....LOL., AND A FACE SHOT, DAMMMMM. IM FUGLY THE DOC, SLAPPED MY MOM WHEN I CAME OUT, BUT DUDE, I NOW KNOW WHY WOLVES EAT THERE YOUNG. THE LAST TIME I SAY A MUG LIKE THAT IT WAS ON THE BACK OF A MILK CARTON.....AND THE KIDS PARENTS WERE THE ONES DRAWING IT..... AND ONE MORE THING, STUD....LAY OFF THE ROIDS AND GIVE A LITTLE OF THE GROWTH HORMONS TO THE PLANTS MAHHN.
HEY!!! "ILL GET FONDALDED" DOES AL B FUCT KNOW YOUR PIMPING HIS JOURNAL TOO... DIRTBAG.

CRIPLET HAS A QUESTION FOR YA! "IGF" IF U CLONE IT ONCE, AND POST IT TWICE, DOES THAT MEAN A BIGGER HARVEST....

"ABF" IS A GOD/GROWER I HOPE U GOT PERMISSION.......IF NOT IMA TELL. DB.TWISTED EVILPEACE TO VV EVERYDAY.

I wish, I would just post it ten times and retire. Of course Al knows, I asked him if he would post it, said he would if he had time or I could. They are not in alphabetical order so you just have to look thru.he even said he was going to show up here one day and force me at 'BongPoint' to get an hid light. He is going to have to row a lot to get here. I think he has answered why he doesn't grow in soil about 20 times and the subtitle says anything but soil. Amazing patience. He even gave a time table for going from seed to the two week rotation, I think it ends up about six months. Folks overlook the importance he places on having and keeping them. He would like to be keeping 10 mothers to take 30 clones from, or an average of three clones per mother. Perfect clones, 5.5mm stems from a plant that is veggatatively mature and ready to go into flowering. When he talks about trimming off the bottom 1/3 there isn't any bottom until you get up there aways, at least 6" and probably more like 9". What he in effect is doing is taking a little tree that is ready to flower, throwing some roots on the bottom of it, that takes about 2 weeks, and that little tree is begging him to flower it. Look at the bottom of his plants there isn't anything there, fact is for a lot of that bare length there never was. He didn't have to trim it in vegging, its already gone. SO he doesn't have to veg them just throw roots on them and flower. I am positive not everything he cuts ends up as a clone, he said he throws out more than he uses. By taking the cutting anyway he is training the mothers. And then he runs them into the production line when he has the replacement mother already trained. Al hasn't said you can't do it the way I am doing it, he has said you would be farther ahead to keep some plants out of the first Group and train it to be a mother.
I have always asked how you know you have a good mother if you don't know what the plant is supposed to look like. I have all of the clones marked as to which plant they came from and I will have a fair idea of what a good mother looks like in the next few weeks. Some of the clones from those plants will not make it to the flowering room for a while. By the time we go thru the process of turning these cuttings into clones everyone should understand why mothers are important. VV

so much reading your journal Mr. Vicious.....Thank you, and all the other mentors out here!!!!

VERY NICE VV SIMPLE AND EASY FOR UNDERSTANDING, AND A GOOD VISUAL. ON THE TOPIC OF MOTHERS, YES DIRTBAG NEEDS LITTLE-ER WORDS, WE ARE TALKING OF A PLANT, FROM ITS START AS A CLONE, THAT IS OR APPEARS MORE BUSHY, FOR GIVING CLONES AND A HEALTH-ER
LOOK ABOUT HER. THIS WOULD BE ONE TO WATCH FOR.. A MOTHER. ??? DB.

VictorVIcious said:

I have always asked how you know you have a good mother if you don't know what the plant is supposed to look like.

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I have always considered the best female of the round to be a good mother. Sometimes you can find a few in a pack of ten but everyone has different ideals for their plants. When you have to shell out big bucks for a pack of seeds, you take what you can get.

Very nice grow VV. Thanks for the pics brother. I loves me some eye candy. K+

Aw....looks like I have to wait to give you that rep.

UserFriendly said:

I have always considered the best female of the round to be a good mother. Sometimes you can find a few in a pack of ten but everyone has different ideals for their plants. When you have to shell out big bucks for a pack of seeds, you take what you can get.

Very nice grow VV. Thanks for the pics brother. I loves me some eye candy. K+

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Ohh, I get it now, after you put it in flowering, probably about four weeks into flowering you will know which one is a good mother and then....would you have picked this scraggly looking thing? Its only 22" tall, its not bushy, its kinda sparse looking? I was thinking I should just throw it out?

I think I didn't make my point about mother plants very well. First time growers, like me don't know what makes a plant a good mother, we won't really know until we harvest the plant, thats really what should determine which one would have been a good mother. And if you cloned the bitch, you have some good mothers, sacrifice those plants to set up your system. I may be the only one that has this problem, maybe everyone else can recognize a good mother the first time they work with a new strain, I can't. Hey, old newbie's are slow on the uptake ya know. VV

That plant looks good to me. Nobody is going to be able to look at a plant and tell if it's what they want. Even Sam the Skunkman says this, and he's been breeding since the 60's or 70's. The plant is supposed to look like what it looks like already, you dig? The conditions you put them in aren't the same they were bred in, enter the phenotype.

If you're trying to decide between a few girls, I suggest a reveg. The strongest and fastest plant will be the most photosensitive; there's your keeper. I suggest you hold on to the two best, male and female.