growingforfun

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Oh yeah of course all of a sudden you know the issue. A freaking genius was born, hallelujah! So why are you bragging about it then, shove that info deep somewhere! I never said I was know it all, that’s why I’m here seeking advice ... am I smart? Yes I am! Are you dumb? Why even bringing up someone’s intelligence , why don’t you show what you got!? Why don’t you show how your plants look like you worlds smartest grower? Actions speak louder than words, I can guarantee you 1000% that your plants look garbage next to mine !
ive been a member here for over 10 years, nothin to prove to you lol
 

spek9

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I don’t grow on chemicals ! My plants are the healthiest ones around
No, actually they're not. The leaves are starting to die from nutrient deficiency of some sort. Your pics are awful. Even the second batch look purple. Although I can't decipher what the exact problem is from the pictures, I can say with 100% certainty that those plants are having issues.

Your attempt at bragging about the healthiest plants around is childish and an embarrassment.
 

Tythefic

Member
I'd like to correct you here, just so you're better informed. Being informed allows you to more effectively research when you do have issues.

Deficiencies that start at the bottom of the plant are caused by a deficiency in a mobile nutrient. That means that when the plant can't uptake anymore, it reallocates the stored nutrients in the oldest leaves to where it is needed most... the new growth.

Deficiencies that appear primarily at the top of the plant or anywhere random are immobile nutrient deficiencies. Immobile nutrients can not be moved around, so the deficiency shows at or very near where the actual problem is occurring.

Now, there are five mobile nutrients: Nitrogen (N), Magnesium (Mg), Potassium (K), Phosphorus (P) and Zinc (Zc). The other 11 essential nutrients, are all immobile.

So five deficiencies which may begin at the bottom of the plant and work upwards, and the rest (11) typically either start at new growth, or at random spots on the plant. It's important too to note that some nutrients, although classified as immobile, can travel some within the plant. Not only that, but some mobile deficiencies don't reliably start at the bottom of the plant always either.

Realistically, from my experience, Nitrogen is the only deficiency that reliably and repeatedly starts at the bottom. All of the others can and do show up in varying locations, immobile or not.
Do you know the best way to give them these 11 immobile nutrients naturally ? I don’t wanna use any chemicals , just wanna take care of it the natural way. I’ve been Foliar spraying with mineral water hoping they will absorb necessary elements but didn’t help for the discoloration. And thanks a lot for your post, finally some real knowledge and information among the garbage people keep posting despite so many pleas not to
 

Wattzzup

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All these garbage people help people on this site everyday. Most people don’t come in yelling on their first post though.
 

Tythefic

Member
No, actually they're not. The leaves are starting to die from nutrient deficiency of some sort. Your pics are awful. Even the second batch look purple. Although I can't decipher what the exact problem is from the pictures, I can say with 100% certainty that those plants are having issues.

Your attempt at bragging about the healthiest plants around is childish and an embarrassment.
Oh my goodness seriously ? You’re just like that 30 year old experienced grower looking for all kinds of excuses. Just say you don’t know! Light is not going to help you gain knowledge all of a sudden! Yes I didn’t turn the second light off , so you’re getting a little pink hue which affects ZERO the quality of the pics of defining the problem . It’s clearly if not even clearer visible!
 

Wattzzup

Well-Known Member
Oh my goodness seriously ? You’re just like that 30 year old experienced grower looking for all kinds of excuses. Just say you don’t know! Light is not going to help you gain knowledge all of a sudden! Yes I didn’t turn the second light off , so you’re getting a little pink hue which affects ZERO the quality of the pics of defining the problem . It’s clearly if not even clearer visible!
I’m sure people are lining up to help you. Hold on here’s one now.

@spek9 just gives you info and the next post u go off on him. Too funny man

I can’t believe you need a clear pic in regular light to see what’s wrong with his plant. You suck @spek9 his friends can tell him without even having to see it
 

growingforfun

Well-Known Member
your problem is too much nitrogen. as has already been stated. this took you 3 pages to get to due to your attitude. give it plain water for a week and cut your nutrient load in half after. good luck have fun
 

mpaull

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First off, you can see results in 3 days, and I mean any results! Wether you trying to find out if particular nutrient works etc. while you may sit there months hoping to notice differences, I see them the next day! Maybe that’s where my experience comes in! I know if plants wants this or that within 2-3 days. And even now I can be all Einstein about it and feed every nutrient and I’m sure I’ll pick the right now, but that’s exactly what I’m trying to avoid so build up toxicity in my soil. My soil is super clean and fed with perfect 6.5 ph water, so I don’t wanna ruin one by feeding some experimental nutrient. I either know exactly what to feed or I feed nothing.
Treefarmercharlie is a VERY Experienced, Knowledgeable and HELPFUL member here. Extremely well thought of. Maybe YOU need to reign in your attitude and FAKE knowledge. If you want help, be humble, not an arrogant, know-it-all. Apologize, throw yourself at the feet of the court AND then... TRY AGAIN... humbly. There are MANY experienced growers here willing to help...
 

spek9

Well-Known Member
Do you know the best way to give them these 11 immobile nutrients naturally ? I don’t wanna use any chemicals , just wanna take care of it the natural way. I’ve been Foliar spraying with mineral water hoping they will absorb necessary elements but didn’t help for the discoloration. And thanks a lot for your post, finally some real knowledge and information among the garbage people keep posting despite so many pleas not to
No idea. I choose to use chelated synthetic water soluble nutrients for my indoor plants, which I definitely know how to increase or decrease individual nutrients.

