Vegan Organics Aka Veganics With Matt Rize

first be said:

IMO, it is better to have the plant go through her "fall colors" near harvest. I prefer the smoke at least. I have also read some interesting studies on high N fertilizer in flower, and low THC content (hemp production). In Hemp, that would be a good thing.

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Sorry... was only able to dig up one bookmarked article on the subject though. Couldn't find the pdf file on it. Maybe on another computer, not sure. Anyway, check it out.

These experiments show that the THC content of leaves decreases with increasing N doses. This phenomenon is favorable for agricultural production, because nitrogen fertilization will increase stem yield and simultaneously decrease THC content of the plant significantly. Additional studies are necessary to determine optimal N dose/ha, time of application, fertilizer type and the lowest THC content achievable under field conditions.

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http://druglibrary.net/olsen/HEMP/IHA/jiha4207.html

Matt Rize said:

I pH everything all the time, especially my foliar solutions. pH is really important (so is water alkalinity, especially for hydro), and even if you are not adjusting your pH, watching it give you valuable info. The pH scale is exponential, meaning the different between 6.0 and 6.1 is small, but the difference between 6.0 and 6.5 is huge. Say the difference between 6.0 and 6.1 is "x". The difference between 6.0 and 6.5 is "x" to the fifth power.

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So what PH do you mix your nutes to?

summitoker said:

So what PH do you mix your nutes to?

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start out lower, 6.3, move up to 6.5 by late veg, sometimes up over that in flower. the nute availability changes with pH, and the plants nute requirements change with life cycle.

the roots are exuding weak organic acids, all my nutes are organic acids, and my water is high pH. but i still find using target pH (especially with molasses) is a lil too low for the whole cycle. When the stems start going purple I let the pH rize up a little.

that molasses, i tell you what, is very acidic and stable. it also neutralizes the chloramines and chlorine, good stuff. i use about 5mL per reservoir and let it bubble for 5 minutes before adding my nutes supplements.

What I am using right now:
BioCanna Vega,
Canna: rhizo, zyme
Bioag humic, fulvic
Organicare calplex and huvega (Ca and Mg)
Mineral Matrix for other micros (couple drops per res, literally)
Technaflora seaweed

All at about 1/4 strength, with teas every fourth watering instead of food

Tea is alaskan 1/2cup humisoil, 1/2 cup homemade compost, 2 tbs molasses, 1 tsp yucca extract per gallon: bubble 24 hours, dilute 1:20. foliar and top feed

Foliar is Ful-power from bio-ag with calplex and huvega and wet betty

Ill be using the bioboost and flores soon come.

oh yeah, mucho NEEM, rotate eisnstien, dynagro and azamax, not effing around anymore!

No point to my post, just didn't like seeing 666 replies.

anybody knows anything about these guys?

http://www.westbridge.com/products-organic.html

looks kosher, omri, and a large selection of micro and supps......

beeznutz said:

anybody knows anything about these guys?

http://www.westbridge.com/products-organic.html

looks kosher, omri, and a large selection of micro and supps......

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kushman was using the Nitrogen formula from them. I never have. They do look interesting.

Matt Rize is singing "so much drama(trouble) in the world":

So... discovery channel is filming for some kind of norcal medical marijuana reality type show, I don't really know much. They came up to film kk and he brought the cameraman down to my house. Well, we were hanging out and kk had to say something that pissed me off, and I completely broke him down on camera. kk and I have since had a falling out and I had to step back and let him go his way, although we are still working on a book with my sister.

Now the tv show folks contacted me about going back on camera to explain what happened. They said I come off as the good guy, but ya know. Not trying to feed the drama or have a camera man follow me around.

That means they want to use the argument on TV, and get cartoonishly animated when I'm bugging out. LOL

Should I go back on to explain what happened that day... and possible since?

Why leave it up to them/anyone else to explain what happened

upthearsenal said:

Why leave it up to them/anyone else to explain what happened

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true that. the catch is that we have to work on the book this week with my twin ava rize. wonder twin powers activate! form of...

Matt Rize said:

Matt Rize is singing "so much drama(trouble) in the world":

So... discovery channel is filming for some kind of norcal medical marijuana reality type show, I don't really know much. They came up to film kk and he brought the cameraman down to my house. Well, we were hanging out and kk had to say something that pissed me off, and I completely broke him down on camera. kk and I have since had a falling out and I had to step back and let him go his way, although we are still working on a book with my sister.

Now the tv show folks contacted me about going back on camera to explain what happened. They said I come off as the good guy, but ya know. Not trying to feed the drama or have a camera man follow me around.

That means they want to use the argument on TV, and get cartoonishly animated when I'm bugging out. LOL

Should I go back on to explain what happened that day... and possible since?

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IDK, man. I wouldn't let a TV crew incite something that could come back to bite you in the form of a ruined friendship that can come from publicly bruising someones ego. I'd talk to Kushman in private, and work out a way that you guys can both save face, and explain your views from both sides. I say that without knowing the nature of what was said, I guess I'll find out soon enough though...

i usually let things cool off, let time heal things ya know? but man, if it's on tape i'd go talk to kushman asap and come down to an agreement and then hit the tv crew with some sort of explanation. seriously, both of you guys are public figures and trying to spread something good on this crazy place.......

Well, just stay diplomatic. I would talk to him and let him know how I feel, without letting him know any of my intentions (that's if you don't trust him), and tell him that he won't be able to walk all over me. If he really is the way he is, then just drop him man, seems like a total a-hole. Either way, I don't see how this guy can continue to bullshit something like how much yield a client will get per light without being found out eventually. With that in mind, just stay honest, and the truth should come out.

Good Luck bro

damn matt, some pretty harsh words for KK, but if thats how you feel, do what you gotta do. If somebody is biting the hand that feeds them (figure of speech) then F*CK em!!!!!
sometimes people need to go their seperate ways b4 things get even worse....

sharpshoota said:

damn matt, some pretty harsh words for KK, but if thats how you feel, do what you gotta do. If somebody is biting the hand that feeds them (figure of speech) then F*CK em!!!!!
sometimes people need to go their seperate ways b4 things get even worse....

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more great advice. thanks all.

Hey, anyone have any experience using fermented fruit extracts in through flower or during the flush phase. Currently getting some mangoes and papaya to juice

Matt Rize said:

Some tips i've learned along the way (3 vegan runs complete):
- feed heavy, supplementation will be needed for advanced gardeners
- brew microbe teas, low NPK so no worries
- feed microbes, in the brewer and in the soil.
- IMHO and according to the microscope, BioBoost cuts flower time 3 to 10 days depending of course.
- feed all mixed nutes asap and flush your res/hoses/wand or whatever you top feed with
- oh yeah, top feed the bio canna line. too thick to drip or flood/drain.
- don't flush until the last week or two. no residues from veganics.
- no worries with a vegan garden. don't have to wash hands after, non-toxic nutes!
- also, if in the budget, the BioBoost can be used in small amounts at any time after flipping.

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Are you thoughts still that bb cuts flowering time? I really don't know, or can't tell, what the bb has done...

upthearsenal said:

Are you thoughts still that bb cuts flowering time? I really don't know, or can't tell, what the bb has done...

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from my research, the Bioboost is ooligosacharride based, and this triggers stress signals in the plant without actually stressing them. The stress is supposed to increase resin production. I think I was growing a jack hybrid that flowered faster than I had anticipated...

fadahigh said:

Hey, anyone have any experience using fermented fruit extracts in through flower or during the flush phase. Currently getting some mangoes and papaya to juice

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I have not. I would use only water at the end, you might end up with a harsher smoke than intended.