Fogdog
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lol, yeah, sure. And when I show somebody my middle finger I'm saying they are number one.
TRUMP CONVICTED
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Dorian2
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I disagree with your opinion on this.
BudmanTX
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naw...international good will
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printer
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"But I am just a girl."
Ivanka Trump appeals judge’s order to testify in New York fraud trial
Former President Trump’s daughter, Ivanka Trump, on Wednesday appealed a judge’s order that she must testify in her father’s ongoing fraud trial in New York.
“This appeal is taken from each and every part of the order insofar as it applies to Ms. Trump,” states her succinct notice appealing Judge Arthur Engoron’s Oct. 27 bench ruling and Oct. 30 scheduling order, which requires her to comply with a subpoena.
The appeal is primarily composed of a transcript from the hearing last month in which Ivanka Trump’s attorneys made their case to Engoron — and, where he ultimately sided with the New York attorney general’s office — despite the fact that she is no longer a party in the case.
The lawsuit, filed last year by New York Attorney General Letitia James’s (D) office, accuses the Trump family business of falsely inflating and deflating the value of its assets to receive lower taxes and better insurance coverage.
Ivanka Trump was dismissed from the case involving the former president, the Trump Organization and two of her brothers in June, after a New York appeals court ruled that the claims against her were barred by the state’s statute of limitations.
During last week’s hearing over Ivanka Trump’s protestations and in court filings, her attorney argued that compelling her to testify is outside of James’s jurisdiction and suggested that the attorney general’s office is attempting to “force her back into this case.”
“Ms. Trump is not a party in this action. Nor is Ms. Trump a New York resident,” her lawyers wrote in court filings. “It is black-letter law that, given those two facts, Ms. Trump is beyond the jurisdiction of this Court.”
Engoron disagreed with that assessment, finding that Ivanka Trump has “clearly availed herself of the privilege of doing business in New York.”
Ivanka Trump is asking New York’s appellate division to reconsider her jurisdiction argument in addition to several other arguments, including whether her subpoena was rightly issued.
She is scheduled to take the stand Nov. 8, though the appeal may delay her testimony.
thehill.com
Ivanka Trump appeals judge’s order to testify in New York fraud trial
Former President Trump’s daughter, Ivanka Trump, on Wednesday appealed a judge’s order that she must testify in her father’s ongoing fraud trial in New York.
“This appeal is taken from each and every part of the order insofar as it applies to Ms. Trump,” states her succinct notice appealing Judge Arthur Engoron’s Oct. 27 bench ruling and Oct. 30 scheduling order, which requires her to comply with a subpoena.
The appeal is primarily composed of a transcript from the hearing last month in which Ivanka Trump’s attorneys made their case to Engoron — and, where he ultimately sided with the New York attorney general’s office — despite the fact that she is no longer a party in the case.
The lawsuit, filed last year by New York Attorney General Letitia James’s (D) office, accuses the Trump family business of falsely inflating and deflating the value of its assets to receive lower taxes and better insurance coverage.
Ivanka Trump was dismissed from the case involving the former president, the Trump Organization and two of her brothers in June, after a New York appeals court ruled that the claims against her were barred by the state’s statute of limitations.
During last week’s hearing over Ivanka Trump’s protestations and in court filings, her attorney argued that compelling her to testify is outside of James’s jurisdiction and suggested that the attorney general’s office is attempting to “force her back into this case.”
“Ms. Trump is not a party in this action. Nor is Ms. Trump a New York resident,” her lawyers wrote in court filings. “It is black-letter law that, given those two facts, Ms. Trump is beyond the jurisdiction of this Court.”
Engoron disagreed with that assessment, finding that Ivanka Trump has “clearly availed herself of the privilege of doing business in New York.”
Ivanka Trump is asking New York’s appellate division to reconsider her jurisdiction argument in addition to several other arguments, including whether her subpoena was rightly issued.
She is scheduled to take the stand Nov. 8, though the appeal may delay her testimony.
Ivanka Trump appeals judge’s order to testify in New York fraud trial
Former President Trump’s daughter, Ivanka Trump, on Wednesday appealed a judge’s order that she must testify in her father’s ongoing fraud trial in New York. “This appeal is taken…
thehill.com
DIY-HP-LED
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They will squirm, but they aren't fooling the judge, he makes the call and is no fool. Donald took back control on the 15th or Jan 2021 because he knew he lost the election and was making moves to do it before then. The judge should have an old-fashioned adding machine and start totaling up as the trial goes along. I'm thinking in the $600 million plus range and we might know before December at this pace."But I am just a girl."
