Veterans...Get the hell in here now!
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raratt
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D-Day invasion stripes. They were put on before the campaign to identify the good guys to the ground troops so they wouldn't shoot at them.
My day is complete - I did not know that.
raratt
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I have a bunch of useless knowledge.
I'm calling dibs on you for any game of Trivial Pursuit!
Singlemalt
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Comes with age
MisterKister
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Now a days we have glint tape
GoatSoup
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I just watched "We were Soldiers" about Hal Moore and the I Drang valley, Nov 1965.
I was in Quin Nong and they came around asking for volunteers to help the Graves Registration unit process the truck loads of bodies from that battle. I'd been in country for three months and would soon fly all over the country resupplying the SF camps, even Dak To up in the I Drang. We always got shot at going there, 50 cals flying past the tailgate and had to pull up and hard right to avoid the mountain at the end of the valley.
If I have PTSD from Viet Nam it not due to combat, but from the realization that Washington and the Pentagon was not interested in us poor soldiers, but that a war meant more stars would fall on the ambitious cocksuckers that forced us into that hell hole for no reason.
FTA!
I was in Quin Nong and they came around asking for volunteers to help the Graves Registration unit process the truck loads of bodies from that battle. I'd been in country for three months and would soon fly all over the country resupplying the SF camps, even Dak To up in the I Drang. We always got shot at going there, 50 cals flying past the tailgate and had to pull up and hard right to avoid the mountain at the end of the valley.
If I have PTSD from Viet Nam it not due to combat, but from the realization that Washington and the Pentagon was not interested in us poor soldiers, but that a war meant more stars would fall on the ambitious cocksuckers that forced us into that hell hole for no reason.
FTA!
BarnBuster
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Specialist 2nd Class Charles Saunders of Winnie, Texas is finally home, 80 years after the attack on Pearl Harbor. The 18-year-old sailor from Winnie was among more than 400 who died on the USS Oklahoma, but his remains weren't identified until a few months ago through advanced DNA testing.
At about 6 p.m. Thursday 12/2/2021, a Southwest Airlines jet carrying Saunders' remains landed at Bush Intercontinental Airport, under a ceremonial spray of water. Family members, the military and first responders were there for the arrival.
The casket draped in an American flag was removed from the jet and placed on a hearse for an escort to Broussard's in Winnie, accompanied by a large number of law enforcement officers, firefighters and other first responders. Our pictures and video are courtesy of Broussard's with the Houston Airport Authority allowing access.
A full military funeral with honors is scheduled for December 7 in Winnie, the 80th anniversary of the attack on Pearl Harbor. A Graveside Service with Military Honors for Seaman 2nd Class Charles L. Saunders will be held at 10:30 a.m., Tuesday, December 7, 2021, at Fairview Cemetery, Winnie. Exactly 80 years after his death he'll be buried next to his parents.
Saunders served as a Seaman, Second Class on the USS Oklahoma at Pearl Harbor on Ford Island in Hawaii. He was one of 429 sailors and marines who were killed when the USS Oklahoma was moored in the December 7 attack by Japanese forces.
On February 11, 2021, the Defense POW/MIA Accounting Agency (DPAA) notified Saunders’ relatives that the remains of Seaman Second Class Charles Louis Saunders, missing from World War II, had been identified.
The family of Saunders says it provides a sense of relief and closure to finally know the fate of the Winnie sailor who never came home--until Thursday night. Saunders' niece says family members had been hoping and praying for the opportunity to bring him home.
Now it's finally happening, in time for a full military burial December 7, the 80th anniversary of the attack at Pearl Harbor.
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BarnBuster
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Today in Military History:
On December 4, 1917, well-known psychiatrist W.H. Rivers presents his report The Repression of War Experience, based on his work at the Craiglockhart War Hospital for Neurasthenic Officers, to the Royal School of Medicine. Craiglockhart, near Edinburgh, was one of the most famous hospitals used to treat soldiers who suffered from psychological traumas as a result of their service on the battlefield.
