Veg and Bloom Grow

robert030188

robert030188

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Actually she was just watered today after not being watered for 4 days...most people say curling of the bud leaves are signs of a heavy resin producer, she's been triched up for a while now...but you know what, i'll wait a lil longer til my next watering...maybe 5 or 6 days, i'll let you know if it straightens them out Lucious
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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I'm in the last week of flower now, and my V+B plant is yellowing quite a bit more than my control plants. I'm not sure, but it also looks like yield might be slightly less. Taste test in a couple weeks..
 
PJ Diaz

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Here's 4 plants. The two on the right are from the same mother as the V+B plant and grown exactly the same except the nutes. The one in the rear-left is the V+B plant. Started feeding all plants water only about 5 days ago.

The one in the front left is a different strain with a shorter veg time.

 

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robert030188

robert030188

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Hmm wonder why man...i wonder if the veg+blom plant absorbed the nutes quicker...im only doin a one week flush for mine....how many days before do you flush PJ?
 
Cuebossa

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What kind of media are you growing in? It looks like under-feeding to me. If this is your first grow with veg+Bloom then you should be able to dial it a little closer on your next go.
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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Cuebossa said:
What kind of media are you growing in? It looks like under-feeding to me. If this is your first grow with veg+Bloom then you should be able to dial it a little closer on your next go.
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Coco with perlite. Drain to waste. 1tsp/gal, which is already on the heavy side according to their feed schedule. I don't think I'll be using it again, I like a little more control over my nutes than V+B allows.
 
Cuebossa

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"Control" isn't something I stress about anymore with my garden now that I know I can use a single product to keep my plants satisfied through their entire life. My plants are happy and the living is easy.
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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Cuebossa said:
"Control" isn't something I stress about anymore with my garden now that I know I can use a single product to keep my plants satisfied through their entire life. My plants are happy and the living is easy.
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Well, I'm glad that's working out for you. However, plants need different nutrient ratios during different periods of life. Also, not water is created equal. I already have a lot of calcium in my water, so I really don't need all the C they put into V+B. All it does for me is create water deposits and potentially locks out P, and makes me need more pH down. Not to mention that different strains have different requirements. Also, V+B only didn't keep my plant happy through it's entire life. It's a little sad the week before harvest, unlike the plants in my standard nute regime.
 
robert030188

robert030188

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While you're here PJ, see anything wrong with my girl? Im gonna be using MOAB next run for flower...can't wait, but it'll be a while before i hit another harvest probably four or so months...so yeah i have time to get my game up
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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robert030188 said:
While you're here PJ, see anything wrong with my girl? Im gonna be using MOAB next run for flower...can't wait, but it'll be a while before i hit another harvest probably four or so months...so yeah i have time to get my game up
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It's really tough to say from pics especially under hps. I've never used MOAB. I've been using hydroplex for my PK booster, and my plants seem to like it. I dunno, but MOAB seems kind of extreme to me.

I'd suggest coco/perlite in place of soil. You can water/feed them every day without risk. The plants really seem to like fresh nutes every day too. Personally I think the best supplement out there is Liquid Kharma. If I was forced to run a base and one supplement only, LQ would be the one.
 
robert030188

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My friend grows with MOAB and his nugs feel like rocks...you only use it twice in flower, i got the calcium issue fixed...i was just refering to the leaves curling down...can't be over watering it was almost bone dry when it was watered after 4 days
 
Bakatare666

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robert030188 said:
My friend grows with MOAB and his nugs feel like rocks...you only use it twice in flower, i got the calcium issue fixed...i was just refering to the leaves curling down...can't be over watering it was almost bone dry when it was watered after 4 days
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I just got some MOAB, and was reading the label about only using it 2x, once at the beginning and towards the end of flower, I just added some and I'm getting into the 4th week, do you think it'll be OK to feed with it again in another 3 or 4 weeks?
 
robert030188

robert030188

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3 weeks should be fine i'd think, just flush a week before harvest...the directions are just a guideline in my book, i might use three times during flower...also i'll be getting great white supplement too, i'd go for it bro can't hurt
 
Bakatare666

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robert030188 said:
3 weeks should be fine i'd think, just flush a week before harvest...the directions are just a guideline in my book, i might use three times during flower...also i'll be getting great white supplement too, i'd go for it bro can't hurt
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Thanks, and I don't know how long on the flower, it's bagseed.
My last 4 out of 4 have all been ladies, but different ratios of Indica/ Sativa.
This one, started out looking heavy Indica, (which is what I wanted so I can finish and use this same area to veg for next outdoor season), but now she's looking almost 50/50.
Vegged for 30 days, pic at 21 daysView attachment 2487599
Fed at 25 days, pic at 28 days.View attachment 2487600
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Until day 55, only 98w of CFL's, then added another 200w.
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OldGrowth420

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Cuebossa said:
Blue Dream in ProMix @ 1.2EC, this one should be a good reference as Blue Dream is very well known and distributed. I flushed today for the first time in this particular plants life cycle.
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I feel like im slipping into a daydream just looking at these buds
 
Bakatare666

Bakatare666

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Thanks man!:-P
I'm subbed to this thread now, so I'll keep ya posted.
I THINK, not sure, but THINK, she has grown since I turned lights on 6 hrs ago.
With my reg. nutes, I don't usually notice growth except from lights off to lights on, but I just went and peeked like I always do every couple hrs. while lights on, and I tied another branch because it was getting close to a bulb.
Last night when I few/ watered, I gave 1/2 tsp veg & bloom, along with a pinch of MOAB, so I know I was kinda strong compared to the 12-34-30 I normally give with molasses every third or fourth water.
 
Uncle Pirate

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I did a run of my Blueberry Headband with this. It stayed nice and green until the end, but the buds weren't as big or dense as they are with flora nova. The taste is so close, I'd say it's the same. Bud density and yield definitely went down though. V+B cost me more too. That's my experience.
 
Bakatare666

Bakatare666

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Uncle Pirate said:
I did a run of my Blueberry Headband with this. It stayed nice and green until the end, but the buds weren't as big or dense as they are with flora nova. The taste is so close, I'd say it's the same. Bud density and yield definitely went down though. V+B cost me more too. That's my experience.
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You can go to the V7B website, and request a sample, I just got the one I requested, they'll send you a small tub in about 3 days.
 
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