Voidling‘s Bunk Bed
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Abiqua
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Sucks because it sounds like you have most of the bases covered....Heat, age [water soak] etc....
Maybe just try a few right into the medium....
Lower the humidity a tad and see if that helps?
HiloReign
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Sounds like a sweet operation, damn seeds don't seem to be agreeing with you though~
A diluted fulvic (I use BioAg) solution is what I use to germinate old seeds with success... It's funny because I recently did an experiment on the same batch of seeds with/without soaking in fulvic acid (seeds are 3 years old): 3/5 for just water (one went mutated/retarded) 5/5 for the solution. There's science backing up my claim, though, pardon me not wanting to put my lunch down any longer
Also, most paper towels contain dioxin (a byproduct of bleaching) which is basically toxic to life... They do make unbleached paper towels though. Good luck my friend...
A diluted fulvic (I use BioAg) solution is what I use to germinate old seeds with success... It's funny because I recently did an experiment on the same batch of seeds with/without soaking in fulvic acid (seeds are 3 years old): 3/5 for just water (one went mutated/retarded) 5/5 for the solution. There's science backing up my claim, though, pardon me not wanting to put my lunch down any longer
Also, most paper towels contain dioxin (a byproduct of bleaching) which is basically toxic to life... They do make unbleached paper towels though. Good luck my friend...
HiloReign
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In short, fulvic acid is a catalyst of enzymes (has other qualities as well). What I do is put a drop or two in the water I plan to soak my seeds in (usually a shot glass size) and that's it (I don't soak longer than 24hrs, I've personally had better success this way). I can't remember off the top of my head the recommended dilution rate... It has other applications as well but I'll leave that for another time. Also, if you're going to buy some I strongly suggest BioAg Ful-Power.
Paper towels are recommended because it works for the most part and people don't know better. "Why do people sprout seeds in material containing dioxin" is the question that I'm asking. Reminds me of the whole snake oil industry and how many are utterly ignorant as to what they "feed" their plants.
Paper towels are recommended because it works for the most part and people don't know better. "Why do people sprout seeds in material containing dioxin" is the question that I'm asking. Reminds me of the whole snake oil industry and how many are utterly ignorant as to what they "feed" their plants.
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HiloReign
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Sorry I should've included an alternative.
I use peat moss pellets that I drop the seeds into after the soak, I take a little chunk of the peat pellet and cover the seeds as well. I've had success dropping soaked seeds right into my living soil but the pellets really help with hungry critters/fungus. I've also successfully used a seedling type mix (50/50 peat moss/worm castings) to drop 'em into, but I stay away from that because it's hard to keep all the different pests in my environment out of the mix til I'm ready to use it.
I use peat moss pellets that I drop the seeds into after the soak, I take a little chunk of the peat pellet and cover the seeds as well. I've had success dropping soaked seeds right into my living soil but the pellets really help with hungry critters/fungus. I've also successfully used a seedling type mix (50/50 peat moss/worm castings) to drop 'em into, but I stay away from that because it's hard to keep all the different pests in my environment out of the mix til I'm ready to use it.
Voidling
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I saw two research on fulvic acid. I think one said it had no effect on germination. The other said no effect on early growth without P. Another website that's not a research paper, says that it's not a generalized germination aide like gibberalic acid, that it helps some plants and may inhibit others.
I couldn't find fulvic acid locally but they did have humic. No gibberalic acid either. So I just stick with my seaweed. It helped with lettuce seed and early growth so we shall see. I had intended to only put in half of blue cheese x lush seeds but it slipped my mind when I dropped them into the seaweed water.
So 11 seeds into seaweed water for a couple of hours and then back to paper towels. I had intended not to do that again but preparing coco coir slipped my mind. I'll transfer them today and hope it's not too late.
I couldn't find fulvic acid locally but they did have humic. No gibberalic acid either. So I just stick with my seaweed. It helped with lettuce seed and early growth so we shall see. I had intended to only put in half of blue cheese x lush seeds but it slipped my mind when I dropped them into the seaweed water.
So 11 seeds into seaweed water for a couple of hours and then back to paper towels. I had intended not to do that again but preparing coco coir slipped my mind. I'll transfer them today and hope it's not too late.
Highlanders cave
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Hey man how's it going. Back in the land of the living lol. I'll check your thread out
Highlanders cave
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Too bad those first two strains didn't germ, They might be pretty old,,,,I grew out both of those and I'm sure you got them from the same peeps I did and that was four years or more ago. The Roms even older. A lot of the seeds in my collection are getting old and I'm seeing germ rates drop off. Not sure what the optimal conditions for seed storage is.
Highlanders cave
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Thanks man, I'll be poking around