Vote Trump out
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Bear420
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The GDP economy grew at only 1.2 percent, way below the 2.5 Percent the analysts projected. but the fall was because contraction in business inventories, which doesn't say a lot about our future.
Now take a look at final sales , excluding inventories. The economy Grew 2.5 % a good rebound from the winter months and in line with all the forecasts. while inventory's tend to move around without any long term trend.
personal consumption expenditures, grew at a 4.2 percent that is the evidence that long awaited rise in consumer spending and job improvement along with cheaper stable fuel prices. So we are feeling a bit more wealthy, spending more at food and travel buying a car or eating out Americans feel better, The rise from the first 6 months of 2016 where Up 3.1% from 2015. The other is employment Cost Index is up 2.9 percent over the present year. which lead me to believe and shows workers are making more money now and Pay raises are more frequent, then Prior Years, and that is coming in the form of Cash in your pockets, not eaten up by health care and other employer-provided benefits. bottom line People are spending more with bigger paychecks.
We were on the right track with a few things to work on Poor Productivity Growth and shrinking investments.
Poorly Productivity growth is a tough one which is under estimated in no easy solutions. The fed,res. can't just turn on and increase productivity, which new data shows we will be in trouble and long term is not a good thing, but It can be fixed along with investments, it takes time to recover from a recession.
But with time and some intelligence we can and were headed in the right direction.
Now I am really unsure of what will happen, is it all going to fall in the shitter again ? Or are we going to keep going in the direction we did and was making progress ?
Now take a look at final sales , excluding inventories. The economy Grew 2.5 % a good rebound from the winter months and in line with all the forecasts. while inventory's tend to move around without any long term trend.
personal consumption expenditures, grew at a 4.2 percent that is the evidence that long awaited rise in consumer spending and job improvement along with cheaper stable fuel prices. So we are feeling a bit more wealthy, spending more at food and travel buying a car or eating out Americans feel better, The rise from the first 6 months of 2016 where Up 3.1% from 2015. The other is employment Cost Index is up 2.9 percent over the present year. which lead me to believe and shows workers are making more money now and Pay raises are more frequent, then Prior Years, and that is coming in the form of Cash in your pockets, not eaten up by health care and other employer-provided benefits. bottom line People are spending more with bigger paychecks.
We were on the right track with a few things to work on Poor Productivity Growth and shrinking investments.
Poorly Productivity growth is a tough one which is under estimated in no easy solutions. The fed,res. can't just turn on and increase productivity, which new data shows we will be in trouble and long term is not a good thing, but It can be fixed along with investments, it takes time to recover from a recession.
But with time and some intelligence we can and were headed in the right direction.
Now I am really unsure of what will happen, is it all going to fall in the shitter again ? Or are we going to keep going in the direction we did and was making progress ?
ttystikk
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None of which addresses debt and banking overhang.
I think that's lipstick on the pig. We could be growing so much faster if everyone were involved in the economy rather than just the top 10%.
BobCajun
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The reason for the Electoral system is that the founders didn't want common American idiots deciding who was President. Do you think they wanted blacks and women deciding who was President? Hardly. They only wanted "qualified" people to do the voting, meaning wealthy white men. However, it turns out that the Electors can also be idiots. That's the flaw in the system. Who is doing the vetting of Electors?
ttystikk
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The original reason was time, because our country was founded before telecommunications of any kind. Back then news, currency and votes traveled only as quickly as a house could gallop, Pony Express style.
We're well beyond that now and we see the limits of the system for what they are. Hence the need for change.
BobCajun
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Actually, turns out it was because of slavery, some states letting slaves vote and others not, which would give the northern states an advantage. So there's actually no valid reason for the Electoral College system today, because there's no slavery. But I guess the varying populations of the states makes it necessary.
ttystikk
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We don't need a fudge factor for states; that's covered by having the number of congressional representatives vary by state population. And then there's the Senate; every state gets two, no matter how large. The presidential election should be a simple majority vote, independent of the state where any vote comes from.
Winter Woman
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This is a direct lift from Factcheck
The reason that the Constitution calls for this extra layer, rather than just providing for the direct election of the president, is that most of the nation’s founders were actually rather afraid of democracy. James Madison worried about what he called “factions,” which he defined as groups of citizens who have a common interest in some proposal that would either violate the rights of other citizens or would harm the nation as a whole. Madison’s fear – which Alexis de Tocqueville later dubbed “the tyranny of the majority” – was that a faction could grow to encompass more than 50 percent of the population, at which point it could“sacrifice to its ruling passion or interest both the public good and the rights of other citizens.” Madison has a solution for tyranny of the majority: “A republic, by which I mean a government in which the scheme of representation takes place, opens a different prospect, and promises the cure for which we are seeking.”
The reason that the Constitution calls for this extra layer, rather than just providing for the direct election of the president, is that most of the nation’s founders were actually rather afraid of democracy. James Madison worried about what he called “factions,” which he defined as groups of citizens who have a common interest in some proposal that would either violate the rights of other citizens or would harm the nation as a whole. Madison’s fear – which Alexis de Tocqueville later dubbed “the tyranny of the majority” – was that a faction could grow to encompass more than 50 percent of the population, at which point it could“sacrifice to its ruling passion or interest both the public good and the rights of other citizens.” Madison has a solution for tyranny of the majority: “A republic, by which I mean a government in which the scheme of representation takes place, opens a different prospect, and promises the cure for which we are seeking.”
BobCajun
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Maybe straight popular voting would work. Seems to work in Canada and other nations. But as Winter Woman posted, simple majority does have potential glitches. This thing of the popular vote choosing one candidate and the Electoral vote choosing another does seem to be problematic though, from a purely democratic standpoint. When the President is not actually the person that most Americans wanted, I'd say there's a problem one way or another.
londonfog
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your poor retarded heart is about to be crushed.
NLXSK1
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I dont see anything ready to fall on me.... Could you be more specific?
BobCajun
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Actually I did see a video yesterday about Trump not building the wall after all, just making some improvements on the fence. See Trump had to say stuff like that to get elected, but in reality it's completely impractical to actually carry out. But really all you need is a competent immigration policing scheme, instead of setting up sanctuaries for them.
Big_Lou
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Back under your rock, cuck insect.
Incidentally, I asked my sister how she felt about the word "halfrican". She was angry, disgusted, and sad. Really shocked that I'D be in a community/associated with a 'person' of such repugnant calibre. She served as a surrogate mom for me and several of my siblings, her being the eldest daughter of eight. She was a Captain in the Air Force before you were (unfortunately) born.
Beyond being banned from this site, I'd like to see you in a mandated mental care facility and/or seriously considering suicide.
Big_Lou
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londonfog
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So when did you start hating Vets ? What have you done for your country ? Besides trying to make a late career move ? How many houses today sir ?
ttystikk
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Tell us how you REALLY feel.