By the end of World War I, the army had been forced to deal with 80,000 cases of “shell shock,” a term first used in 1917 by a medical officer named Charles Myers to describe the physical damage done to soldiers on the front lines during exposure to heavy bombardment. It soon became clear, however, that the various symptoms of shell shock—including debilitating anxiety, persistent nightmares, and physical afflictions ranging from diarrhea to loss of sight—were appearing even in soldiers who had never been directly under bombardment, and the meaning of the term was broadened to include not only the physical but the psychological effects produced by the experience of combat.
The most important duty of doctors like Rivers, as prescribed by the British army, was to get the men fit and ready to return to battle. Nevertheless, only one-fifth of the men treated in hospitals for shell shock ever resumed military duty. Rivers’s patients included the poets Siegfried Sassoon and Wilfred Owen, who later wrote of his fellow inmates of Craiglockhart: These are men whose minds the Dead have ravished/Memory fingers in their hair of murders/Multitudinous murders they once witnessed.
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On December 4, 1917, well-known psychiatrist W.H. Rivers presents his report The Repression of War Experience, based on his work at the Craiglockhart War Hospital for Neurasthenic Officers, to the Royal School of Medicine. Craiglockhart, near Edinburgh, was one of the most famous hospitals used to treat soldiers who suffered from psychological traumas as a result of their service on the battlefield.
By the end of World War I, the army had been forced to deal with 80,000 cases of “shell shock,” a term first used in 1917 by a medical officer named Charles Myers to describe the physical damage done to soldiers on the front lines during exposure to heavy bombardment. It soon became clear, however, that the various symptoms of shell shock—including debilitating anxiety, persistent nightmares, and physical afflictions ranging from diarrhea to loss of sight—were appearing even in soldiers who had never been directly under bombardment, and the meaning of the term was broadened to include not only the physical but the psychological effects produced by the experience of combat.
The most important duty of doctors like Rivers, as prescribed by the British army, was to get the men fit and ready to return to battle. Nevertheless, only one-fifth of the men treated in hospitals for shell shock ever resumed military duty. Rivers’s patients included the poets Siegfried Sassoon and Wilfred Owen, who later wrote of his fellow inmates of Craiglockhart: These are men whose minds the Dead have ravished/Memory fingers in their hair of murders/Multitudinous murders they once witnessed.
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smokinrav
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Interesting. As an out of shape burn out, I had no problem meeting 1987 basic training fitness standards. Not with that new lineup of exercises though. Good thing or bad, I don't know.
Females should not have to meet the fitness standards of men. This isn't the Marines.
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Females should not have to meet the fitness standards of men. This isn't the Marines.
Army replaces decades-old fitness exam with more rigorous test
The pushups and situps of the 1980s will be replaced by deadlifts, a medicine-ball throw and other drills better suited to prepare soldiers for modern warfare.
BarnBuster
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Today in Military History:
1964 December 05 The first Medal of Honor awarded to a U.S. serviceman for action in Vietnam is presented to Capt. Roger Donlon of Saugerties, New York, for his heroic action earlier in the year.
Captain Donlon and his Special Forces team were manning Camp Nam Dong, a mountain outpost near the borders of Laos and North Vietnam. Just before two o’clock in the morning on July 6, 1964, hordes of Viet Cong attacked the camp. He was shot in the stomach, but Donlon stuffed a handkerchief into the wound, cinched up his belt, and kept fighting. He was wounded three more times, but he continued fighting–manning a mortar, throwing grenades at the enemy, and refusing medical attention.
The battle ended in early morning; 154 Viet Cong were killed during the battle. Two Americans died and seven were wounded. Over 50 South Vietnamese soldiers and Nung mercenaries were also killed during the action. Once the battle was over, Donlon allowed himself to be evacuated to a hospital in Saigon. He spent over a month there before rejoining the surviving members of his Special Forces team; they completed their six-month tour in Vietnam in November and flew home together. In a White House ceremony, with Donlon’s nine surviving team members watching, President Lyndon B. Johnson presented him with the Medal of Honor for “conspicuous gallantry, extraordinary heroism and intrepidity at the risk of his own life above and beyond the call of duty.” Donlon, justifiably proud of his team, told the president, “The medal belongs to them, too.”
