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Nullis

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Whatever container you're starting in (plastic cups are good as they are 4"+), it's good to fill it all the way to the very top with soil (so that the roots can utilize all available space).

Also, I disagree with using a spray bottle to water seedlings. Watering seems to be a huge issue for many new growers when it doesn't necessarily have to be. I would argue that using a spray bottle to "water" could be counter-productive. You may get into the habit of just misting the soil surface when it looks like it is getting dry, or just for the hell of it. This could lead to dry spots elsewhere beneath the immediate surface (roots wont grow where it is too dry). Thorough watering with proper wet\dry cycles is important for healthy root growth. Ideally you want to water thoroughly or until you see some run-off, each time you water. How fast it dries out is going to depend on container size, media, temp, relative humidity, lighting, air flow and age of the seedling. As the seedling grows more roots, it will start to call for water more frequently, until ready for transplanting. Wait until the container has lightened up considerably (lifting is a good way to check), and top has dried out (for the most part), just don't wait until it has dried out COMPLETELY. There should always be some level of moisture throughout the soil at all times.

Potting mix that is too dry will seem to repel water at first, and it often comes this way initially (out of the bag). If you wait until the mix gets dry as a bone and starts to shrink away from the edges of the container, that's no good. When you do go to water it will appear to pool up on top, run down the sides, or otherwise piss right thru the container (without actually being absorbed). In these cases it is helpful to mist the soil mix to help moisten it, or to water with a small volume prior to planting in and then water thoroughly.
 

Turkilton

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Whatever container you're starting in (plastic cups are good as they are 4"+), it's good to fill it all the way to the very top with soil (so that the roots can utilize all available space).
Alright Nullis, cheers for that i was noticing that spraying the top wasnt really getting any serious water down to the lower areas of the media so i have being doing this.

spray in morning, get home from work a little spray if need be and then just before bed a tiny bit of water straight from the bottle, the leaves are at a dead 90 degrees to the steam so ive cracked the watering of this little baby and she's loving life.

i have two sets of leaves and from what i know and read im just on course !
 

Turkilton

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UPDATE:
As we all know this is the most boring time yet most exciting, as you'll be able to tell i've got 4 sets of leaves including the baby leaves, everything so far is going to plan and i have got 3 extremely tight nodes.
i've taken a pic from below as when i was transplanting the plant as i noticed under the leaves there was a slight (ever so slight) tinge of purple underneath, this brings me back to trying to find someone who has also grown Ogre as it seems NO ONE HAS!. and i cant find enough information of traits around this plant.

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If anyone can see i've missed anything or am doing something extremely wrong do let me know as im pretty sure im on track and ready for the madness that shall come into play next week - found someone who grew Ogre Auto, with HPS mind, but they had a reported new node a day so im guessing with CFL's on cool whites ill be looking at a new node every day and half)

Peace Out And Happy Growing !
Turkilton
 

Steelheader3430

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Yeah Turk I wasn't really journaling my grow, I was totally new to the forum and growing so it is what it is. Your little seedling looks nice, those are some tight nodes. Whatever your doing keep at it.
 

Turkilton

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Yeah Turk I wasn't really journaling my grow, I was totally new to the forum and growing so it is what it is. Your little seedling looks nice, those are some tight nodes. Whatever your doing keep at it.

aha totally get ya now well i'll be watching any pics you put up and am very keen to see how your grow comes a long !

cheers man! i was a little worried that im a little behind track and that the plant was a little under sized. also has anybody heard of the warm white cfls causing hermies. ive just heard it on youtube and dont know whether to take it seriously, im still running only cool whites and am buying 2 more this week (or next depending on money) with a 4 way splitter.
 

Steelheader3430

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I havn't heard of the warm whites causing hermies but I have heard of more people using cools so sounds like a good plan.
 

Turkilton

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yeah cant remember where i heard it but i heard it, the cool white thing seems to be a goer. then onto the warms once flowering starts (in 3 weeks).
 

tekdc911

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ive never grown out a ogre

but ive seen a few grows and crosses of them on another "autoflower" forum there monsters
youre going to need so many more watts >.< ill check it out as it goes
i might end up getting a couple of these
im going with " stone dragon" from a breeder on RCMC next round it grows similar to the ogre from the pics
 

Turkilton

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I'm ordering another two 30W'ers tomorrow with a 4 way splitter so that brings me up to - 30W X 4 (6400K X 4) and one 20W warm white but getting an adaptor for my 35W 6400K bulb to replace the 20W bit of crap.

I know they can be fucking monsters which isn't what I want as the growing space is soo small.

I've just been having a little look at my little Bev (she's named after my late mother who's ashes are also in the soil) and she seems to be a tinge of purple under the leaves?
 

Steelheader3430

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Did your mom like purple? That would be cool. It's really young and might just be still missing the phosphorous in the soil. I wouldn't worry about it just yet. Let it grow some more roots and see what happens.
 

tekdc911

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i like the 68W 2700k ge bulbs they're around $20-25 USD
used them for years before i took the led plunge
then made one harvest under the led's and added a 400w hps
still want more light or just switch to a 600w hadnt figured it out yet
 

Turkilton

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Steel - i've never look at it that way as she was a purple dress wearing hippie and a dark violet was her favourite, i made a home made reflector last night out of wire, sticks and my reflective sheeting i have on the walls as ive just stopped smoking bud and now realised my room was like a fucking disco when the lights where off. since that being made there was a noticeable growth in the time i was asleep (5 hours) as the nodes have a little more space between them now.

Tek - i do want to upgrade to just two 125W 6400K's for veg then 2 X 125W 2700K + 1 X 125W 6400K for the budding. i would love to go to a HPS light but the fact i am growing in what could be called a tinder box i feel safer leaving the house knowing i've only got CFLs running. i've heard a lot about the LED lights and the amount of gram per watt you get from a plant seems mind boggling also ive worked out i could get 1 large panel in my wardrobe (get one with the dimensions of 40x40cm) then ill have 2x125w 64k's and 2x125 27k's as basic house hold lamps point up wards underneath the plants.. well thats the plan anyway but i dont have the £500 it costs over here.

oh yeh Tek the government know why these lights are brought and defiantly know why the LEDs are brought so they are rather pricey over here.
 

Turkilton

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Just ordered my new lights !!! 2x 30W Grow bulb Blue 6400k & 4 in 1 holder Splitter total cost of £25.
 

Turkilton

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i might end up getting a couple of these
im going with " stone dragon" from a breeder on RCMC next round it grows similar to the ogre from the pics
i would get some Ogre if i were you mate its meant to be a monster and its meant to be very tough, resistant to heat damage, mites, over/under watering and meant to have one of the most complex branching system, also it goes into 'hyper veg' from 2 weeks till the 7th i think (oh im 2 weeks tomo :hump::hump::hump:) i've just google stone dragon as never heard of it and please say its thie ( http://www.autoflowerslovenija.com/t629-stone-dragon-by-robwar-on-afn ) if so OMFG i actually just dribbling on my desk at work! please i beg of you to let me know when your growing this as im very very interested in that!!

Turkilton
 
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