Perhaps if you had elaborated on your growing techniques and desires up front instead of being condescending and stating what you didn't want to hear, people would have been understanding and would have been able to provide better assistance. As it is now, you just joined the site today, came off as a complete know-it-all while telling us what you don't want to hear. That doesn't go over well on this site. At all.

If you want decent help, provide your entire situation up front, stop with the condescending nonsense, be polite, and for the love of all things good, be honest!

Acting like an expert when we know you're not leaves a bad taste in people's mouths.
 

Tythefic

Member
One month in veg, grown organically in 10 gal pots, and looks a hell of a lot healthier than yours.
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Lmao and this guy is screaming the loudest?!?!? This guy you guys listen to and take advice from? Oh boy I hope not every grower here is such a incompetent bully. There is first sign why one should never listen to you because you know zero about growing cannabis and that is never grow in plastic pots! So i cannot and will not take you serious when you’re suffocating your plants in these pots - not to mention your plants outgrew your pot long ago! I feel sorry for these poor plants that are doing best to survive and not thrive. Anyone would really disagree with what I said!!?! You shouldn’t call yourself a grower at least not cannabis.
 

TreeFarmerCharlie

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I’m sure people are lining up to help you. Hold on here’s one now.

@spek9 just gives you info and the next post u go off on him. Too funny man

I can’t believe you need a clear pic in regular light to see what’s wrong with his plant. You suck @spek9 his friends can tell him without even having to see it
How much you wanna bet when this guy goes to a restaurant he sends his meal back to the cook at least once, every visit, and tells the cook it wasn’t done right?
 

Wattzzup

Well-Known Member
Lmao and this guy is screaming the loudest?!?!? This guy you guys listen to and take advice from? Oh boy I hope not every grower here is such a incompetent bully. There is first sign why one should never listen to you because you know zero about growing cannabis and that is never grow in plastic pots! So i cannot and will not take you serious when you’re suffocating your plants in these pots - not to mention your plants outgrew your pot long ago! I feel sorry for these poor plants that are doing best to survive and not thrive. Anyone would really disagree with what I said!!?! You shouldn’t call yourself a grower at least not cannabis.
If your plant is that dark green and purple you shouldn’t call yourself a grower. This is clearly your first grow.
 

growingforfun

Well-Known Member
Lmao and this guy is screaming the loudest?!?!? This guy you guys listen to and take advice from? Oh boy I hope not every grower here is such a incompetent bully. There is first sign why one should never listen to you because you know zero about growing cannabis and that is never grow in plastic pots! So i cannot and will not take you serious when you’re suffocating your plants in these pots - not to mention your plants outgrew your pot long ago! I feel sorry for these poor plants that are doing best to survive and not thrive. Anyone would really disagree with what I said!!?! You shouldn’t call yourself a grower at least not cannabis.
and this everyone.. is where the quote "when a fool criticizes you, take it as a compliment" comes from
 

Tythefic

Member
Treefarmercharlie is a VERY Experienced, Knowledgeable and HELPFUL member here. Extremely well thought of. Maybe YOU need to reign in your attitude and FAKE knowledge. If you want help, be humble, not an arrogant, know-it-all. Apologize, throw yourself at the feet of the court AND then... TRY AGAIN... humbly. There are MANY experienced growers here willing to help...
Why don’t you fuck off my post? I didn’t invite you nor I’m interested in your poor knowledge, all you do is bitch and bitch. I am nice to those that are nice to me, and you can see such replies to courteous knowledgeable posts. Asking me to get on my knees for your so called knowledge is absurd, sick and just obnoxious. So kindly fuck off
 

growingforfun

Well-Known Member
wait... guys.... is he doing a Trump bit? he got us guys. this was really well played out. he totally got us into thinking he was serious
 

TreeFarmerCharlie

Well-Known Member
Lmao and this guy is screaming the loudest?!?!? This guy you guys listen to and take advice from? Oh boy I hope not every grower here is such a incompetent bully. There is first sign why one should never listen to you because you know zero about growing cannabis and that is never grow in plastic pots! So i cannot and will not take you serious when you’re suffocating your plants in these pots - not to mention your plants outgrew your pot long ago! I feel sorry for these poor plants that are doing best to survive and not thrive. Anyone would really disagree with what I said!!?! You shouldn’t call yourself a grower at least not cannabis.
Those are fabric pots...But plastic pots are fine, even though I prefer fabric. You are outing yourself as a complete noob who knows nothing.
 

spek9

Well-Known Member
Oh my goodness seriously ? You’re just like that 30 year old experienced grower looking for all kinds of excuses. Just say you don’t know! Light is not going to help you gain knowledge all of a sudden! Yes I didn’t turn the second light off , so you’re getting a little pink hue which affects ZERO the quality of the pics of defining the problem . It’s clearly if not even clearer visible!
No, I am not 30, but I do have going on 30 years of growing experience, including eight years of indoor.

I'm also colour blind, so any colour distortion whatsoever in a photograph messes up my ability to hone in on what colours are actually being displayed. I literally have to "imagine" what some colours are when I look at them.

That "little pink hue" may as well be black spray paint to me.
 
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