1964 December 05 The first Medal of Honor awarded to a U.S. serviceman for action in Vietnam is presented to Capt. Roger Donlon of Saugerties, New York, for his heroic action earlier in the year.
Captain Donlon and his Special Forces team were manning Camp Nam Dong, a mountain outpost near the borders of Laos and North Vietnam. Just before two o’clock in the morning on July 6, 1964, hordes of Viet Cong attacked the camp. He was shot in the stomach, but Donlon stuffed a handkerchief into the wound, cinched up his belt, and kept fighting. He was wounded three more times, but he continued fighting–manning a mortar, throwing grenades at the enemy, and refusing medical attention.
The battle ended in early morning; 154 Viet Cong were killed during the battle. Two Americans died and seven were wounded. Over 50 South Vietnamese soldiers and Nung mercenaries were also killed during the action. Once the battle was over, Donlon allowed himself to be evacuated to a hospital in Saigon. He spent over a month there before rejoining the surviving members of his Special Forces team; they completed their six-month tour in Vietnam in November and flew home together. In a White House ceremony, with Donlon’s nine surviving team members watching, President Lyndon B. Johnson presented him with the Medal of Honor for “conspicuous gallantry, extraordinary heroism and intrepidity at the risk of his own life above and beyond the call of duty.” Donlon, justifiably proud of his team, told the president, “The medal belongs to them, too.”
The Citation
For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty while defending a U.S. military installation against a fierce attack by hostile forces. Capt. Donlon was serving as the commanding officer of the U.S. Army Special Forces Detachment A-726 at Camp Nam Dong when a reinforced Viet Cong battalion suddenly launched a full-scale, predawn attack on the camp. During the violent battle that ensued, lasting five hours and resulting in heavy casualties on both sides, Capt. Donlon directed the defense operations in the midst of an enemy barrage of mortar shells, falling grenades, and extremely heavy gunfire. Upon the initial onslaught, he swiftly marshaled his forces and ordered the removal of the needed ammunition from a blazing building. He then dashed through a hail of small arms and exploding hand grenades to abort a breach of the main gate. En route to this position he detected an enemy demolition team of three in the proximity of the main gate and quickly annihilated them. Although exposed to the intense grenade attack, he then succeeded in reaching a 60-mm mortar position despite sustaining a severe stomach wound as he was within five yards of the gun pit. When he discovered that most of the men in this gun pit were also wounded, he completely disregarded his own injury, directed their withdrawal to a location 30 meters away, and again risked his life by remaining behind and covering the movement with the utmost effectiveness. Noticing that his team sergeant was unable to evacuate the gun pit he crawled toward him and, while dragging the fallen soldier out of the gun pit, an enemy mortar exploded and inflicted a wound in Capt. Donlon's left shoulder. Although suffering from multiple wounds, he carried the abandoned 60-mm mortar weapon to a new location 30 meters away where he found three wounded defenders. After administering first aid and encouragement to these men, he left the weapon with them, headed toward another position, and retrieved a 57-mm recoilless rifle. Then with great courage and coolness under fire, he returned to the abandoned gun pit, evacuated ammunition for the two weapons, and while crawling and dragging the urgently needed ammunition, received a third wound in his leg by an enemy hand grenade. Despite his critical physical condition, he again crawled 175 meters to an 81-mm mortar position and directed firing operations which protected the seriously threatened east sector of the camp. He then moved to an eastern 60-mm mortar position and upon determining that the vicious enemy assault had weakened, crawled back to the gun pit with the 60-mm mortar, set it up for defensive operations, and turned it over to two defenders with minor wounds. Without hesitation, he left this sheltered position, and moved from position to position around the beleaguered perimeter while hurling hand grenades at the enemy and inspiring his men to superhuman effort. As he bravely continued to move around the perimeter, a mortar shell exploded, wounding him in the face and body. As the long awaited daylight brought defeat to the enemy forces and their retreat back to the jungle leaving behind 54 of their dead, many weapons, and grenades, Capt. Donlon immediately reorganized his defenses and administered first aid to the wounded. His dynamic leadership, fortitude, and valiant efforts inspired not only the American personnel but the friendly Vietnamese defenders as well and resulted in the successful defense of the camp. Capt. Donlon's extraordinary heroism, at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty, are in the highest traditions of the U.S. Army and reflect great credit upon himself and the Armed Forces of his country.