Ivanka Trump appeals judge’s order to testify in New York fraud trial
Former President Trump’s daughter, Ivanka Trump, on Wednesday appealed a judge’s order that she must testify in her father’s ongoing fraud trial in New York.
“This appeal is taken from each and every part of the order insofar as it applies to Ms. Trump,” states her succinct notice appealing Judge Arthur Engoron’s Oct. 27 bench ruling and Oct. 30 scheduling order, which requires her to comply with a subpoena.
The appeal is primarily composed of a transcript from the hearing last month in which Ivanka Trump’s attorneys made their case to Engoron — and, where he ultimately sided with the New York attorney general’s office — despite the fact that she is no longer a party in the case.
The lawsuit, filed last year by New York Attorney General Letitia James’s (D) office, accuses the Trump family business of falsely inflating and deflating the value of its assets to receive lower taxes and better insurance coverage.
Ivanka Trump was dismissed from the case involving the former president, the Trump Organization and two of her brothers in June, after a New York appeals court ruled that the claims against her were barred by the state’s statute of limitations.
During last week’s hearing over Ivanka Trump’s protestations and in court filings, her attorney argued that compelling her to testify is outside of James’s jurisdiction and suggested that the attorney general’s office is attempting to “force her back into this case.”
“Ms. Trump is not a party in this action. Nor is Ms. Trump a New York resident,” her lawyers wrote in court filings. “It is black-letter law that, given those two facts, Ms. Trump is beyond the jurisdiction of this Court.”
Engoron disagreed with that assessment, finding that Ivanka Trump has “clearly availed herself of the privilege of doing business in New York.”
Ivanka Trump is asking New York’s appellate division to reconsider her jurisdiction argument in addition to several other arguments, including whether her subpoena was rightly issued.
She is scheduled to take the stand Nov. 8, though the appeal may delay her testimony.
Ivanka Trump appeals judge’s order to testify in New York fraud trial
Former President Trump’s daughter, Ivanka Trump, on Wednesday appealed a judge’s order that she must testify in her father’s ongoing fraud trial in New York. “This appeal is taken…
printer
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"Financial Statement?" "Never met the guy."
Trump’s sons distance themselves from financial statements in New York fraud trial testimony
In back-to-back testimonies Thursday, former President Trump’s two adult sons distanced themselves from Trump Organization financial statements key to the New York attorney general’s case against their family business.
Both Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump denied any involvement in their father’s financial statements, suggesting instead they relied on accountants and other experts to make sure the numbers were correct.
The Trump Organization’s statements of financial condition — which detail the value of its various assets and were sent to banks and insurers to secure loans and deals — are at the heart of the attorney general’s lawsuit, which claims the Trump Organization falsely inflated and deflated the value of its assets to receive lower taxes and better insurance coverage.
Trump’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., testified Wednesday that he signed off on his father’s financial statements as an executive vice president of the Trump Organization and trustee of the trust that held Trump’s assets while he was president. However, he said he counted on the work of accountants and executives like then-Chief Financial Officer Allen Weisselberg to be correct.
“As a trustee, I have an obligation to listen [to] those who are expert — who have an expertise of these things,” Donald Trump Jr. said, The Associated Press reported.
Eric Trump, the former president’s second son, also denied involvement, testifying that he “never had anything to do with the statement of financial condition.”
But state lawyer Andrew Amer later pointed to a 2013 email Eric Trump received from another company executive asking for information needed to fill out Trump’s financial statement, according to The Associated Press.
“So you did know about your father’s annual financial statement as of August 2013?” Amer asked.
“It appears that way,” Eric Trump said.
Trump’s legal team has so far attempted to shift the blame for the statements’ skewed numbers from the former president and his family onto the accountants who calculated them. Ex-Trump accountant Donald Bender testified under cross-examination for nearly a full week at the start of the trial, where Trump’s lawyers sought to portray him as negligent.
During an argument over questions Trump’s lawyers were asking Bender during the trial’s first week, Judge Arthur Engoron said that the accountant “is not on trial here.”
“I would disagree with that,” said Chris Kise, Trump’s attorney.
“His thoroughness, that he got paid millions a year to do — he was a [certified public accountant]. He has certain responsibilities … He seems to recall only what the government wants him to recall,” Kise continued.
