Vertical Scrog LED Closet Grow || Flooded Tube/ NFT || 450w - Headband - 2’ x 3’

Are these LEDs going to produce fat, sticky buds?

  • The buds are going to be amazing and you'll wonder why anyone uses HIDs.

    Votes: 18 19.1%

  • The buds will be good, and the yield will be good compared to the power used.

    Votes: 33 35.1%

  • The buds are going to be fluffy and weak and you'll wonder why anyone flowers with LEDs.

    Votes: 10 10.6%

  • Why not just wait and see?

    Votes: 33 35.1%
  • Total voters
    94
  • Poll closed .
jigfresh

jigfresh

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Hey everyone, I finally got to try Girl Scout Cookies (the strain) and WOOOHOOO... I see what all the hub bub is about. Reminds me a lot of the Banana OG high. Really nice. Only the GSC is stronger. It put me out. :)

jojodancer10 said:
@ Dr.D what was some of the problems I have to look forward to seeing with this style of growing? @ jigs do u have any input in this matter? Taking clones every 2weeks and harvesting every 2 weeks?
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That's the way to do things if you have the room and time. Go for it. You'll be harvesting all the time. Never run out.

One other big issue aside from keeping track of things is if anything goes wrong, there's plants always in flower so it's not like you can just wait till next round and clean everything up.
 
supchaka

supchaka

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jigfresh said:
Hey everyone, I finally got to try Girl Scout Cookies (the strain) and WOOOHOOO... I see what all the hub bub is about. Reminds me a lot of the Banana OG high. Really nice. Only the GSC is stronger. It put me out. :)



That's the way to do things if you have the room and time. Go for it. You'll be harvesting all the time. Never run out.

One other big issue aside from keeping track of things is if anything goes wrong, there's plants always in flower so it's not like you can just wait till next round and clean everything up.
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Yeah good point on the clean up. The most significant problem I have seen, firsthand with perpetual growing is hermies. "Typically" a hermie will happen later in flower and the seeds may not even be developing yet when you're already harvesting. Put yourself into a perpetual grow and that same hermie just pollinated your entire grow that had any hairs showing, and being they have a long ways to go you are going to get fully mature seeds. Growing from clones from reg seed would be a lot safer than running female seeds, the dog is known to throw out nanners too so you'll be hard pressed to keep an eye on them all.
 
Dr.D81

Dr.D81

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jigfresh said:
Hey everyone, I finally got to try Girl Scout Cookies (the strain) and WOOOHOOO... I see what all the hub bub is about. Reminds me a lot of the Banana OG high. Really nice. Only the GSC is stronger. It put me out. :)



That's the way to do things if you have the room and time. Go for it. You'll be harvesting all the time. Never run out.

One other big issue aside from keeping track of things is if anything goes wrong, there's plants always in flower so it's not like you can just wait till next round and clean everything up.
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way i did away with the wire. i can move everything out if i need.
 
budbro18

budbro18

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Hell yeah GSC is pretty nice Jig. I like Cherry Pie better. Has more of that zing and doesnt put you to sleep as much as the GSC. Better flavor too imo. Reminds me of the diesel high with a nice extra ziing and the flavor of a more indica fruity hybrid. I want to grow some so bad but a clone would be impossible for me to find and i dont want to settle for anything less than tha truth. haha

Cant wait for the cookie fam to release seeds!!! Probably wont be for a few months maybe even half a year or more. But once they do theyre gonna shit on all these companies attempting to make cookies and cherry pie and SS seeds.


As far as perpetuals go, feeding was always where i got pissed and didnt feel like putting the time in.

When you have 4+ cycles going on at once, you have to have 4 times the amount of nutrient solution. So instead of feeding your veg tent from one rez/container and feeding your flower tent from one rez/container you have to make 2 or more rezs per room.

I mix in gallons and 5 gallon water cooler jugs. Clean bubbled tap in the 5 gallons that can be used for both tents/rooms and i make a gallon or 2 for each tent depending on when i plan to be back and how much the strain is drinking due to heat/humidity/strain/medium.

