understanding the law as a grower...

starbuds

New Member
It looks like everyone got caught up on talking about signing contracts, and strayed far away from what the original post was about. Lets get back on topic.

I also thought that dispensaries had to grow 70% of their own product, but after some internet research, I cant find anything that specifies that Oregon has to follow that rule. That raises an eyebrow. There are so many different strains, and people want selection. I dont see dispensaries being able to grow several different strains on their own, so one might think that they must compensate caregivers on overages to bring into there dispensary.

Btw I am also new to this, and I have the very same questions that the original poster has.
 

Southerner

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Never heard of the 70% thing in Oregon and have been reimbursed plenty of extras to various local dispensaries. Speaking with managers and owners, I know of numerous places that do no in-store growing whatsoever and depend wholly on outside farmers so it must be a Colorado thing.
 

hillbillyherbs

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On March 3rd HB3460 takes affect at that point dispensaries will not be able to have an on site grow or have cannabis consumed on the property.
Cannabis and cannabis products will be purchased from growers with a signed release from their patient giving the permission to sell it.
The final temporary rules have been posted on the health authorities web site:
http://www.oregon.gov/oha/docs/333-008-FINAL-MMJ-DISPENSARY-RULES.pdf

Kind of suck all those places with smoking lounges and dab bars will have to close them down.
 

Southerner

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Wow yeah that does suck, I'm not much of a "social club goer" but I do know a lot of patients who love that kinda stuff. There was a council of local dispensary owners who helped the state come up with these new laws, it seems like many of them are attempts to prevent new dispensaries from being able to open as easily. Its kinda funny because the same council is currently helping to write the legislation for eventual legalization, I wonder who will end up benefiting when that system passes and is put in place?
 

starbuds

New Member
On March 3rd HB3460 takes affect at that point dispensaries will not be able to have an on site grow or have cannabis consumed on the property.
Cannabis and cannabis products will be purchased from growers with a signed release from their patient giving the permission to sell it.
The final temporary rules have been posted on the health authorities web site:
http://www.oregon.gov/oha/docs/333-008-FINAL-MMJ-DISPENSARY-RULES.pdf

Kind of suck all those places with smoking lounges and dab bars will have to close them down.
Thanks Hillbilly for clarifying that. This is all starting to make sense. I have a friend whom is opening a dispensary in march. He has told me that I need a contract for all my patients, his lawer drew the whole thing up for him. I think that, that law is great because it will make it so the dispensaries can inly buy from us local caregivers. Its geat for the overall oregon economy.
 

hillbillyherbs

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Well anybody that has a testing lab is going to make millions. Every thing has to be lab tested for pesticides, mold, thc, and cbd's. And if you look at the rules concerning plants a dispensary will have to have some one with at least a bachelor degree in botany or a similar field to certify they are free from bugs and pesticides or no clones and plants on hand.
 

starbuds

New Member
So that means we will have to ship out portions of our batches to medical marijuana test facilities to check for quality? Or does the law say that the dispensaries have to?
 

420CannabisMMJPothead

Active Member
*whew*
I was afraid the dirty pieces of shit who like to bleed money out of anything would have no in-roads to the mmj business. Now at least we can have people and businesses involved that care nothing about cannabis except for the money it can make them.
Pot, plastics, grains? Who cares as long as I get to marginalize the people who really benefit or need the commodity.
 

starbuds

New Member
I think that having to test for quality, THC, and CBD of the marijuana will be extremely beneficial to patients. This will weed caregivers that produce bad or harmful marijuana. People like me are excited to test and see what fine product they produce and have nothing to worry about. I also believe that someone whom spends the time and personal resources to produce a fine product should have some sort of compensation.
 

Southerner

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I don't have a problem getting my stuff tested and think its a great win for the patients/consumers, but it will definitely stop me from growing any sort of variety as I believe the tests are around 80$/ea. There are at least 85 cannabinoids that can be isolated for marijuana, so these tests are by no stretch going to tell the entire story ether. I think the tests for pesticides and molds is the most important part, who knows what crazy shit some people are using or growing in. Once the testing is in place, I wouldn't be surprised to see a slight increase in reimbursement rates for dispensaries.
 

kinddiesel

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first it is not legal to profit off growing weed. so you always tell the patient they need to donate money towards your garden. second you cant pay taxes for growing weed . its not legal to profit . so what big time growers do . they just get a business license and say they own a business any kind you can run out of your home, example . baby sitting . and put the min amount of money into the bank as possible to pay the bills. its not legal to sell weed ever. so its suggested donation amount . most people that grow weed work as well there are not a lot of people that know how to grow and live off the profits so they never need to go to the process to open a business.. if they dump 3 or 5 grand into the bank every 2 months they can say they sold some thing on craigs list or painted some ones house so on . most people smoke here profit or blow all there cash before it ever gets saved up.
 

hillbillyherbs

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So that means we will have to ship out portions of our batches to medical marijuana test facilities to check for quality? Or does the law say that the dispensaries have to?
All the laws says is the stuff has to be certified mold and pesticide free and it has to be a place with certified equipment and not every dispensary could ever afford that. So its up to places like greenleaf labs in Portland and other places to do it that I am sure will be popping up.. Now there is another question on who pays for it, that is between dispensaries and growers to decide I guess.
 

hillbillyherbs

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first it is not legal to profit off growing weed. so you always tell the patient they need to donate money towards your garden. second you cant pay taxes for growing weed . its not legal to profit . so what big time growers do . they just get a business license and say they own a business any kind you can run out of your home, example . baby sitting . and put the min amount of money into the bank as possible to pay the bills. its not legal to sell weed ever. so its suggested donation amount . most people that grow weed work as well there are not a lot of people that know how to grow and live off the profits so they never need to go to the process to open a business.. if they dump 3 or 5 grand into the bank every 2 months they can say they sold some thing on craigs list or painted some ones house so on . most people smoke here profit or blow all there cash before it ever gets saved up.

What a confusing rant.
 

hillbillyherbs

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the clubs will have their own testing equipment, Im told. THC test kits have been the rage lately at the expos, diff shapes and sizes, Also seeing smoking lounges opening down south, someone mentioned they would be closing, it appears not.

http://www.thctestkits.com/index.html#home
Its not only thc and cbd's they are testing for they need to also test for mold and pesticides and the testing equipment for that is not cheep or easy to use.
 

Beacon

Active Member
Clubs down south already doin it, and all they have to say is yes or no for the mold and pesticides. Boy, let a grower get caught pushing dirty herb, lol, be a black eye for life, lol! Also, the way the disp law reads, this first year, they won't be doing any physical inspects, right? They only gonna make you have all paperwork and fees paid and basically give you a year to grandfather yourself in or become compliant, seems the way it read to me?! Also, that link I provided, those tests are for other chemicals, aka pesticides. Those tests were used at the SO Culivators Cup last year, and at some High Times events, I'd say the world of test kits are expanding, lol. The labs don't want you to know that, though, hehe!
 

Beacon

Active Member
Southern club, 100 a pop for thc cbd/n test and they use UV and scope for mold, etc. Most clubs will do it in house, it appears so far
 

Southerner

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So the mold test is just some employee with a microscope who already will work at the club? I guess I thought it'd be more technical than that and rely on a "neutral" third-party.
 
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