veg time
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toastedleaf
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not long if you want a space to move around
hotrodharley
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Suggest removing one of your five.
420 Garden
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LST the hell out of em and flip at 4 to 5 weeks. If you lollipop them well and put an oscillating fan under the canopy and an oscillating fan over the top you will be fine. GL!
calvin.m16
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Some plants are short, some plants are tall, you won't know when its optimal to flip unless you've grown a particular plant before. Hate to be that guy, but probably veg for 3 weeks then flip if your confined to a tent.
Thundercat
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Like Calvin said the amount of veg time will very much depend on the genetics you are growing and how fast they grow IN YOUR ENVIRONMENT. The same cutting can grow differently in 2 different grows.
Also, something to note, you can't force a plant to flower. Unless it's reached genetic maturing then it won't flower. You can run plants 12/12 from seed and depending on the genetics it will take 4-8 weeks before they begin showing signs that they are beginning to flower. This is also part of why I try to explain to people that flowering time doesn't begin when you switch a plant to 12/12 lighting. It begins when the plant begins to show flowers, and that is consistent across most/all plants and is basic botanical science. The idea that "it's flowering once I switch my lights to 12/12" is strictly a cannabis grower concept/fallacy.
Also, something to note, you can't force a plant to flower. Unless it's reached genetic maturing then it won't flower. You can run plants 12/12 from seed and depending on the genetics it will take 4-8 weeks before they begin showing signs that they are beginning to flower. This is also part of why I try to explain to people that flowering time doesn't begin when you switch a plant to 12/12 lighting. It begins when the plant begins to show flowers, and that is consistent across most/all plants and is basic botanical science. The idea that "it's flowering once I switch my lights to 12/12" is strictly a cannabis grower concept/fallacy.
calvin.m16
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Love that you explain the genetic flowering timeline too, I have actually found a few of my plants show preflower in veg as soon as 6 weeks but some can not show preflower for 10 weeks if you count the time they are a rooted clone to when they move to my flowering room. I did a recent pheno hunt and a few of the seedlings that I sent to flower (after cloning) took easily an extra 2 weeks before the flowering actually set in properly.
It's interesting because I have seen guys run grows where they buy clones and just have 12/12 rooms and sometimes those plants get a few feet tall before they even start "stretching". I'm sure 90% of the reasoning is to save a few hundred dollars per/month on electricity.
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ALPHA.GanjaGuy
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no one can really answer this for you but you.. I am about to run 24 in my 4x4 I have done anything from 5 in 5gal's (could have prob done 7gal) and up to 32 in 1gal (could have done 36 but needed room for a tower fan).. it all depends on you and your end goal and level of comfort when things get crazy }:{D
Relaxed
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you must like spending all day with the plants? Nothing less the 5 gallon so you don't need to tend to them but one time a week. 1 gal in flower i guess watered every other day? Ive got it down. I got other things in life to do then tend to plants all day.
Relaxed
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depending on the heritage it's gonna stretc h in flower 2-4 times size veg size with sativa taller side so yep unless you have a tall room and powerful lamps. If you run out of room or have an uneven canapy see my thread in newbie section on what to do.
ALPHA.GanjaGuy
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I really prefer having a variety after harvest.. and I love spending time with my girls, I’m not just doing it for the end result! I’m in the garden every day whether I’m watering or not. But yea, like i mentioned, it depends on the individual
Thundercat
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Personally I got over long veg times many many years ago. After a couple grows vegging for a month or more only to end up with a male plant. I started running clones and only giving them about 2 weeks to grow roots into their 6 inch pots in a flood and drain system. I could fit 45ish into a 4x4 tray and they went into flower about 7-8 inchs tall. I would trim off the lowest branches and encourage a large single cola(usually had a few small branches below it at the end). I was easily able to average 20g dried per plant, but usually got between 25-30 per plant depending on genetics. With 45ish plants in flower at once, that was 900-1200gs dried from a single 1k hps over a 4x4 tray with minimal maintenance.
If they will fill your space then there isn't a reason. Different genetics will grow drastically different though, and unless you are running from clones you won't know how the plants you have will respond. Even different seeds from the same seed pack can grow drastically different, it all comes down to genetics and environment, that's whats called a phenotype. Even the same clones can grow differently in two people's gardens unless everything is totally identical.