“We need to be allowed to parse the evidence,” he said.
“You’re not allowed to waste time,” Engoran replied. “That is what this is becoming.”
Before the trial even began, Engoron found that Trump, the Trump Organization and Trump’s sons were liable for fraud after ruling that the New York attorney general’s office had proved the crux of its case.
The decision stripped some of Trump’s business licenses and put at risk some of his famed properties, though an appeals court halted the cancellation of the business licenses until after it hears his case.
The trial will determine how much money the defendants owe as a penalty and could establish whether any one defendant was more to blame than another for the fraud.
On Wednesday, an expert witness hired by the New York attorney general’s office testified that the Trump Organization’s ballooned financial statements may have cost banks more than $168 million in interest.
New York Attorney General Letitia James (D) has asked for $250 million in penalties and a ban on Trump and his children serving as officers or directors of New York companies.
Trump is expected to testify in the sprawling fraud trial next week.
thehill.com
Trump’s sons distance themselves from financial statements in New York fraud trial testimony
In back-to-back testimonies Thursday, former President Trump’s two adult sons distanced themselves from Trump Organization financial statements key to the New York attorney general’s case against their family business.
Both Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump denied any involvement in their father’s financial statements, suggesting instead they relied on accountants and other experts to make sure the numbers were correct.
The Trump Organization’s statements of financial condition — which detail the value of its various assets and were sent to banks and insurers to secure loans and deals — are at the heart of the attorney general’s lawsuit, which claims the Trump Organization falsely inflated and deflated the value of its assets to receive lower taxes and better insurance coverage.
Trump’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., testified Wednesday that he signed off on his father’s financial statements as an executive vice president of the Trump Organization and trustee of the trust that held Trump’s assets while he was president. However, he said he counted on the work of accountants and executives like then-Chief Financial Officer Allen Weisselberg to be correct.
“As a trustee, I have an obligation to listen [to] those who are expert — who have an expertise of these things,” Donald Trump Jr. said, The Associated Press reported.
Eric Trump, the former president’s second son, also denied involvement, testifying that he “never had anything to do with the statement of financial condition.”
But state lawyer Andrew Amer later pointed to a 2013 email Eric Trump received from another company executive asking for information needed to fill out Trump’s financial statement, according to The Associated Press.
“So you did know about your father’s annual financial statement as of August 2013?” Amer asked.
“It appears that way,” Eric Trump said.
Trump’s legal team has so far attempted to shift the blame for the statements’ skewed numbers from the former president and his family onto the accountants who calculated them. Ex-Trump accountant Donald Bender testified under cross-examination for nearly a full week at the start of the trial, where Trump’s lawyers sought to portray him as negligent.
During an argument over questions Trump’s lawyers were asking Bender during the trial’s first week, Judge Arthur Engoron said that the accountant “is not on trial here.”
“I would disagree with that,” said Chris Kise, Trump’s attorney.
“His thoroughness, that he got paid millions a year to do — he was a [certified public accountant]. He has certain responsibilities … He seems to recall only what the government wants him to recall,” Kise continued.
“We need to be allowed to parse the evidence,” he said.
“You’re not allowed to waste time,” Engoran replied. “That is what this is becoming.”
Before the trial even began, Engoron found that Trump, the Trump Organization and Trump’s sons were liable for fraud after ruling that the New York attorney general’s office had proved the crux of its case.
The decision stripped some of Trump’s business licenses and put at risk some of his famed properties, though an appeals court halted the cancellation of the business licenses until after it hears his case.
The trial will determine how much money the defendants owe as a penalty and could establish whether any one defendant was more to blame than another for the fraud.
On Wednesday, an expert witness hired by the New York attorney general’s office testified that the Trump Organization’s ballooned financial statements may have cost banks more than $168 million in interest.
New York Attorney General Letitia James (D) has asked for $250 million in penalties and a ban on Trump and his children serving as officers or directors of New York companies.
Trump is expected to testify in the sprawling fraud trial next week.
Trump’s sons distance themselves from financial statements in New York fraud trial testimony
In back-to-back testimonies Thursday, former President Trump’s two adult sons distanced themselves from Trump Organization financial statements key to the New York attorney general’s case against t…
thehill.com
topcat
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Oh, think of the children! The forty plus year old children. Well, except for "gums", who's 39, testifying today.
