U.S. right wing extremists more deadly than jihadists

desert dude said:
Look at the statistics about violent crime committed in the US with guns. If you simply stay out of the large Democratic strongholds, you are safer in the US than Europe, and the beer is better too.
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Personally, I don't think the fact they are democratic strongholds has much to do with it desert dude. course i could be wrong. seems to me that the drug trade, and vicious competition over it, is the real culprit. Perhaps every user of cocaine/heroin/meth that the cartels supply plays a role. imho, the 'demand' side is ignored and the people at the bottom of the supply chain (ie street level) are conspicuous only if of colour. Seems a tad myopic when police resources are overused to incarcerate people of colour; especially after Wall Street just finished 'raping' America and is currently planning it's next 'gang-bang'. I, for one, will not get caught with my pants down around my ankles again. Wish the same for all.

Happy holidays to everyone!
 
killemsoftly said:
Personally, I don't think the fact they are democratic strongholds has much to do with it desert dude. course i could be wrong. seems to me that the drug trade, and vicious competition over it, is the real culprit. Perhaps every user of cocaine/heroin/meth that the cartels supply plays a role. imho, the 'demand' side is ignored and the people at the bottom of the supply chain (ie street level) are conspicuous only if of colour. Seems a tad myopic when police resources are overused to incarcerate people of colour; especially after Wall Street just finished 'raping' America and is currently planning it's next 'gang-bang'. I, for one, will not get caught with my pants down around my ankles again. Wish the same for all.

Happy holidays to everyone!
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You're right. I just threw in the "Democratic strongholds" thing as a poke in the eye of the locals progs. The loving Democrats certainly seem to be milking the suffering for all it's worth though.

It is a constantly repeated myth that America is some sort of battle zone engaged in a perpetual fire fight and all because of "America's insane love affair with guns". That is total hokum. The simple fact is the US is mostly safer than the EU, in every way, with a few war zones in the inner cities responsible for almost all of the violent crime; they all happen to be Democratic strongholds as well.

America is not very popular now days, so it is quite chic to highlight our every ill. Our real problem is over regulation, and over legislation, and too much power for politicians which inevitably winds up for sale to the highest bidder.
 
desert dude said:
You're right. I just threw in the Democratic strongholds as a poke in the eye of the locals progs. The loving Democrats certainly seem to be milking the suffering for all it's worth though.

It is a constantly repeated myth that America is some sort of battle zone engaged in a perpetual fire fight and all because of "America's insane love affair with guns". That it total hokum. The simple fact is the US is mostly safer than the EU, in every way, with a few war zones in the inner cities responsible for almost all of the violent crime; they all happen to be Democratic strongholds as well.

America is not very popular now days, so it quite chic to highlight every ill. Our real problem is the over regulation, and over legislation, and too much power for politicians which inevitably winds up for sale to the highest bidder.
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We agree on a great deal desert dude. I understand the dig; i find some democrats (but more republicans) offensive.

I agree about the specificity of gun crime. I've traveled extensively in the U.S. and have seen it first hand. Gun control will not work as there are already so many it would be impossible and impractical: besides, they'd just be smuggled in or made by home-hobbyists. I do know I've never carried a gun up here but did in Arizona (open carry-in full compliance with the law; i follow a simple rule-never fuck with the U.S. GOVT!!) I do believe that sane gun owners are not a problem and that a citizen-militia is a very good reality check for all the bums in washington/state legislatures. Absolutely, the feds and there multitude of agencies have way too much power. I do believe that the abuse of power is firmly entrenched amongst LEO and is a travesty. Having said that i have met some of the nicest law enforcement officers i have ever met in the U.S.; all put my former hometown police (toronto-fascist scum but not all-say 90%) to shame.

True story: pulled over in Pima county outside tucson. Having watched too many episodes of 'Cops' on tv, i turned off the engine and dropped the keys on the ground. Cop came up to the car, looked at the ground, looked at me funny and said:'Why'd ya do that?". I replied: "so you would know i'm not a flight risk." He bent over, picked them up, handed them back to me and said:'your left turn signal bulb is out. Get it replaced." Wow. Hella nice guy and had a sense of humour and decency to boot. Never even cited me let alone asked for a licence or insurance.

I'm full of stories. Some true most not. LOL. Please indulge me on occasion dd. I'm old and my mind wanders.
 
Hookabelly said:
I opened this thread w/ the intent to learn from both sides…. I don't even know where the lines are anymore.
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Are there only two sides to this?
At the very least, one needs to expect a two-dimensional plane of possibilities. After all, the subject matter itself leans to neither economic or social preference; it is an open field. In fact, I wonder if the Polychromatic Number of the Plane may apply? Or van der Waerden's theorem?
 
Begs the question.. Why did we waste billions of dollars and thousands of American lives on a decade long conflict that didn't solve anything while a bigger threat to the American public is right outside the back door? How often is right wing terrorism mentioned in the media? How often does Fox News cover it? How often does the president address it?

The fact is Jethro down south and his good ol' boys are more dangerous than Muhammad and his 72 virgins, 34 innocent lives proves it
 
Hookabelly said:
I opened this thread w/ the intent to learn from both sides…. I don't even know where the lines are anymore.
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The lines were stolen, by those that can't/won't keep to the subject. They seem to derive great pleasure in distracting, and misleading the discussion to suit their own misguided agendas.

I do believe that the numbers for deaths do to neighborhood radicals are much higher then those listed here. Then again maybe no one is counting.
 
Ra$p0tin said:
The lines were stolen, by those that can't/won't keep to the subject. They seem to derive great pleasure in distracting, and misleading the discussion to suit their own misguided agendas.

I do believe that the numbers for deaths do to neighborhood radicals are much higher then those listed here. Then again maybe no one is counting.
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Love that avi! Why do shitting dogs get such a bad rap? Other dogs just come along and eat it. Hey, dogs are better recyclers than us! My neighbours won't let me eat their poop. Rip-off!
 
heckler73 said:
Are there only two sides to this?
At the very least, one needs to expect a two-dimensional plane of possibilities. After all, the subject matter itself leans to neither economic or social preference; it is an open field. In fact, I wonder if the Polychromatic Number of the Plane may apply? Or van der Waerden's theorem?
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I was just thinking the exact same thing.
 
Ra$p0tin said:
The lines were stolen, by those that can't/won't keep to the subject. They seem to derive great pleasure in distracting, and misleading the discussion to suit their own misguided agendas.
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i agree. things were going smoothly until desertsupremacy started piping in with "gangbangers in chicago" and "abortionists" and "propaganda" in an attempt to spread his racial agenda.
 
heckler73 said:
Are there only two sides to this?
At the very least, one needs to expect a two-dimensional plane of possibilities. After all, the subject matter itself leans to neither economic or social preference; it is an open field. In fact, I wonder if the Polychromatic Number of the Plane may apply? Or van der Waerden's theorem?
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Okay, better stated (well, except for the second part about the Ploychromatic Number of the Plane…Geez)
 
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