So when i ran perpetual, and wanted to let my partner take care of it for 2 or 3 days, i had to mix up 4 gallons of nutes for veg. 2 of each strength. Mark each correctly and write it down as a back up. Then make anywhere from 4-8 gallons of nutes for flower depending on pot size and all the other shit.

So at sometimes id have anywhere from 6 to 10 to even 12 gallons of nute solution mixed up along with 5 gallon jugs of bubbled tap water.

Needless to say it got hectic. Especially when you have SSU in one flowering groups jug and no SSU in the other and they accidently get mixed up.



Ive converted to a 2 month perpetual if you will.

Throw seeds, veg for 1-2 months, take clones and transplant before throwin em in to flower.

Clones root in 7-14 days, veg until the flowering is done (usually 8-9 week strains) so the first round of clones get just under 2 months of veg.

Take clones of all the clones of the mothers. Labeled correctly. Then allow those to root 7-14 days then veg til flowering is done.

At this point ive narrowed down my keeper mother so i take clones off the keepers and let them sit in veg until the clones root for security.

Throw all the plant in flower once the clones root and then transfer the clones to veg. They get 2 months of veg total and about 2 weeks before the end of veg i take clones again so that by the time the veg is ready to flower i am transplanting clones into veg.

At this point ill take an extra few clones than i plan to run in my flower tent and hold them back to be mothers so i wont have to stress/lose my prized cut.


Leave momma in the corner to veg and take a clone for a new momma every other harvest or so.

While im cutting clones ill super top the mom making her into a very bushy plant. Usually taking them from 3 foot down to 1 maybe 1 1/2 foot tall.

This causes a ton of side branches to grow like a shrub in your front yard and ill usually let momma retire in the center of the flower tent to send her off with a bang!


Thats my set up now and it is simple as can be and i harvest enough every 2 month to last me most of 1 month and enough change to line my pocket to keep smokin til the next harvest. Hopefully once we step up production ill be able to double production allowing me to pull twice as much per 2 months.
 
jigfresh

jigfresh

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Hey budbro... didn't want to clog up the other thread, but wanted to answer your question. I had two complete grows while I wasn't smoking. Both Dog and Banana Kush. The second was the best bud I had ever grown. I didn't smoke for about 7 months. Eventually the second harvest just needed to be tested lol.
 
Dr.D81

Dr.D81

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supchaka said:
Yeah good point on the clean up. The most significant problem I have seen, firsthand with perpetual growing is hermies. "Typically" a hermie will happen later in flower and the seeds may not even be developing yet when you're already harvesting. Put yourself into a perpetual grow and that same hermie just pollinated your entire grow that had any hairs showing, and being they have a long ways to go you are going to get fully mature seeds. Growing from clones from reg seed would be a lot safer than running female seeds, the dog is known to throw out nanners too so you'll be hard pressed to keep an eye on them all.
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this could be a problem but with the dog i will through them in a mix seed bag if it was some unknown bag seed it would just blow
 
Dr.D81

Dr.D81

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budbro18 said:
Hell yeah GSC is pretty nice Jig. I like Cherry Pie better. Has more of that zing and doesnt put you to sleep as much as the GSC. Better flavor too imo. Reminds me of the diesel high with a nice extra ziing and the flavor of a more indica fruity hybrid. I want to grow some so bad but a clone would be impossible for me to find and i dont want to settle for anything less than tha truth. haha

Cant wait for the cookie fam to release seeds!!! Probably wont be for a few months maybe even half a year or more. But once they do theyre gonna shit on all these companies attempting to make cookies and cherry pie and SS seeds.


As far as perpetuals go, feeding was always where i got pissed and didnt feel like putting the time in.

When you have 4+ cycles going on at once, you have to have 4 times the amount of nutrient solution. So instead of feeding your veg tent from one rez/container and feeding your flower tent from one rez/container you have to make 2 or more rezs per room.