'Leave my children alone': Trump hits judge over family testimony (usatoday.com)
'Leave my children alone': Trump hits judge over family testimony (usatoday.com)
DIY-HP-LED
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They are preparing the legal chopping block for the turkey! Ready to go on March 04. Disqualification trials are underway in several states with one at the state supreme court level. Donald is in deep trouble in NY and we should see some kind of report from the receiver who has control of Trump's properties before they sell them off to the highest bidder and pay off creditors before taking what's leftover.
The way I see it his presidential bid has several problems, first being disqualified from running, secondly being a convicted felon in prison and on trial in one place or another, right up to and beyond election day and finally being broke after NY cleans him out and his mounting legal bills take the rest. If he is not disqualified, he will likely win the GOP nomination and could be in a federal cell by convention day, with a state conviction and sentence on top of that by election day. The only real reason the others are staying in the GOP presidential race is that they think Trump will be disqualified, and it will open things up, they would never say it and would howl over it but would take advantage of it. With his led there is little reason to stay in the race since he is likely to win the nomination from inside a cell.
The way I see it his presidential bid has several problems, first being disqualified from running, secondly being a convicted felon in prison and on trial in one place or another, right up to and beyond election day and finally being broke after NY cleans him out and his mounting legal bills take the rest. If he is not disqualified, he will likely win the GOP nomination and could be in a federal cell by convention day, with a state conviction and sentence on top of that by election day. The only real reason the others are staying in the GOP presidential race is that they think Trump will be disqualified, and it will open things up, they would never say it and would howl over it but would take advantage of it. With his led there is little reason to stay in the race since he is likely to win the nomination from inside a cell.
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Back in the day it was easy for the rich kids to pay a smart student to write their papers and even take their examinations in the large examination rooms. I'm pretty sure that is how Trump got most of his higher education and his kids too, if they have lots of money, and know they never will have to actually work for a living some tend to get that way.
DIY-HP-LED
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The private side of Deutsche bank was where the Russian money was...
DIY-HP-LED
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Jack and Georgia turned the Florida secret documents case into a side show, and he will appear in her court as a convicted felon in custody. Jack can take his time and take care of business or get rid of her. She will end up sentencing Trump, being removed from the case or ruining her career, she already ruined her reputation. If the democrats win in 2024, she might even be opening herself up to impeachment or an impeachment investigation.
Judge Cannon's pro-Trump bias shines though in latest ruling; discusses postponing documents trial.
On the same day, the two federal judges presiding over former president Donald Trump's criminal cases issued orders resolving some basic legal issues. Judge Tanya Chutkan's 5-page order is short, professional, direct and to the point. But Trump-appointed Judge Aileen Cannon's 15-page order is filled with gratuitous criticism of one party to the case: Special Counsel Jack Smith.
This video reviews Judge Cannon's order and the repeated, gratuitous - and even snarky - criticism of Special Counsel's Office. Judge Cannon's impartiality continues to be in question, and there is added reason for prosecutors to consider filing a motion to recuse her from presiding over the prosecution of the very person who appointed her to the federal bench.
Judge Cannon's pro-Trump bias shines though in latest ruling; discusses postponing documents trial.
On the same day, the two federal judges presiding over former president Donald Trump's criminal cases issued orders resolving some basic legal issues. Judge Tanya Chutkan's 5-page order is short, professional, direct and to the point. But Trump-appointed Judge Aileen Cannon's 15-page order is filled with gratuitous criticism of one party to the case: Special Counsel Jack Smith.
This video reviews Judge Cannon's order and the repeated, gratuitous - and even snarky - criticism of Special Counsel's Office. Judge Cannon's impartiality continues to be in question, and there is added reason for prosecutors to consider filing a motion to recuse her from presiding over the prosecution of the very person who appointed her to the federal bench.
topcat
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He learned that trick at the Whoreton School, but nothing about Generally Accepted Accounting Principles.
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DIY-HP-LED
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The judge ordered Trump to disclose his private equity partners, something Trump was reluctant to do, I haven't heard if he complied yet. The receiver has control of everything now though and is going through it all for when the judge comes up with a dollar amount. The receiver should issue some kind of report to the judge at some point, and it should be public. I've heard the taxes and penalties could be north of $600 million, $250 million was just the starting point and a lot depends on how far back they can go.
topcat
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Cohen suggests it might go as high as $750 million.
DIY-HP-LED
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Donald is ticking off all the boxes for the high end and ticking off the judge who makes the call too!