trump oddly refusing to implement bipartisan russia sanctions

Fogdog

Fogdog

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Flowki said:
If intelligence is flight, free will is gravity. We will pay now and a lot more later.

I don't sit on any point of any political scale, it's limiting.
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Flowki said:
No offense but it makes no sense because you lack wisdom.

Once again you deflect any wrong doing by yourself and others by propping up examples of trump (the fall guy) doing something worse in order to blanket out your own faults. What you are doing is entry entry level to understand in psychology. Take some fucking responsibility for at-least some actions. As said, protesting against trump on the day of a democratic election is an ABSURD ACTION BY A POPULACE THAT HAS LOST ITS MORAL COMPASS.
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LOL. I have the wisdom to not make silly analogies. "if intelligence is flight" -- why don't we just stop right there. Intelligence is not flight. Also free will is not gravity.

Trump is the fall guy? What are you talking about "entry level to understanding psychology"? What responsibility can I take would change our energy distribution system or the millions of tons of carbon released into the atmosphere each day? Trump is fucking up this society in so many ways and somehow it's my moral compass that is lost?

LOL

You are fucking nuts.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Flowki said:
No offense but it makes no sense because you lack wisdom.

Once again you deflect any wrong doing by yourself and others by propping up examples of trump (the fall guy) doing something worse in order to blanket out your own faults. What you are doing is entry entry level to understand in psychology. Take some fucking responsibility for at-least some actions. As said, protesting against trump on the day of a democratic election is an ABSURD ACTION BY A POPULACE THAT HAS LOST ITS MORAL COMPASS.
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Oh yeah, talk about deflections

Sessions. Jeff Sessions. That's another shitty thing Trump has done. I can and will name others. But try to tell me how Jeff Sessions is somehow my fault. Or perhaps you want to tell me how wonderful he is.

LOL squirm, fool.
 
ANC

ANC

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https://www.theroot.com/what-does-robert-mueller-have-that-would-make-3-defense-1822645468

What Does Robert Mueller Have That Would Make 3 Defense Attorneys Leave Their Client in the Dust?

lawyers aren’t just allowed to drop clients willy nilly. There have to be valid reasons. Typically those reasons are

  • failure to pay (doubtful)
  • asking the lawyer to commit a crime (unlikely)
  • the client refuses to listen to lawyers advice (possible)
  • the lawyer knows you intend to commit perjury (my bet)
 
Heil Tweetler

Heil Tweetler

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Don’t Believe the Liberal F.B.I.


In the 1960s and 1970s, the American right set about undermining trust in the mainstream media, which it saw as dangerously infected with liberal assumptions. Later, in debates over evolution and the environment, some on the right attacked the validity of modern science. By the turn of the millennium, it was an article of faith among conservative ideologues that whole realms of human expertise were in fact intricate structures of propaganda that trapped the unwary in a matrix of deceit.

In an invaluable 2017 Vox essay titled “Donald Trump and the Rise of Tribal Epistemology,” David Roberts quoted a 2009 Rush Limbaugh rant: “Science has been corrupted. We know the media has been corrupted for a long time. Academia has been corrupted. None of what they do is real. It’s all lies!” With Trump, this ethos reached the White House. And now, to protect Trump, the right has expanded its war on empiricism to that most conservative of institutions, the F.B.I.

That’s the best way to understand the farce surrounding the infamous classified memo written by aides to Representative Devin Nunes, the Republican chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, which Trump reportedly believes will help discredit the Russia investigation. The events involved in the creation of this memo, and the multifront political battle over efforts to make it public, are so absurd and convoluted that they’re difficult to summarize, and in some ways that’s the point.

In their attempts to undermine the Russia probe, Republicans aren’t presenting a coherent theory — even a coherent conspiracy theory. They’re just sowing confusion and distrust toward the nation’s premier law enforcement agency in order to protect the president. In December, conservative columnist Kurt Schlichter wrote that, under the influence of the “poisonous” liberal establishment, the once-proud F.B.I. had become “just another suppurating bureaucratic pustule.” That’s exactly how Nunes is treating it.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/02/01/opinion/dont-believe-the-liberal-fbi.html?action=click&contentCollection=opinion&region=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=3&pgtype=sectionfront&referer=https://www.nytimes.com/section/opinion
 
greg nr

greg nr

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ANC said:
https://www.theroot.com/what-does-robert-mueller-have-that-would-make-3-defense-1822645468

What Does Robert Mueller Have That Would Make 3 Defense Attorneys Leave Their Client in the Dust?

lawyers aren’t just allowed to drop clients willy nilly. There have to be valid reasons. Typically those reasons are

  • failure to pay (doubtful)
  • asking the lawyer to commit a crime (unlikely)
  • the client refuses to listen to lawyers advice (possible)
  • the lawyer knows you intend to commit perjury (my bet)
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You missed a few. One of the big ones is the lawyers themselves can't have a conflict of interest.

Now consider this.....

Gates is broke.

We know that because when he was first indicted he asked for and qualified for a public defender. That is public record. You can only get a PD if you can prove you can't afford an attorney.

So where did the 3 x $1000/hr attorneys come from and who paid for them? It wasn't gates. But Mannafort and Trump (team russia) had a good reason to have Gates not panic. He needed to believe he could beat the rap.

But Gates didn't seem to like the fool-aid. He went out and got an attorney known for cutting deals (we don't know who paid for that lawyer either, but it wasn't anyone on team russia). That lawyer was seen at Muehler's offices several times.

Now the three team russia lawyers suddenly quit.

My guess is Gates copped to a deal and those 3 couldn't/wouldn't represent him any longer. Gates can take down Mannafort. They have been together for many years. He knows where significant mannefort bone piles are and can link them to mannafort.

Mannafort will now likely cop a deal himself since he is as good as convicted and he knows it.

Likewise, Mannefort can take down trump. He is deep into the money laundering operation. He owns apartments in trump properties. He has been a partner with trump for years, and he knows where trumps bone piles are and can link him to them.

How does that sound?
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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greg nr said:
There is more than one you know. Physics is a crazy science, but so far, proven correct.
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There are limits to what our current physical theories about the universe can explain. For example, the universe is not only expanding but the rate of expansion is accelerating. Einsteinian physics does predict expansion but doesn't predict an acceleration in expansion. Theoreticians patched Einsteins model by introducing a fudge factor but it's completely empirical. They called it Dark Energy and it came as a complete surprise to theoreticians.
 
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