Singlemalt
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Norfolk’s Eddie Shames, last remaining ‘Band of Brothers’ officer, dies at 99
A Norfolk native and World War II veteran who parachuted into Normandy, fought in the Battle of the Bulge and inspired one of the characters in the HBO miniseries “Band of Brothers,” ha…
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A Norfolk native and World War II veteran who parachuted into Normandy, fought in the Battle of the Bulge and inspired one of the characters in the HBO miniseries “Band of Brothers,” has died.
Edward D. Shames, 99, died at home Friday in Virginia Beach. He was the last surviving officer of E Company, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division — the famous “Easy Company” that inspired the miniseries and book “Band of Brothers.”
Shames is survived by his sons Douglas and Steven, four grandchildren and 12 great-grandchildren. His wife, Ida, died in 2019. The couple had been married for 73 years.
Shames enlisted in the Army in 1942. He was only 19, and volunteers had to be 21 or older. So, he forged his mother’s signature knowing she would never agree to it, as told in The Lucky Few, a Pilot series on D-Day.
DarkWeb
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Grandpa had a international just like that.
BarnBuster
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RIP, Bob
Former senator Bob Dole almost didn't make it to his 22nd birthday, let alone past his 90th. More than 70 years ago while on active duty in the hills of Italy during World War II, he was hit by Nazi machine-gun fire.
Dole had joined the Army's Enlisted Reserve Corps in 1942 and soon became a second lieutenant in the 10th Mountain Division. On April 14, 1945, Dole's "I" Company of the 85th Regiment was attempting to take Hill 913 in their zone when they ran into intense enemy fire raking a clearing they had to cross. Dole threw a grenade at a machine-gun nest and dove into a shell hole.
In his 1988 autobiography he wrote, "I could see my platoon's radioman go down … After pulling his lifeless form into the foxhole, I scrambled back out again. As I did, I felt a sharp sting in my upper right back."
Although he left the Army as a captain, in 2019 Congress voted to promote him to Colonel in honor of his service.
In a 1998 campaign video Dole describes his wounding graphically: "Some high-explosive bullet entered my right shoulder, fractured my vertebrae in my neck. I — I saw these — things racing — my parents, my house. I couldn't move my arms, my legs." A medic gave the young lieutenant morphine, and then marked Dole's forehead with an "M" in his own blood. After nine hours on the battlefield before being evacuated to an Army field hospital, Dole was not expected to live.
Although Dole himself often makes light of his maimed right arm and his hospital stay, recalling his "bedpan promotion" to captain, in reality his recovery took him through several hospitals, nine operations, and over three years of rehabilitation and recuperation. He learned to write with his left hand and to rely on that arm, since his other cannot be used.
As one journalist pointed out during Dole's last presidential campaign, Dole neither exploits his disability nor shuns it. Rather, he has "folded it into his life" — through establishment of the Dole Foundation to help the disabled, by pushing the Americans With Disabilities Act through Congress, and by aligning himself with the physically impaired.
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Former senator Bob Dole almost didn't make it to his 22nd birthday, let alone past his 90th. More than 70 years ago while on active duty in the hills of Italy during World War II, he was hit by Nazi machine-gun fire.
