vac seal in jar

Jjgrow420

Jjgrow420

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chuckeye said:
There is minimal air in the first bag and the point is to prevent crushing/compacting the buds..

Cheers.
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Seems redundant to me.
The point is to take away the air so oxidization doesn't occur or occurs at a much slower rate.
What's the point of vacc-ing the second bag?
I'm still not understanding the logic behind this.
 
chuckeye

chuckeye

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Jjgrow420 said:
Seems redundant to me.
The point is to take away the air so oxidization doesn't occur or occurs at a much slower rate.
What's the point of vacc-ing the second bag?
I'm still not understanding the logic behind this.
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The point is long term storage with as little degradation as possible.

Cheers.
 
Jjgrow420

Jjgrow420

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chuckeye said:
The point is long term storage with as little degradation as possible.

Cheers.
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Lol. Ok. Well we can agree to disagree then.
Imo you might as well just leave it in a bag with the way you're doing it and skip the pointless 2nd bag. But to each their own I suppose.
You're still not explaining what the second bag is accomplishing. Is it stopping more air from getting into the sealed bag with air already in it? Im just not getting the logic behind it
 
chuckeye

chuckeye

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Jjgrow420 said:
Lol. Ok. Well we can agree to disagree then.
Imo you might as well just leave it in a bag with the way you're doing it and skip the pointless 2nd bag. But to each their own I suppose.
You're still not explaining what the second bag is accomplishing. Is it stopping more air from getting into the sealed bag with air already in it? Im just not getting the logic behind it
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The second bag is sealing it completely. Even a freezer bag is going to leak a little and it doesn't take much to puncture it.

And the air that is left in the first bag is much less that what is in a mason jar. I suck out as much as I can (with my mouth) ;)

I don't mean to rain on your parade but your method does not remove the air from the mason jar. The food saver lids do...

When you place your mason jar in your chamber and start to evacuated the air, the increase in pressure will press down on the lid and not allow the majority of the air in the jar to escape. A hot water bath would be more effective...

Cheers.
 
Jjgrow420

Jjgrow420

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chuckeye said:
The second bag is sealing it completely. Even a freezer bag is going to leak a little and it doesn't take much to puncture it.

And the air that is left in the first bag is much less that what is in a mason jar. I suck out as much as I can (with my mouth) ;)

I don't mean to rain on your parade but your method does not remove the air from the mason jar. The food saver lids do...

When you place your mason jar in your chamber and start to evacuated the air, the increase in pressure will press down on the lid and not allow the majority of the air in the jar to escape. A hot water bath would be more effective...

Cheers.
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Dude you aren't very smart are you. Do you understand how a 2 stage vacuum pump operates?
Do you know what -29.9hg is? Its total vacuum. It means there is little to no air left inside the jar.
When you open your bag does it pop and suck air inside it? No. When I open the jar air rushes inside because there is no air inside because I vacuumed it all out.
When you use a vacuum you remove air therefore you are decreasing air pressure. The vacuum makes the lid stay up and when you drop the vac the lit sits down and seals. I watch it happen in the chamber. The lid is sealed so tight it literally sucks down and becomes concave. It's hard to crack the seal. So how is there air left inside my jar?
Dude educate yourself a little before you make yourself look silly again
Lulz cheers
 
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On the Fence

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I was wondering if you keep the 62% humidity packs in a vacuum sealed jar for long term storage? I left the temp and RH gauges in too. Put top on and then suc lid tool on and suc. THen screw the ring on. I don't know why you would need two of these suck lids as you take them off after removing air.
I don't have a clue.
The buds have been in larger jars for about 2 weeks and have stabilized on the RH. I'm thinking after they have stabilized the RH shouldn't change again much in the vacuum jar, so the RH pack may not be needed anymore? I'll take one out and see, leave gauges in.

I don't know how much vacuum these can do even on the extra vac setting. It is just a vinyl hose and not reinforced. The lids are on tight.
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Jjgrow420

Jjgrow420

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On the Fence said:
I was wondering if you keep the 62% humidity packs in a vacuum sealed jar for long term storage? I left the temp and RH gauges in too. Put top on and then suc lid tool on and suc. THen screw the ring on. I don't know why you would need two of these suck lids as you take them off after removing air.
I don't have a clue.
The buds have been in larger jars for about 2 weeks and have stabilized on the RH. I'm thinking after they have stabilized the RH shouldn't change again much in the vacuum jar, so the RH pack may not be needed anymore? I'll take one out and see, leave gauges in.

I don't know how much vacuum these can do even on the extra vac setting. It is just a vinyl hose and not reinforced. The lids are on tight.
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I try to not use the boveda packs unless I over dried a little bit. Which usually doesn't happen but sometimes life gets in the way and buds hang an extra day or two. Got it pretty dialed in. I dont use meters in the jar. I can tell if it's good or not by pressing inbetween my fingers and bending the stem in the bud. I find it's the perfect time when the smaller branches snap but the main large colas still have a tiny bit of moisture left in the stem. Once it's all jarred it evens itself out over a few days under vac
 
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