I mix in gallons and 5 gallon water cooler jugs. Clean bubbled tap in the 5 gallons that can be used for both tents/rooms and i make a gallon or 2 for each tent depending on when i plan to be back and how much the strain is drinking due to heat/humidity/strain/medium.

So when i ran perpetual, and wanted to let my partner take care of it for 2 or 3 days, i had to mix up 4 gallons of nutes for veg. 2 of each strength. Mark each correctly and write it down as a back up. Then make anywhere from 4-8 gallons of nutes for flower depending on pot size and all the other shit.

So at sometimes id have anywhere from 6 to 10 to even 12 gallons of nute solution mixed up along with 5 gallon jugs of bubbled tap water.

Needless to say it got hectic. Especially when you have SSU in one flowering groups jug and no SSU in the other and they accidently get mixed up.



Ive converted to a 2 month perpetual if you will.

Throw seeds, veg for 1-2 months, take clones and transplant before throwin em in to flower.

Clones root in 7-14 days, veg until the flowering is done (usually 8-9 week strains) so the first round of clones get just under 2 months of veg.

Take clones of all the clones of the mothers. Labeled correctly. Then allow those to root 7-14 days then veg til flowering is done.

At this point ive narrowed down my keeper mother so i take clones off the keepers and let them sit in veg until the clones root for security.

Throw all the plant in flower once the clones root and then transfer the clones to veg. They get 2 months of veg total and about 2 weeks before the end of veg i take clones again so that by the time the veg is ready to flower i am transplanting clones into veg.

At this point ill take an extra few clones than i plan to run in my flower tent and hold them back to be mothers so i wont have to stress/lose my prized cut.


Leave momma in the corner to veg and take a clone for a new momma every other harvest or so.

While im cutting clones ill super top the mom making her into a very bushy plant. Usually taking them from 3 foot down to 1 maybe 1 1/2 foot tall.

This causes a ton of side branches to grow like a shrub in your front yard and ill usually let momma retire in the center of the flower tent to send her off with a bang!


Thats my set up now and it is simple as can be and i harvest enough every 2 month to last me most of 1 month and enough change to line my pocket to keep smokin til the next harvest. Hopefully once we step up production ill be able to double production allowing me to pull twice as much per 2 months.
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i am getting a clone from MI of the GSC will not be running but a shelf or two of it but cool for head stash. i feed with the dirt and teas, so i water first then the flower tea. after i mix flower tea with more water and and fish poo and it is done
 
budbro18

budbro18

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Yeah itd be rough not smokin and growin. Banana was some bomb when we had it around. Never grew it but that shit was super stanky.

DR, ive never used teas but always wanted to. Lucky you got the real deal in clone form. Always wanted to run the cherry pie and it looks more sat leaning and plants always looked like they yielded more than gsc.

One of these days haha.
 
Dr.D81

Dr.D81

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yea i am looking for cherry pie have some cherry puff (cherry pie X og) on the way, and yea i think the GSC yields shit but cross well from what i have seen.
 
supchaka

supchaka

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My GSC was questionable with the genetics. It yielded 7.3oz on a 5 gal bucket I think and I pulled it at 8.5 weeks. I got a cherry pie clone from Emily today and that shit is STRONG imo. I'll be doing it some justice!
 
jojodancer10

jojodancer10

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AWow so much info I need to save some.@ budbro I hope I can use some of ur ideas bro's if its cool with you?. I have a 2x4 tent with a 4 foot 8 bulb flo light for my moms.on top of the big flo is where I keep my freshly cut clones with a 2 foot 4 bulb flo for 2 weeks.from there the clones get moved to the fishtank grow house that I made with a mini ebb& drain I got pictures of it a few pages back.once the clones show good roots I plan on putting them in the flower tent .now the rez in the flower tent is a 40gal.I only put water in my rez ph at 5.3-6.0. I like to mix my plant food in 5 gal buckets and water by hand every 2-3 days and give them water 2-3 times a week. So once the clones move from the mom tent to the fishtank I plan on taking another 12 clones and start it all over again.non of my plants hurmied I ran them b4.I only have 4-6 moms so I'll never run out of clones.
 
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