Dole had joined the Army's Enlisted Reserve Corps in 1942 and soon became a second lieutenant in the 10th Mountain Division. On April 14, 1945, Dole's "I" Company of the 85th Regiment was attempting to take Hill 913 in their zone when they ran into intense enemy fire raking a clearing they had to cross. Dole threw a grenade at a machine-gun nest and dove into a shell hole.
In his 1988 autobiography he wrote, "I could see my platoon's radioman go down … After pulling his lifeless form into the foxhole, I scrambled back out again. As I did, I felt a sharp sting in my upper right back."
Although he left the Army as a captain, in 2019 Congress voted to promote him to Colonel in honor of his service.
In a 1998 campaign video Dole describes his wounding graphically: "Some high-explosive bullet entered my right shoulder, fractured my vertebrae in my neck. I — I saw these — things racing — my parents, my house. I couldn't move my arms, my legs." A medic gave the young lieutenant morphine, and then marked Dole's forehead with an "M" in his own blood. After nine hours on the battlefield before being evacuated to an Army field hospital, Dole was not expected to live.
Although Dole himself often makes light of his maimed right arm and his hospital stay, recalling his "bedpan promotion" to captain, in reality his recovery took him through several hospitals, nine operations, and over three years of rehabilitation and recuperation. He learned to write with his left hand and to rely on that arm, since his other cannot be used.
As one journalist pointed out during Dole's last presidential campaign, Dole neither exploits his disability nor shuns it. Rather, he has "folded it into his life" — through establishment of the Dole Foundation to help the disabled, by pushing the Americans With Disabilities Act through Congress, and by aligning himself with the physically impaired.
Bob Dole, Old Soldier and Stalwart of the Senate, Dies at 98 (Published 2021)
Mr. Dole, a son of the Kansas prairie who was left for dead on a World War II battlefield, became one of the longest-serving Republican leaders.
DarkWeb
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RIP Mr DoleRIP, Bob
Former senator Bob Dole almost didn't make it to his 22nd birthday, let alone past his 90th. More than 70 years ago while on active duty in the hills of Italy during World War II, he was hit by Nazi machine-gun fire.
Dole had joined the Army's Enlisted Reserve Corps in 1942 and soon became a second lieutenant in the 10th Mountain Division. On April 14, 1945, Dole's "I" Company of the 85th Regiment was attempting to take Hill 913 in their zone when they ran into intense enemy fire raking a clearing they had to cross. Dole threw a grenade at a machine-gun nest and dove into a shell hole.
In his 1988 autobiography he wrote, "I could see my platoon's radioman go down … After pulling his lifeless form into the foxhole, I scrambled back out again. As I did, I felt a sharp sting in my upper right back."
Although he left the Army as a captain, in 2019 Congress voted to promote him to Colonel in honor of his service.
In a 1998 campaign video Dole describes his wounding graphically: "Some high-explosive bullet entered my right shoulder, fractured my vertebrae in my neck. I — I saw these — things racing — my parents, my house. I couldn't move my arms, my legs." A medic gave the young lieutenant morphine, and then marked Dole's forehead with an "M" in his own blood. After nine hours on the battlefield before being evacuated to an Army field hospital, Dole was not expected to live.
Although Dole himself often makes light of his maimed right arm and his hospital stay, recalling his "bedpan promotion" to captain, in reality his recovery took him through several hospitals, nine operations, and over three years of rehabilitation and recuperation. He learned to write with his left hand and to rely on that arm, since his other cannot be used.
As one journalist pointed out during Dole's last presidential campaign, Dole neither exploits his disability nor shuns it. Rather, he has "folded it into his life" — through establishment of the Dole Foundation to help the disabled, by pushing the Americans With Disabilities Act through Congress, and by aligning himself with the physically impaired.
Bob Dole, Old Soldier and Stalwart of the Senate, Dies at 98 (Published 2021)
Mr. Dole, a son of the Kansas prairie who was left for dead on a World War II battlefield, became one of the longest-serving Republican leaders.