usefull grow and inside info on the BLACK WIDOW str
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1 - Make sure you don't give it to much plant food or to little because they can die.
2 - Take a cutting off of her as soon as you can because if you clone her and the mom dies you still have the clone(s)
3 - If you want regular seeds from it take clones of your BW and find some good regular WW seeds find a good male out of them and pollinate the BW clone with the male WW to make F1s. Dry the seeds right and put most of them away but make sure to label the male WW that you used so that you can find out what one made the best seeds. Back cross the male of the F1 with the BW to stabilize it but also lock in the BW genetics. The more back crosses you do with the BW mom then the higher % her DNA will be in the regular seeds the more her DNA will show in those seeds. This method is very useful if you can only get feminized seeds of a strain but make it so that you have regular seeds of it.
4 - If the fem seed(s) hermi just let them produce seeds because there is always a chance you will end up with some fem seeds that aren't hermi. If not you can get into the art of making a clone hermi to produce seeds. Dry them and store them away. Do a few batches or more of your fem BW and you'll be safer to.
To the point. The methods I have told you is how you can try to preserve fem strains that you bought so that even if you lost the plant(s) of it you will still have seeds of it to grow out. IMO I would do method 4 to make a batch of seeds from your BW clones and make sure you do enough so that you don't have to flower seeds and find out that there aren't any pure fems to help protect your hard earned investment.
2 - Take a cutting off of her as soon as you can because if you clone her and the mom dies you still have the clone(s)
3 - If you want regular seeds from it take clones of your BW and find some good regular WW seeds find a good male out of them and pollinate the BW clone with the male WW to make F1s. Dry the seeds right and put most of them away but make sure to label the male WW that you used so that you can find out what one made the best seeds. Back cross the male of the F1 with the BW to stabilize it but also lock in the BW genetics. The more back crosses you do with the BW mom then the higher % her DNA will be in the regular seeds the more her DNA will show in those seeds. This method is very useful if you can only get feminized seeds of a strain but make it so that you have regular seeds of it.
4 - If the fem seed(s) hermi just let them produce seeds because there is always a chance you will end up with some fem seeds that aren't hermi. If not you can get into the art of making a clone hermi to produce seeds. Dry them and store them away. Do a few batches or more of your fem BW and you'll be safer to.
To the point. The methods I have told you is how you can try to preserve fem strains that you bought so that even if you lost the plant(s) of it you will still have seeds of it to grow out. IMO I would do method 4 to make a batch of seeds from your BW clones and make sure you do enough so that you don't have to flower seeds and find out that there aren't any pure fems to help protect your hard earned investment.
Unnk
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okay sir... its not a high horse... its called practical breeding....
learn something about genetics sir
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F1_hybrid
"While an F2 hybrid, the result of self or cross pollination of an F1, does not have the consistency of the F1 hybrid, it may retain some desirable traits and can be produced more cheaply as no intervention in the pollination is required. Some seed companies offer F2 seed, particularly in bedding plants where consistency is not as critical."
edit ps. The reason the original is important when it comes to things like this is because the original is made by SHANTIBABA. Anything made from his seeds will be good dont get me wrong but no where near as consistent as the f1. Your guy could be taking a crap cutting from nirvana and just pollinating what ever he wants into it and call it black widow. lol thats the whole reason shanti renamed all the white crosses when he went to mr nice so ppl would know what beans were really his
original white widow = Black widow
original white rhino = Medicine Man
original great white shark = Shark Shock
edit pss
Shark shock (gws) is my personal fav of the white strains
0calli
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thnx for all the advice but 1 step ahead im cloning and i got mother plants so far of my white widow ak-48 and african free just waiting for my white rhino and black widow to get bigger also im trying out grafting with good sucess my goal is to have 2 mother plants with 5-6 differnt strains being supported by the plant
0calli
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thnx great info unnk im always willing to learn
Brick Top
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I purchase through Attitude, which can be trusted. As for the breeder, Scott Blakey, AKA Shantibaba, there is not a more trusted more skilled more successful more respected breeder in the business.
Brick Top
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Why buy a knockoff that is genetically different from the original and then say you bought 'White Widow,' or whatever, when in reality you didn't and you only bought a fake that uses the name of a famous strain?
There are thousands of strains to pick from, thousands, so why pick a fugazi that only sells because it uses the name of a famous strain? Why not instead pick one of the THOUSANDS of other strains that are available? Because in reality the person wants the original but due to cost or some other reason they pick the fugazi and hope that it will at least be somewhat close to being like the original.
FriendlyTokez
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The original white rhino is Medicine Man, this guy is a genius. Medicine Man is a knock you down, fix what ails you kind of stone.
Not for small spaces, and it takes really well to light LST.
For the white widow, Soma Seeds White Light is something to try. It's an energizing smoke.
Not for small spaces, and it takes really well to light LST.
For the white widow, Soma Seeds White Light is something to try. It's an energizing smoke.
Toolage 87
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Looks good. Also after having my AeroGarden I have learned that if you want to find plants of a strain that you have can root fast that's where it comes in hand because you can see what roots faster and what doesn't.
Buddernugs
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I grew a bunch ilgm black widow fem 3x3 full scrog with 16” tops only yielded 3 zips wtf!!!
Razor5000
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I just grew several regular, not feminized, as nor offered yest, feom Nirvana. My first test two days ago was this.....after 8 yrs, I now know what strain of plant I will be growing from nowon.!!!! Nirvana has their shit together, very discreet shipping and covers any bank transaction, and are great to work with....But black widow is a spaced out, relaxing...almost like a xanax high.!!!! Easy to grow and covered in trikes...I did not see anything nute sensitive about it.!!!
Also it was glittering in trikes
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conor c
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There widows a f2 there black widow is different nirvanas is misty a ww hybrid crossed back to the widow its not the same as mr nices ime black widow(mrnices) now is nothing like old one
Razor5000
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U may be correct, but I could've swore I read they had help from Mr Nice...it was an actual thanks to them in the strain post....I grew acp this past season and turned out grt.!!!
Razor5000
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Or on their site describing it. This has turned out to be one of the best head highs....feels like ur brain has taken a xanax.!!!! Good stuff....
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conor c
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U like that id reccomend there chrystal strain some places still have it in stock its white widow x nl backcrossed to the nl that is some nice weed pretty potent too its got the classic ww touch with a fuely backing in the taste and smell it was one of my faves from nirvana i liked ak48 ww and Aurora indica as well
Bucky024
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Black widow is the true white widow he took white widow he strain he made n named it black widow n yea that's what I have read when it comes to black widow that it is the true white widow ... But its Mr.nice seeds or some other site .I jus ordered black widow fem an can't wait to see how she grows n does.... But then again what I read could b wrong . but they say the guy took his white widow went else where n named it black widow ... So if u get the right black widow u got he true white widow..but goodluck to ya hope your grows are growing nice
Bucky024
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Do any of y'all kno of any other seed sites that good besides cropkings n ilgm???
Bodyne
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Agree with you on most mentioned. Misty smelled like your socks but tasted like you had kissed some sugarcane. Chrystal kinda metallicwidow and the aurora I liked also. Earlier days, but good memories